spark plugs = 20HP?

[95GSTurboooo]

Too good to be true? or just insane?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2458388302

[Boost Fed]

Yeah the info on the 91 talon could be true - if they include the fact that the spark plugs they replaced also had 131k miles and two of them were missing the electrode tip (whatever its called)

[evoir]

:rolleyes:

[turboawdtsi]

+59 hp on a Civic? You barely get that much of a bump in power supercharging the damn thing.

[95GSTurboooo]

tell me about it

[Boost Fed]

Originally posted by turboawdtsi
+59 hp on a Civic? You barely get that much of a bump in power supercharging the damn thing.

they also forgot to mention that the first dyno run of the civic was w/ no spark plugs and the second was w/ them...:D

[bastard1g]

Originally posted by turboawdtsi
+59 hp on a Civic? You barely get that much of a bump in power supercharging the damn thing.


dont stock civics come with 59whp? .......:D

[karnsatron]

Gotta love all these ebay miracles.. :rolleyes: If you were to build a car with just ebay wonders I expect you'd have somewhere around 1278 whp out of a 1.3 L metro engine..:D

[talon167]

Sure, it's true.

1) You take the old plugs out.
2) You dyno your car and get a 0 hp rating
3) You put in those plugs
4) Dyno again....wow, look at that gain!
:P









:rolleyes:

[T3/T4GSt]

I don't buy it even though I have seen other graphs showing more realistic +4 HP gain on the plugs.

This could be true if the plugs taken out were fouled up or otherwise not in perfect working condition. You would get the same results with a set of new NGK copper plugs. Just knowing the basics of how a 4 stroke engine works you would know the plugs play a huge role in the process. I would never spend $48 on plugs.

[diambo4life]

Originally posted by T3/T4GSt
I don't buy it even though I have seen other graphs showing more realistic +4 HP gain on the plugs.



I have seen graphs of HKS plugs making close to 20HP gain in some parts of the power curve. That was on a 1200HP Skyline though.:D :D

[MadWax]

Spark plugs can help to make horsepower, a stock AC Delco Versus some type of platinum V-groove or those split fire ones is deffinatley gonna show a little difference, but no where near this guys claims. They also forgot to add that a plug can matter most when being used in an insane motor build that will get heavily quenched with gas and needs to burn large amounts of fuel fast and hot, but that points back to the ignition system used.....

[ippkiss]

I have these plugs in my 95. I didn't buy them for the gimic bull shit on ebay, I bought them becuse they are suposta last longer than the 10,000 or so miles copper ngk's last, and I wanted to give them a try. I put them on at the same time as magnecore plug wires and never felt a differnce, but my old plugs were still looking good when they came out... These plugs were in my car when I did 28.5 mpg in my 130,000 mi awd a/t. thats got to count for somthing :D

[RuBiCaNT99GSX]

Originally posted by ippkiss
I have these plugs in my 95. I didn't buy them for the gimic bull shit on ebay, I bought them becuse they are suposta last longer than the 10,000 or so miles copper ngk's last, and I wanted to give them a try. I put them on at the same time as magnecore plug wires and never felt a differnce, but my old plugs were still looking good when they came out... These plugs were in my car when I did 28.5 mpg in my 130,000 mi awd a/t. thats got to count for somthing :D

28.5 MPG because you drive like a pussy, you coaster!!...:eek: :D

[ippkiss]

Originally posted by RuBiCaNT99GSX
28.5 MPG because you drive like a pussy, you coaster!!...:eek: :D

Bitch! I'll have you know that was on my trip down to St. George last year to test drive that Syclone. I babyed it onto the freeway, set the cruise at 71 and let it go. Figured I had to make up for what I was going to be doing later. Which turned out to be running into some kids in a 97+ TSi AWD that I put a couple busses on from 70-110, then drifiting in the Syclone, + some awd launches. I rember Nicole saying afterwards that she was thinking "you brought me all the way down her to look at that" when we pulled up, but then after we started driving, and I went sideways through an intersection with all 4 tires spinning, she was like "god damn, thats the fastest truck i've ever been in." Pussy driver my ass!

[cbilmer]

Bahahaha!



No way plugs will give you 20hp!!! Not as gains anyway, maybe as recovery of lost hp or by allowing you to run higher boost or something with colder plugs.

I like my Iridium plugs, they run great but no REAL differences over coppers that I have noticed other than more consistancy.

[superdavesgst]

those plugs are crap, had a set of denso iridiums in my car melted a piston, yeah they work, they are good if your stock or close to it, they burn way the hell to hot in a centrally located area, i stick to ngk 1128's work great, never have a problem.

[Boost Fed]

Yeah you know for CERTAIN your spark plug melted your cylindar?? I bet... :rolleyes:

[ippkiss]

Originally posted by Boost Fed
Yeah you know for CERTAIN your spark plug melted your cylindar?? I bet... :rolleyes:

Glad I'm not the only one that was thinking this... :)

[cbilmer]

They wouldn't sell them if they melted pistons! Please, give me a break! They have temperature values just as any other plug on the market! You want colder, get a plug one step colder. But don't tell me you melted a piston because of iridium plugs!

The NGK Iridium IXs i have work great.... as they have for thousands of others!

