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gsxalex
09-18-2000, 07:42 PM
I had my mas modified by Dave at boosted performance. I have been very happy with it. The restrictive honeycombs get removed and the lower opening gets opened up quite a bit.
I have run 21 psi of boost with no fuelcut. Dave claims you can run at least 25psi without fuelcut, i will back this up as soon as i try.
Also the air/fuel ratio is supposed to be leaned out, but I have no meter to measure if i still run rich or not.
At $150 it is cheaper than an afc and a lot easier too. It will definetly outflow the stock, and would probably match a "hacked" mas
I like mine and would recommend it to anyone who runs under about 450hp.
gsxalex
04-19-2001, 12:09 AM
I havn't seen anybody else ever mention this product. So i just want to get the word out because i am very impressed with this thing!
So far I know for a fact that its good into the 12's @ 109.
Let me tell you a little story that happened to me very recently.
I started hitting fuelcut for the first time barely a week ago. It was the same night i took my car to the strip and ran 12.7 @ 109. I was a bit disappointed for obvious reasons, especially because i was only running 20 psi. So I called up Dave @ Boosted the next day and said WTF! I explained to him my basic mods and asked why i was hitting fuelcut at only 20 psi on a 14b. He knew right away! He told me i most likely had boost leaks somewhere because the modded mas should actually handle close to 30 psi!!!
Well sure enough after i devised a way to use an aircompressor to check for leaks to my suprise i had FOUR! One of them actually comes from the compressor housing of the turbo where the huge cir-clip goes. Another was a tear in one of my I/C pipe couplings, another was in the line that feeds the BOV and yet another was in my UIP @ the BOV flange (crappy weld job by the folks @ overboosted.com)!
I have taken care of all of the leaks except the compressor housing one and i am happy to say that there have been no reoccurances of fuelcut. Plus the ass dyno is reading more power to boot!
If you guys want to go fast without spending a bunch of money consider this: The main reason that people buy an AFC is so that they can run bigger injectors. The main reason people run bigger injectors is because they are trying to push back fuelcut.
The stock 450's are good into the LOW 12's!!!!!
If you aren't already in the low 12's you don't need an AFC or bigger injectors if you use this thing! Not sure about 2g's, but 1g's for sure!
People who like big flashy blinky things in their car that they don't know how to use need not apply.
nukefission
04-19-2001, 12:29 PM
How's the idle with this thing on? What exactly does he do to the MAS anyway? Does he remove both honeycombs or just the lower one? And the metered passage... I assume he gets rid of the pillars and stuff in the middle and smooths the whole thing out -- is this correct? If that's the case it sounds like it would simply be a good DIY experiment, instead of paying $150 to have it done. I'm still curious about it though.
redryda
04-19-2001, 04:49 PM
what aboutus 2G will these work, since ours
are btte to begin with.
gsxalex
04-19-2001, 08:11 PM
I assume he gets rid of the pillars and stuff in the middle and smooths the whole thing out -- is this correct?
Basically.
The metered section stays the same, but the other section gets opened up as much as it possibly can.
But its not realy a DIY thing. I don't know how, but he somehow changes the parameters of the electronics inside the mas unit so that it still works properly.
You would need to hook it up to some crazy computer equipment, crack the language code and then reprogram the parameters of the chip inside the MAS itself.
If you were to hack the mas without doing the reprogramming you would need an AFC to compensate for the increased airflow. But that still wouldn't push back fuelcut anywhere near as far as this thing. My guess is that you would need a hacked mas, AFC, and 550's to be able to flow as much air without fuelcut.
Yes, all the honeycombs come out.
Idle is the same as it ever was.
A/F is leaner than stock.
As for the 2'g guys I never really probed him much for that, but i was told "we do something a bit diferent for the 2g MAS"
I have no idea what or how well the 2g mas mod works, but i know that if you ask him the right questions you will get all your answers and then some. This guy is very intelegent.
ohmygawd
04-20-2001, 12:03 AM
Alex, do you have a website? I'm interested.
gsxalex
04-20-2001, 12:30 AM
Oh yeah,
http://www.boostedperformance.com/
sometimes the link doesn't work for me so you might want to try going there from here:
http://www.dsm.org/vendors.epl#b and just look for the link.
DiamondsR4EVR
04-20-2001, 01:44 AM
Sounds interesting. I have a 99 GSX and I'm hitting fuel cut at 18 psi with my small 16g. I wonder how high your EGTs go with this mod. I definitely wouldn't run it without at least an A/F gauge. Wonder what the turn around time is?
Jesse
gsxalex
04-20-2001, 01:59 AM
Turnaround was pretty quick. I mailed it priority from WI to NJ and it cost about $6 and took only one day to get there. He modded it and shipped it out right away and i got it the following day. If you shipped it monday you could get it back as soon as wednesday. Unfortunatly you have to deal with some down time, but if your car is laid up or you have a spare MAS its no biggie.
DiamondsR4EVR
04-20-2001, 02:39 PM
Just talked to Boosted Performance, they don't modify 2g MAS's. That sucks. Thanks for getting my hopes up Alex. JK ;)
Jesse
ohmygawd
04-20-2001, 03:44 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww man
gsxalex
04-21-2001, 02:25 AM
they don't modify 2g MAS's
hmmm... I could have sworn i asked him awhile back. Oh well, i guess i stand corrected. Thanks for the info Jesse. They seem to be more or less a 1g oriented place, so i guess its no suprise.
GrocMax
04-22-2001, 02:57 AM
I wouldn't let Boosted Performance change the oil in my lawnmower.
prediction- Another unnecessarily expired engine in the near future.
blacklaser
04-22-2001, 08:23 AM
hey grocmax u know dave LOL hahaha
where u from...cuz i live right near his house like5 min away,...
