New site design or old one?

[ekool]

Let us know if you like the new site design, or if you prefer the old one better.

[noreaga0221]

I like the old style and get rid of the ads.

[ekool]

I like the old style and get rid of the ads.

Unfortunately, that's how we pay the bills. It comes down to:

No ads, no DSMtalk

Ads + DSMtalk

[TurboGST97]

Well i reather have adds and had dsmtalk then not to have nothing at all

[ekool]

Well i reather have adds and had dsmtalk then not to have nothing at all

My thoughts exactly ;)

[Irrational]

I like the old sight but I dont hate on the ad's ibill's must get payed.

[SpoolingWOT]

I liked the old site better, but I will get used to this new one - it seems pretty well thought out and set up.

[ekool]

For those of you who have voted (or will vote) that you like the old site better, can you give me specifics so perhaps we can improve this skin. The old one cant come back, because the version of software we are running is totally different.

If you could, list the things about the old skin that you liked and missed, etc. and the things about the new skin that you dont like (besides the ads, of course)


For now, I'm heading to bed.

[diambo4life]

We need more color. I was just used to seeing alot of "blue" in the old setup. It was unmistakable that I was on DSMTalk. Now, it feels like I am just surfing on any other board. I am sure I would get over it, but spice up the background color a little bit - if you have been on LS1Tech you will know what I'm talking about. I love the new features but appearance makes a lasting impression. I am sure I will think of something else. :)

I am not hating on the ads since I understand the revenue helps keeping the place up and maintaining it. It was part of the reason I was a repeat donating member on the old Talk.

[SpoolingWOT]

I liked the grey/blue color scheme of the boards of old. Where the color sort of 'filled' in the empty spaces. Makes the forums look "finished". I am also thankful for all the effort that goes into maintaining these forums......

[GOTLAUNCH?]

It still has the same good ole forum rooms which I'm very happy for i.e. PARTS REVIEW ONLY. I love that section. Helps me decide on what to buy. Great job with bringing back dsmtalk.

[Generation X]

I love the new version. I'm just happy it's up and running again. There is a wealth of knowledge on here, and I thought it was gone forever. Great job guy's

[anconover]

i liked the old one. more color, felt more customized. And just seemed like things were easier to see/find at quick glance but im sure ill get use to this.

[Spyder1gdsm]

I like the new layout, besides, It can't be as bad as that purplish blue that we used to have before the board was redone in blue and black.

[Van]

I like some of the old and some of the new. It's a mixed bag, the ads do suck and are intrusive, (it's kind of like lame ass AOL) but they have a known function that is important.

Classified ads (unless strictly controlled) and games are things that will attract people who don't want to talk cars or seriously contribute to this community. That's very bad. DSMtalk was what it was because of the people that were there for those reasons.

Change is good, as long as it produces quality information and contributing members. I will be surprised if any of the changes implemented will produce either.

Guess we'll see soon enough if the changes made induce good results or have people running back to lesser forums John. It would suck if the core membership bailed on you because you made some bad operating decisions that didn't involve the core moderating team's vote that personified what DSMtalk really was.

Probably should rename this place DSMtalk II.

[ekool]

Only time will tell I guess, but there's no way to know until you give it a try. Nothing is set in stone so we'll be able to make changes and adapt with what the majority of the userbase wants.

I consider myself a pretty hard core automobile fan, but a nice change of pace every now and again is always welcome (arcade) etc.

[anconover]

could be a good change. But im also not too big on the classifieds ads, or the addition of the 3si and evo forums (banner says 'Forums dedicated to the eclipse, talon and laser vehicles'). but its true, only time will tell.

[LatDSM]

Somehow this version seems hard to view and/or grasp.

New and read posts seem to blend together. The distinctive yellow on blue made the old version easier to see. Also the layout somehow was easier.

Also...I guess I'm just being stupid...but where is the "mark as read" button?

Navigation should be at top and bottom of the threads (just above the first and last post, ar at least some way to get back to the main index and/or the section where the thread is located in.

[ekool]

could be a good change. But im also not too big on the classifieds ads, or the addition of the 3si and evo forums (banner says 'Forums dedicated to the eclipse, talon and laser vehicles'). but its true, only time will tell.

Well, definetly the DSM represents all Mitsubishi cars in the US... I think we can find it in our hearts to have a small section for the 3/S and Evo, just like we have room for the Lounge and other sections that arent specifically Eclipse/Talon/Laser related.