[Taboo]

What's "centrally located area"? :dunno:

[superdavesgst]

yup, either that or an rc injector was bad, not sure, but those plugs showed no dif. on the dyno @ 20psi, with cams, with 8.8 comp. with head work yadda yadda yadda, the motor was bad ass til those or the combo ruined it, loved to spin the tires at 80mph, the new motors not as radical, changed the injectors the the hrc 625s , same plugs, hell they were expensive, with the ross racing cer. coated pistons, they seemed to run lean, the damn plugs were doing it again , so i ran a set of ngk 1128's no problems, im sure those plugs would be nice in a civic, or some crap of that nature, but if your running 20 psi and high comp. for that application dont use those plugs. comp is unknown now, the heads been milled 3 times , block decked once.
LATERS:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[diambo4life]

Originally posted by superdavesgst
yup, either that or an rc injector was bad, not sure,


So you are now telling us that you are not really sure that in deed those plugs caused the "melted piston" incident?:dunno:


I guess I'm glad we didn't take your word for it.:rolleyes:

[Boost Fed]

Originally posted by diambo4life
So you are now telling us that you are not really sure that in deed those plugs caused the "melted piston" incident?:dunno:


I guess I'm glad we didn't take your word for it.:rolleyes:

And I'm sure no where in the scenario did tuning skill come into play. :D

Cuz you know, with RC flow testing their injectors I'm sure they send out bad ones all the time.... (I'm under the impression the flow all their injectors. Correct me if I am wrong on this.)

[Agent11br]

Cuz you know, with RC flow testing their injectors I'm sure they send out bad ones all the time....

LMFAO:P

[Taboo]

I still want to learn more about the "centrally located area". :mad: :mad: :mad:

[turboawdtsi]

EVERY BID PLACED IS FOR A FULL SET OF PLUGS FOR YOUR CAR. IF YOUR CAR IS A (See Below)

4 Cylinder, A Single Bid Gets You 4 DENSO Iridium Plugs

6 Cylinder, A Single Bid Gets You 6 DENSO Iridium Plugs

8 Cylinder, A Single Bid Gets You 8 DENSO Iridium Plugs

Any V-8s that use the same plug as DSMs? You could bid a single time, get 8, and have a spare set! BRILLIANT!

[superdavesgst]

have you ever seen the plugs, the electrode is iridium i guess anyways its small as hell, as for the injectors, rc's duh. i bought a set, nah i cant read the damn spec's on the injectors, people mess up, its nature, what if the employee just didnt care that day. i gave my advice, recommended ngk's , even on the NT 420a motor they made no differance, now we put a set in a 240sx, it made a differance. why i dunno, dont ask me stupid questons, just waste your money or not. buy a set, whatever my feelings will be sooo hurt.
laters

[Boost Fed]

Originally posted by superdavesgst
have you ever seen the plugs, the electrode is iridium i guess anyways its small as hell, as for the injectors, rc's duh. i bought a set, nah i cant read the damn spec's on the injectors, people mess up, its nature, what if the employee just didnt care that day. i gave my advice, recommended ngk's , even on the NT 420a motor they made no differance, now we put a set in a 240sx, it made a differance. why i dunno, dont ask me stupid questons, just waste your money or not. buy a set, whatever my feelings will be sooo hurt.
laters

Wow so now we know that... iridium plugs have an iridium electrod, which, by the way, hold on, you won't believe this - is small.

We also had it confirmed that he DOES have rc's.... duh.

No he can't read the specs ON the injectors - this has to do w/ what:confused:

He could be right, when they were testing the injectors at RC some employee that doesn't know how to do his job, might have gotten pissed about who knows what (we all have jobs- i'm sure we can relate). Anyway, this employee sees one injector NOT flowing and says... ahh what the hell... I 'll screw someone elses day over too. Is this how you do your job?? Pissed off or not I still try to NEVER ruin anyone elses' day on purpose.

We know they made no difference on a 420a engine but did on a 240sx engine. So .... who knows, they may make a difference on a 4g63. What kinda difference did they make? I mean, did the car gain power? Did it go from not running at all, to now running? What exactly does 'difference' constitute??

Ohh we got this guy's advice... NGK's are better, although why he thinks so... IDK... Oh thats right, the iridiums blew up his motor.

Ohh and sorry to ask what exactly is different about the 240sx... That probably falls under the category of a "stupid question," which he doesn't want to be asked.

Ohh and Taboo... Still no info for you on that "centrally located area." Darn, I was looking for some new technical info to read. And a chance to see Taboo learn something new :D (That would be a first for my eyes....)

Man I hate posts that contribute nothing to the discussion besides useless information that isn't relevant, and then provides 'advice' based on this ever so helpful info.

Anyway man, sorry to rip you apart. Good luck on your next engine. I hope the NGKs have a bigger electrode so as to not be so 'centrally located.'

[superdavesgst]

hey jack ass buy a fuckin set and see where they burn , then youll know. motors respond differently. hence 240.

[outbost]

Actually, they don't burn, they spark. That's why they are called spark plugs. (couldn't resist myself) :angel:

[dsm6yrs]

Originally posted by 95GSTurboooo
Too good to be true? or just insane?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2458388302
I vote "insane.":D

[T3/T4GSt]

For that price if you have a 1G you could get a set of NGK plug wires and some BPR plugs.

[95GSTurboooo]

INSANE