EVO's and DSM's a quick faq.

[punisher]

Okay, so I’m really getting quite tired of posting answers to the same evo related questions over and over again on the car forums, so pay attention. Here’s a few faq’s.

Q: Will an Evo 8 or Evo 9 engine bolt into any dsm?
A: Not a chance in hell. The engines on the evos are swapped 180’ from the dsm’s so it will involve much more work than it is worth. There really isn’t any advantage to having an evo engine in a dsm (other than telling your friends your sporting an evo engine, even they will think your retarded for wasting so much time and money). A properly built dsm engine will cost much less, bolt in, and most likely out perform the evo engine.

Q: Can I bolt on an Evo 8 turbo to my dsm?
A: No, the evo uses a TD05HR-16G6-9.8T (03’-04’ models), TD05HR-16G6-10.5T (05’ models) or a TD05HRA-16G6-10.5T (Ti Alloy option).

All Evo 4-8 Turbos are twin scroll designs meaning that the engines exhaust is divided into two channels. As the engine exhausts in pulses. It is supposed to result in quicker spooling. From the Evo 4 onwards, the Turbo spins in the opposite direction, i.e. Anticlockwise (hence the R in the turbo name). The Titanium Alumnide alloy used (factory option) has less inertia and thus spins up around 500 rpm sooner. These Titanium turbos can be indentified by the A in their name.

There are people who have installed evo 8 turbos on dsms, it is not impossible, just not very logical. You will need the evo 8 manifold and hardware. And you will have to relocate the alternator and make a bunch of custom piping. You will be a lot better off buying a turbo that is made for “your” car. There are numerous options out there that will cost less than the evo 8 setup, but will make much more power.

The Evo 3 16g that everyone is use to is a TD05H–16G6-7. This turbo will bolt directly onto 1gs and will fit 2gs with that have been modified to use a 1g turbo.

Q: Can I use an evo 8 exhaust manifold on my dsm?
A: No, while yes it will bolt up to your head, it will not bolt up to your turbo. This is due to it not only being twinscroll (it has 2 triangular ports while your turbo has 1 round one). The turbo flange bolt pattern is different also.

Q: Can I use an evo 8 valve cover?
A: No, it wont bolt up at all.

Q: Can I use evo 8 injectors?
A: Yes the injectors will fit perfectly. They are 560cc.

Q: Can I use an evo 8 fmic?
A: Yes this can be made to fit as well. It will require cutting and custom piping. Keep in mind that the majority of evo owners replace their intercooler as they approach roughly 350 awhp. If you plan on making more power, you will need a larger intercooler.

Q: Can I use evo 8 seats.
A: Yes the seats can be fitted to a dsm. You will need custom brackets made to do so.

Q: Will evo 8/9 rims fit my dsm.
A: Yes. The rims will bolt on without any problems, however they will stick out about a ¼ inch in the front.

[Tenacious-B]

Good information. I have a feeling I'm going to be linking to this post an awful lot.

[GimmieBoost]

Good info. What about an EVO 8 fuel pump?

EDIT: I heard rumors that the MAF and BOV can also be used.

[4SFED4]

Great post... Now we just have to hope the newbies will use the "Search" function to find it, instead of starting new threads.
Mods make it a "Sticky" maybe???

[punisher]

Good info. What about an EVO 8 fuel pump?

EDIT: I heard rumors that the MAF and BOV can also be used.


The bov is dimensionally identical to the 2g. The only difference is that the one on the Evo actually does hold boost. I run 21psi and it holds no problem. If I had a 2g I would definatly look into an evo bov. They usually go for around $20-25 used.

Not sure about the fuel pump. We all upgrade to the walbro 255 anyways, so I really doubt its much better than a dsms pump.

Im not sure about the maf either. It uses the same aftermarket filter adapter as a 2g, but other than that I dont know.

[SQTalon]

anyone have pics of the evo 8 seats in a DSM?