Sure, we're dedciated to that, but there's always room for close family?

[ekool]

Somehow this version seems hard to view and/or grasp.

New and read posts seem to blend together. The distinctive yellow on blue made the old version easier to see. Also the layout somehow was easier.

Also...I guess I'm just being stupid...but where is the "mark as read" button?

Navigation should be at top and bottom of the threads (just above the first and last post, ar at least some way to get back to the main index and/or the section where the thread is located in.

Threads are marked as read by default when you visit them.

You can use this "text" at the top to jump around:

DSM Forums > DSM Talk News & Polls > DSM talk Polls
Reload this Page New site design or old one?

The text are hyperlinks to their respective sections.

There is a forum "Jump" menu at the bottom of the thread as well.

[anconover]

i just assume a DSM board be dedicated to strictly that. i dunno. i also noticed the arcade i dont care for. I think it just feels a little too much like its trying to become the 'happening place with games and tons of forums'. Just worried might bring in too many of the wrong people and create a forum thats next to impossible to weed out the terrible, mis-informed, ridiculous posts.

[ekool]

i just assume a DSM board be dedicated to strictly that. i dunno. i also noticed the arcade i dont care for. I think it just feels a little too much like its trying to become the 'happening place with games and tons of forums'. Just worried might bring in too many of the wrong people and create a forum thats next to impossible to weed out the terrible, mis-informed, ridiculous posts.

The moderator team is still dedcated to keeping that from happening. We are discussing this now in the admin section as we speak.

[LatDSM]

Threads are marked as read by default when you visit them.

You can use this "text" at the top to jump around:

DSM Forums > DSM Talk News & Polls > DSM talk Polls
Reload this Page New site design or old one?

The text are hyperlinks to their respective sections.

There is a forum "Jump" menu at the bottom of the thread as well.

1) I understand that they are marked read when visited. But sometimes I just don't want to visit every thread but look through their subjects and mark as read without looking into each thread.

2) I've seen the links on top...however they seem detached from the thread. And navigation at the bottom (same as on top) would make navigation more convenient, as the bottom is where you normally end up after reading a thread....and thats when you want to move on....unleass you decide to reply to something...

just my 2 cents

[ekool]

You can mark all posts in any individual forum read, but you cant mark individual threads as read unless you visit them.

The above option is under the "Thread Tools" menu. There are different functions available depending on if you are inside a thread, or a forum.

[LatDSM]

You can mark all posts in any individual forum read, but you cant mark individual threads as read unless you visit them.

The above option is under the "Thread Tools" menu. There are different functions available depending on if you are inside a thread, or a forum.

oh...ok...found it...and also the mark forums read button...as said earlier...things just seem harder to find unless you know where to look for stuff. :cool:

anyway...if I might add just one more suggestion....I would reshufle the head something like this because in my mind this would make navigation easier:

http://www.dsmclub.lv/e107_plugins/kig_menu/_imagefiles/dsmtalk.jpg

[LatDSM]

thaat was strange...

http://www.dsmclub.lv/e107_plugins/kig_menu/_imagefiles/dsmtalk.jpg

[lithium]

PMs are hard to navigate in the control panel - moving from sentbox to inbox etc etc.

[AWD Terror]

I think some of the issues we're seeing are more related to the VB3 upgrade than anything we've missed. A lot of things changed and I know personally I'm still adjusting to the layout even though I've been on Vb3 boards for months. *shrug* Give yourself time to find things and then pipe up about something you think is missing or that you wish you had. :)

As for the ads it's not like we didn't have ads before? :confused: I expect we'll have different/more sponsors in the future, which allows us to have a smooth running board and extra features. The "old" non-profit philsophy served us well but I think we all know running a large server is not free, and ads help keep the doors open. :cool:

[Cyndi]

new one, but it doesnt matter as long as its back Im happy

[talon94es]

Personally the very nice looking header up top looks great! I also like the nice little transparent Mitus logos when logging in and in this quick reply field. Another perk was the Welcome Back Ballon!! w00t.. Lets party Mo_Fo's!!

[dsm91tsi]

I like it..its easier on the eyes of us older people..heheheh

[dsmbob]

Ecool

Love the site's new look, and hey are you using a new name too. :)

[dsmbob]

Where is the logo's that were featured on the old page. Should put them back in on the top and also add them back on the smiley's list too.