91 laser turbo-nj
countersniper
04-22-2001, 05:36 PM
I agree with GrocMax. The website alone scares me. It looks like they took the parts site from one of buscher's old ones or somethin. Read some of the remarks they make. Sorry but they seem like idiots to me.
WhiteLX
04-23-2001, 03:45 AM
What chip would be in a mass air flow meter? Isn't is just a hot wire thermistor being used in a voltage divider? After a quick review of their website, it appears to be some real dumbasses at work here. Look at the Fuelon section and see how they gained 30, yes THIRTY, hp just from using these fuel and oil additives. The fuel additive must be nitromethane.
WhiteLX
04-23-2001, 03:51 AM
It only gets better! Check out the pictures section and the judicious use of zip ties and dryer hose. What's up with all the NOS stickers? Maybe he needs a great big wing to add even MORE stickers. HAHAHAHA!
blacklaser
04-23-2001, 08:54 AM
hey guys i can say that i personaly know this guy...and as he does know a lot about these cars sadly to say he never really followed with his talent and only tried to make money by ripping people off...he talks a lot of bullshit and his car is quick.. i dont know about the 12.08...but like i said he knows stuff...but he is just full of shit most of the time and tries to bullshit people and make money off them...the whole MAF thing does work but it can mess up your idle...
91 laser tubo w/some work
gsxalex
04-23-2001, 02:31 PM
What chip would be in a mass air flow meter?
Have you ever taken your MAS apart? There's a bunch of electronics in there, including some sort of chip.
Look, im not saying anything about their ability to change oil, hp gain from fuelon or anything other than that this MAS Mod works. I paid for it and i'm impressed with it.
Last weekend when this guy with a gsx with a 20g, afc, 720s, LOTs of other stuff found out i have no fuel computer and stock injectors he almost shit his pants! His car ran a best of a 12.1 @ 119 that day.
I see so many people buying AFC's and injectors and these people are all running 13's. All Im saying is that spending $150 is better than buying an AFC and injectors unless you're shooting for 11's.
MoBoost
04-23-2001, 03:11 PM
Oh boy ....
The only thing that is being changed in hacked MAS - is a resistor sliced in on barometric sensor wires - THAT'S ALL!!!!
I have FFWD Connection (http://www.ffwdconnection.com) hacked MAS - very happy with it :)
gsxalex
04-23-2001, 03:26 PM
moboost, i just looked over the ffwd website and only found a blaha modded mas for $140. Is this the one? Why don't you do a review on yours?
Sm0key23
04-23-2001, 05:45 PM
MOBOOST, do you have the email address to FFWDCONNECTION
MoBoost
04-24-2001, 10:03 AM
I'll do the reveiw :) Yup, that's the MAS - Al Blaha, modified tho....
FFWD e-mail: Fasfwrd@aol.com
Quadcylla
04-24-2001, 11:37 AM
The Blaha, Boosted, and Mike J (DIYS kit) MAF mods are all basically the same thing done slightly differently.
Yes the only electronic change is a resistor or thermistor added to the air temp sensor line.
If you have a new style s_AFC don't waste your time buying one of these things... you can hack your own safely with a little guidance.
If you don't have an S-AFC then one of these 'properly hacked MAFs' is a great mod for very little cost.
90TSI-AWD
04-26-2001, 05:43 PM
so the MAS from boosted is basicall a rehased Blaha MAS right? So whats better? and would the Blaha give gsxalex the same benefit as the mod from boosted?
Quadcylla
04-27-2001, 08:52 AM
I don't know what the exact differences are I'm just saying they're all doing the same thing by the same methods. Plus I think the originators of the whole MAF hack were HKS... so Blaha's is a rehashed HKS hack.
Each will give you the same benefits roughly. Don't know if the differences are even worth comparison.
p.s. I've never seen the boosted mod but it sounds the same.
pressurized300zx
04-28-2001, 11:09 AM
Well I've tried that boosted performance maf, and it's a pos...I noticed no gains, no quicker spool time, and it fu@ked up my idle. I called dumbass, and told him my problems, and he then tried to sell me on changing my vaccum lines, making an egr block off plate, and some other bs...In short, avoid this shop, ...hmmmmm, I wonder why I have never seen a write-up on him in Turbo or Sport Compact car.<----THIS HAS BEEN A REALITY CHECK!!!!
DSMu4ia
04-30-2001, 04:23 PM
Why do you want to buy a modded MAS? If you want to...mod it yourself. RRE has a nice page...you can remove 1 or 2 or 3 of the 4 honeycombs and mess with the MAS screw until you get the desired result. Idle sucks..but I'm pretty sure you won't find a much better idle with an aftermarket MAS. If you need more air...just back the screw out flush..removing honeycombs made my idle suck.
MoBoost
04-30-2001, 07:03 PM
Originally posted by DSMu4ia
Why do you want to buy a modded MAS? If you want to...mod it yourself. RRE has a nice page...you can remove 1 or 2 or 3 of the 4 honeycombs and mess with the MAS screw until you get the desired result. Idle sucks..but I'm pretty sure you won't find a much better idle with an aftermarket MAS. If you need more air...just back the screw out flush..removing honeycombs made my idle suck.
Ummm ... we are talking about 1G MAF.
Why do we want to mess with it? The hacked part alone flows more than 2G whole MAF .....
DSMu4ia
04-30-2001, 08:44 PM
exactly...
I understand why 1g owners would...
If you saw the top of my post it said 2g owners. There had been posts in this thread from 2g owners about modding or buying a modded MAS for their *2G* cars. That's whom I was directing it to. :D
MoBoost
04-30-2001, 09:23 PM
Oops. My bad, man ... sorry :)
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