[punisher]

anyone have pics of the evo 8 seats in a DSM?
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144200&highlight=evo+seats

[dsm1891]

being a newbie this thread is a HUGE help with my budget build. saw the post about the bov working on a 2g, how bout a 1g? I am still relatively new to this so please bare with me. Thanks.

*yes, I know the 1g bov is an excellent piece, but just curious being I have a stock evo 8 bov readily available to me for practically nothing

[punisher]

The 1g bov is better than the evo's. Buschur actually offers the 1g bov on his upgraded intercooler piping for the evos. There wouldn't be any gains by switching to an evo's bov.

[Dustin16]

The 1g bov is better than the evo's. Buschur actually offers the 1g bov on his upgraded intercooler piping for the evos. There wouldn't be any gains by switching to an evo's bov.

I noticed that the other day, Ive got a spare one laying around. I wonder if i should swap the stock one on my mr to the 1g.

[MegaGS]

Good information. I have a feeling I'm going to be linking to this post an awful lot.

I don't pay as much attention to turbo related posts as I'm sure you guys do, but this is all relatively old information.

[2deep]

Good info. What about an EVO 8 fuel pump?

EDIT: I heard rumors that the MAF and BOV can also be used.


There are guys on the DSMlink forums already running evo8 maf's. They flow about 30% more that the 2G maf's, I myself am going to look into getting one.

[GimmieBoost]

Cool, does anyone know how to wire one up to a 1g?

[GSX911]

Good info. What about an EVO 8 fuel pump?

EDIT: I heard rumors that the MAF and BOV can also be used.


Yes Evo VIII and IX Fuel Pumps will fit in a DSM.

Evo VIII = 190lph
Evo IX= 255lph <-----Just like a Walbro.

I have installed many of these on DSMs and they are a perfect upgrade.

I sell these pumps as well....PM me for info.

[GSX911]

I am going to grab a set of Evo Brembos and slap them onto my 2G. I'll let you know how it works out.

[typerhead1]

Yes Evo VIII and IX Fuel Pumps will fit in a DSM.

Evo VIII = 190lph
Evo IX= 255lph <-----Just like a Walbro.

I have installed many of these on DSMs and they are a perfect upgrade.

I sell these pumps as well....



clean out your mail box and pm me about the evo 9 fuel pump...

[punisher]

I just found out that the Evo brakes will definately fit on a 2g as well, a member on here did the swap using 99' galant knuckles and everything else bolted up, he said that the rears will fit as well but the dust covers need trimming. We're still not sure about the fitment on 1g's.

[4SFED4]

We're still not sure about the fitment on 1g's.
Hopefully we can get an update on that.

[dsmtalontsi]

Yes Evo VIII and IX Fuel Pumps will fit in a DSM.

Evo VIII = 190lph
Evo IX= 255lph <-----Just like a Walbro.

I have installed many of these on DSMs and they are a perfect upgrade.

I sell these pumps as well....


clean out your mail box and pm me about the evo 9 fuel pump...

Yes please pm me 2 about the evo 9 fuel pump.

[sfron03]

i can only seem to find pics of 1g with the evo8 rims. can anyone hook it up with a 2g with the evo8 rims?

[gvr4Jay]

What about some other parts? Would these work, and be advantagous?
Intake manifold
fuel rail
coil/ignition setup

[DSM-FREAK]

Will The Ecu Support This Injector, Or Will I Have To Flash Ecu Or Reprogrm With Somethin Like Dsm Link

[FMFGSX]

What all is needed for the evo maf swap on a 2g? Do you need to rewire anything or change the tuning?

[RE's 97 gs-t]

Will The Ecu Support This Injector, Or Will I Have To Flash Ecu Or Reprogrm With Somethin Like Dsm Link
no our 2g 97 ecu's will not support 560cc injectors and our ecu's can not be reprogrammed, flashed or anything like that. If you want to run bigger injectors like the Evo's then you will need some sort of fuel tuning device i.e. SAFC, GM maf and maft translator, or DSMlink + 95 eprom ecu.