[COPPER95]

I think the new sites great and its good just to see it back! A pic gallary would be cool too

[Under Pressure]

For those of you who have voted (or will vote) that you like the old site better, can you give me specifics so perhaps we can improve this skin. The old one cant come back, because the version of software we are running is totally different.

If you could, list the things about the old skin that you liked and missed, etc. and the things about the new skin that you dont like (besides the ads, of course)


For now, I'm heading to bed.

Can you make more contrast on those little boxes on the left of the forum's page that let you know wether someone posted in that specific forum since last time you were on?

[Robster]

I'd say which one I like better, but it's been so damn long I don't remember... ha. I'm just glad it's back up.

[PropXprt]

Good job on the site. Sure am glad it didn't go to internet graveyard.

[Wanted:SWGSXAWD]

Glad the forums are back :) . I had one question though, is there any way to view this site for those of us in the military who have to deal with strict military firewalls? On DSMtuners if I change the .com to .net, I can view their forums, thanks, and glad to see the site's working again.

[cwbroncos]

Comparing the two sites, to me the old one looked more "professional". Like everybody said the colors just seem to fill in everything better. But this is still a great site and all that really matters is the content. I missed it :o

[Big Bald]

I like it the new site. I don't mind the ads either as long as they are DSM related.

[9TSiAwD3]

The site is back up, im happy :D

[gsxaddict]

i miss the tech articles that were posted in the old front page but it doesnt
matter as long as the sites backup im happee :D

[GODspeed1320]

I liked the grey/blue color scheme of the boards of old. Where the color sort of 'filled' in the empty spaces. Makes the forums look "finished". I am also thankful for all the effort that goes into maintaining these forums......

Yes. We need more color scheme. But not to bash on this one. I'm sure you spent alot of time and effort on the new schematics. And i also thankyou for the work you guys put into this. the dsm cars dont make people into machanics all by themselves...Asking questions on this web site is what prevents poeple from scrwing up their cars. It does look proffesional though. Yet a little bit of color couldn't hurt. :)

[Agent11br]

IMO, the "current thread list" or whatever its called should be off to the right hand side and up towards to the top of the page just like the old setup. It should also NOT include threads from, for example, the "for sale sections" or lounge. I loved being able to buzz onto Talk and instantly see what was actually being discussed in the forums that had relevancy to owning a dsm.

Thats not to say that the arcade, for sale/trade/wanted, pics, lounge etc. are not good reads, I just would rather be able to instantly see what part review or electronics problem is being discussed vs. what new video game is best or what someone is trying to sell.

I also miss the tech article section and feel that it could have been exploited a lot more than the old talk with new articles every week.

To me, I am stoked that the site is backup, but am hoping that the core of what made the old site badass (which was REAL information that made sense and was good to read and help others with, minus the bickering you see on tuners) doesnt fade away in this new enviroment that kind of seems all over the place.

[ekool]

IMO, the "current thread list" or whatever its called should be off to the right hand side and up towards to the top of the page just like the old setup. It should also NOT include threads from, for example, the "for sale sections" or lounge. I loved being able to buzz onto Talk and instantly see what was actually being discussed in the forums that had relevancy to owning a dsm.

Unfortunately the software does not allow us to exclude specific forums. However, the 'Active Topics' link in the navbar may provide what you like.


I also miss the tech article section and feel that it could have been exploited a lot more than the old talk with new articles every week.


This requires people to contribute tech articles. I'd be happy to add one if you can send one in.

[Batman]

The site is back up, im happy :D


agreed with him.

[midlyfcrysis]

I think the ads are fine. much better than popups.

[Thebullfrog]

I REALLY miss the subscribe to thread option. It was so much easier getting an e-mail when someone added to a topic your interested in instead of allways having to search all your topics to find out. Besides I keep forgetting the titles of the threads i'm involved in and have to search around untill i find it again. PLEASE bring this option back. If it is still there, just tell me where it's at and feel free to smack me on the head.

[ekool]

The option is there, the default mode you can set from your control panel and default to 'subscribe to threads' -- also, you can click on "Quick Links" and click on "subscribed threads" to see a list.

[Thebullfrog]

Cool, thanx.

[Johns_92_Laser]

no ads, no dsm talk, priceless

[anconover]

is it just me or are there no more signatures?

[outofideas327]

Signatures have been disabled for the time being because people couldn't seem to follow the simple rules for having a sig.

[anconover]

thats retarded. set it up to only allow so big of a signature and let it be.