[90BlueGSX]

what about engine internals like vavles, piston, camshafts etc... so other people know in the future.

[FMFGSX]

I know the cams cannot be used, but not sure about pistons and valve spring/lifters.

[punisher]

I know the cams cannot be used, but not sure about pistons and valve spring/lifters.

Actually, (and there is a lot of controversy on this on other forums btw) the cams do fit 1g's, with some minor work. A slot needs to be machined into the back of the intake cam for the cas and the dowel pins need to be relocated to align the dsm cam gears. Other than that, dimensionally they drop right in. I'm still researching this, trying to find a way to install them without machine work. I'll share more info as I find it.

The pistons are rumored to work.

[FMFGSX]

If they fit a 1g then they should fit a 2g. What is the lobe size, lift, etc. for the cams? Also wondering about the EVO MAF swap, is it a plug and play or do you have to mate wires and tune it?

[T_K]

I just read the faq and noticed the Evo 8 exhaust mani should bolt to a DSM head, but not to a DSM turbo. Well then can't we just use an Evo 8 turbo with it? Would there be any benefit from it?

[punisher]

I just read the faq and noticed the Evo 8 exhaust mani should bolt to a DSM head, but not to a DSM turbo. Well then can't we just use an Evo 8 turbo with it? Would there be any benefit from it?

We're opening a big ol' can of worms with this one and it has been covered a more than few times. Basically the evo 8 mainfold will bolt to your head no problems but the turbo is backwards and offset to where the comp. housing will interfere with your alternator. This can be fixed with the alternator relocation kit that many dsm shops sell. Then you will need all custom piping and the oils and water lines would route the same as you would a dsm turbo, except the hardlines wont fit once again due to the turbo's offset (see pic). Not to mention that the maf and intake filter/pipe would have to be moved to the opposite side of the engine bay. Sure the swap can be done. but there are turbo setups out there that will produce more power for less money and time. In my opinion, the benifit is not worth the cost. A new evo3 16g will yield similar power results for much less money.

http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m226/hotrodhoju/evoanddsm.jpg
This is the engine bay of my evo8 with a 1g manifold sitting on the radiator. Notice how the evo's turbo is much more offset to the right and the dsm's is offset to the left.

[punisher]

If they fit a 1g then they should fit a 2g. What is the lobe size, lift, etc. for the cams? Also wondering about the EVO MAF swap, is it a plug and play or do you have to mate wires and tune it?

Certainly, a 2g could run the cams but you would have to switch to a 1g cas. Here's some cam specs. http://www.socalevo.net/forum/index.php?topic=28458.0 Also I have not tried them yet and only a small handfull of others say they have done it. So if you are going to try it keep in mind this is just logical hearsay at this point. All that claim it won't work can't come up with any hard data why it won't. So this is what the others said they did to make them work. I am going to try it sometime.

As for the evo maf, it is the same as hooking up a 3g maf, do a google search, there's a lot of info on it.

[Notable]

Good information, definately. Glad I searched this first before posting.

[JessGST]

Also wondering about the EVO MAF swap, is it a plug and play or do you have to mate wires and tune it?

An Evo 8 MAF flows around 25-30% more then a 2G MAF. I run one in my car. It is not plug and play. You will need a plug from any 2000+ Mitsubishi and since the MAF is round, you will need a 1G intake pipe if you have a 2g.

I use DSM Link to compensate for the additional airflow. These are the values Thomas Dorris came up with and they seem to work perfectly in every car:

50hz - 31%
150hz - 25%
250hz - 23%
400hz - 23%
800hz - 25%
1200hz - 27%
1600hz - 27%

Be sure to set the 2000 and 2400hz sliders equal to 27% as well or else you run the risk of suddenly going lean above that poing.

[JessGST]

Oh and valve springs, retainers, rods, and valves out of an Evo will fit in a DSM. Pistons will work also, but will require modification. I read about it on this site what is needed to be done, I just dont remember.

[0lmytsi]

These crazy fuckers have been throwing evo4+ motors in non turbo 2gs (420a base).

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/minghunghsieh2/album?.dir=eca2scd&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

[silvercoupe97]

An Evo 8 MAF flows around 25-30% more then a 2G MAF. I run one in my car. It is not plug and play. You will need a plug from any 2000+ Mitsubishi and since the MAF is round, you will need a 1G intake pipe if you have a 2g.

I use DSM Link to compensate for the additional airflow. These are the values Thomas Dorris came up with and they seem to work perfectly in every car:

50hz - 31%
150hz - 25%
250hz - 23%
400hz - 23%
800hz - 25%
1200hz - 27%
1600hz - 27%

Be sure to set the 2000 and 2400hz sliders equal to 27% as well or else you run the risk of suddenly going lean above that poing.Good info on that Jess, thanks.

[FMFGSX]

good info on cams,

Evolution VIII cams 248°/248°
Evolution IX cams 256°/248°
DSM "D" "C" cams 252°/252°

[DSM_Aruba]

These crazy fuckers have been throwing evo4+ motors in non turbo 2gs (420a base).

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/minghunghsieh2/album?.dir=eca2scd&.src=ph&store=&prodid=&.done=http%3a//photos.yahoo.com/ph//my_photos

Damn these guys have deep pockets to do that EVO swap in a 2G. Very nice swap. Where are these cars located?

[punisher]

Damn these guys have deep pockets to do that EVO swap in a 2G. Very nice swap. Where are these cars located?

The cars are in Taiwan.

[90BlueGSX]

since we are talking about DSM and Evo topic.

to what I know the same 4G63 short block as in the 2G and EVO. Does the evo going to have crankwalk or Mitsubishi have fix that problem ? crankwalk that is

I was scanning the past post and didn't seem to see anyone was talking about this. if it is a repost i'm sorry.

[Spoolin69]

Yes Evo VIII and IX Fuel Pumps will fit in a DSM.

Evo VIII = 190lph
Evo IX= 255lph <-----Just like a Walbro.

I have installed many of these on DSMs and they are a perfect upgrade.

I sell these pumps as well....PM me for info.
Your feedback is -1 why should we trust you? You have 2 neg feedbacks and you are braking the rules by posting a for sale in a normal topic...
-Shane

[FMFGSX]

since we are talking about DSM and Evo topic.

to what I know the same 4G63 short block as in the 2G and EVO. Does the evo going to have crankwalk or Mitsubishi have fix that problem ? crankwalk that is

I was scanning the past post and didn't seem to see anyone was talking about this. if it is a repost i'm sorry.

From what I've seen the EVO I-III didn't have this problem. They were 7-bolt. They had a 9:1 compression, Forged pistons and a better head. Stock hp for the EVO III was 275, I believe. The EVO IV-VI had a problem with crank walking, from what I'm told. If this information is incorrect please correct me.

[NOMIEZVR4]

Your feedback is -1 why should we trust you? You have 2 neg feedbacks and you are braking the rules by posting a for sale in a normal topic...
-Shane

Off topic but the fuel pump does fit :)

[90BlueGSX]

From what I've seen the EVO I-III didn't have this problem. They were 7-bolt. They had a 9:1 compression, Forged pistons and a better head. Stock hp for the EVO III was 275, I believe. The EVO IV-VI had a problem with crank walking, from what I'm told. If this information is incorrect please correct me.


cool thats good to know. so any crank walker yet on evo 7-9 ??

[punisher]

From what I've seen the EVO I-III didn't have this problem. They were 7-bolt. They had a 9:1 compression, Forged pistons and a better head. Stock hp for the EVO III was 275, I believe. The EVO IV-VI had a problem with crank walking, from what I'm told. If this information is incorrect please correct me.