[ekool]

thats retarded. set it up to only allow so big of a signature and let it be.


Holy crap, why didnt we think of that?

Unfortunately, its not nearly as easy as you make it out to sound, and thus, the reason why it hasnt been done. That's easy to do for text, but impossible to do with images, which are the problem.

[mehgahdsm]

Holy crap, why didnt we think of that?

Unfortunately, its not nearly as easy as you make it out to sound, and thus, the reason why it hasnt been done. That's easy to do for text, but impossible to do with images, which are the problem.

actually if you search the http://www.vbulletin.org forums, you might find the code you need to limit sig sizes. my apologies if you already tried that.

to address this thread though, I like the look and setup of the site and I've found it extremely helpful since I got my 1g a few months ago. keep up the good work.

-Jody

[Team Xplizit]

well i voted that i like the new one but the color sux i like darker colors kuz light blue n white to me arent colors. like my car s paint job for instance black and hott pink haah those are colors.

[Team Xplizit]

just wondering if you like dsmturners? having all the ads and sponsors does more then just pays the bills. that site made them milllions, is it the same in this case? be honest haaha are you makin a lil xtra on the side? its alright its how i make my money. but it dont matter im here for the info not to question you, i was just curious.

[suicidal2af]

just wondering if you like dsmturners? having all the ads and sponsors does more then just pays the bills. that site made them milllions, is it the same in this case? be honest haaha are you makin a lil xtra on the side? its alright its how i make my money. but it dont matter im here for the info not to question you, i was just curious.

Millions? Hardly. I'd be surprised if luda is even breaking even on that site.

[destruckeclipse]

Millions? Hardly. I'd be surprised if luda is even breaking even on that site.
Yes, with the size of that site server bills must be huge, I mean they are trying to get money in so many ways its not even funny, doubtful they are making millions.

As for the design, I don't remember the old one, and this one doesn't appeal at all to me. I definitaly think it needs a revamp, but who am I to complain, I'm just a newbie here.

[Liggy11]

I like this site.

[boost_or_bust]

its very clean looking. nice work

[cobrajetguy]

I like the new one, good job.

[turboneal]

the ads not only help keep the site's bills paid, they can be a welcome asset. especially if you are from a small town with NO tuner shops. i heard about forced performance and others through DSMtalk in the first place. having said that i don't want to see ads TOTALLY unrelated to DSMs.

also for the record: i like small sections being devoted to the evo etc. the SRT-4 even has a small place in my heart. it lets all those guys running the 420a to not be so hurt when somebody tells them their car has a NEON motor. :D

Unfortunately, that's how we pay the bills. It comes down to:

No ads, no DSMtalk

Ads + DSMtalk

[LatDSM]

Since the car profile is directly linked to the timeslip page and it has a rank by ETs, maybe it could be made as another informative point under the user names.

Like "Car 1/4 mile rank: #xxx"

I know it would make some people try to cheat on their 1/4mile times, but the top 10-20 could be requierd to be verified by some sort of evidence (video/timeslip/reference).

just an idea

[spyder69]

New site is better , :D

[Brown Streak]

Unfortunately, that's how we pay the bills. It comes down to:

No ads, no DSMtalk

Ads + DSMtalk

You can always set it up like mr2oc.com and have a 10$ per year gold membership

[eclipseturbo90]

Was not here for old one so of course I like the new design!

[ineedtounlock]

lol i never seen the old one either :P

[ISeeSlowPeople]

Old design is neat n things

[araknid01]

i like the new layout much better. easier format to get used to

[socalmodelboy]

I am new to dsmtalk and in my opinion makeing new members wait 7 days to post anything and not being able to access the parts for sale section is frusterating and i almost dident join the site because of it. The big factor was that this seems to be the only decent dsm site on the web but it still doesent make up for the long wait...

[Spyder1gdsm]

I am new to dsmtalk and in my opinion makeing new members wait 7 days to post anything and not being able to access the parts for sale section is frusterating and i almost dident join the site because of it. The big factor was that this seems to be the only decent dsm site on the web but it still doesent make up for the long wait...

Blame the newbs that came before you, not the site.

[Carnage VR4]

I liked viewing peopels sig's pics. Sucks that that is gone.

ekool, I know that you are aware that 3Si has managed pretty well with still allowing limited size sig pics. Just tell all the mods to be quick to recognize/fix the issue. People will get the idea. Anyway, I still check out the forums every so often.


-Matt

[Munford]

New one for sure