Correction, The Evo3 is the worst I have ever seen with crankwalk. There are countless owners overseas popping up on Evo boards with engines that have walked.

Mitsubishi's solution to the crankwalk issue was flipping the engine 180' and using a pull style clutch instead of a normal push clutch. They first did this with the Evo4. I still haven't heard of any newer Evo's with crankwalk but they are still really new. I'm not worried about it with my Evo.

All Evos also have cast aluminum pistons, not forged and the Evo3 was the one and only Evo with 9:1 comp. ratio, the 1 and 2 had 8.5:1 and from the 4 on they have always had 8.8:1.

[JessGST]

I still haven't heard of any newer Evo's with crankwalk but they are still really new. I'm not worried about it with my Evo.

I've seen a couple cases pop up on EvoM, but I still don't think it's anything to worry about. Any car can CW.

[silvercoupe97]

Q: Will evo 8/9 rims fit my dsm.
A: Yes. The rims will bolt on without any problems, however they will stick out about a ¼ inch in the front.
I'd like to comment on this. I tried this with my buddy's EVO8 rims and, as stated, worked very nicely since the bolt pattern is the same. I have 40mm offset rims at this time and I hate how they stick out (and they really don't stick out that much).
I put the EVO rims on and it was hard not to notice them sticking out. My buddy even stated how they stuck out compare to the other side (which still had my rims on them).
My car is lowered to where I can fit a finger and a half still btw.
Don't mind the crappy cell pic and the crappy painted rim
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v322/silvercoupe97/th_EVO8rims.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/silvercoupe97/EVO8rims.jpg?t=1168499351)
This is what the EVO rim looks like from the top, as best as I could get it even.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v322/silvercoupe97/th_EVO8rimsoffset.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/silvercoupe97/EVO8rimsoffset.jpg?t=1168499412)
This is what my 40mm rim looks like from the top, as best as I could get it even.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v322/silvercoupe97/th_40mmoffset.jpg (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v322/silvercoupe97/40mmoffset.jpg?t=1168499468)
Again, sorry for the crappy pics, but I forgot my camera on the kitchen counter, lol. My purpose for putting on this rim was to see what and how it will sit, because there are folks putting them on. If I were to go over some sort of pothole or bump out here, they would definitely rub the fenders at the height my car sits. I suppose that if I raise my car back up, I would be fine and the wheels would sit the same as my 40mm offset wheels that I have on there now.
BTW, these stock EVO rims still have the tire that came with them.
I hope that helps clarify things.
Good thread btw.

If the pics don't work, let me know. It's on photobucket and you know how they can be at times...and click the pics to see the full size crappy pic too.

[punisher]

Did you install them on your avenger? I have noticed that on the 2g's they don't stick out hardly at all, but when I had them on my 1g I didn't like how they looked because they were sticking out just enough to look goofy.

[silvercoupe97]

I did, but the Avenger's and the Eclipse/Talon's stock offset are really close. The Eclipse/Talon is +46mm and the Avenger/Sebring is +45mm. So, there would only be a MM difference and shouldn't cause those rims to stick out like they do. And the only difference between the E/T fender is that they are shorter than the A/S fenders. However;, at the next local DSM meet or whenever I get a chance to meet up with one, I'll measure the fenders just to be more positive.

I had to put the EVO rims on because on "paper", there's a difference of 9mm moving the rims outwards. That's a lot IMO. So, I had to see for myself, lol.
I really don't think that there would be an issue of rubbing if my ride height was limited to a 1.5" drop. I've got at least a 2"+ drop though. That right there moves my arc travel outwards enough for those wheels to rub the front and back fenders.

*oh yeah, not to mention that I have suspension components from a 95 GSX, so that would make my car's offset the same as the E/T. But, again, it's only a MM, lol.

[Bazza2541]

Ok here goes.
All EVO's get crankwalk. From the first to the newest. Blocks are considered wearable parts on rallycars here.
Next and this is a doozy............Can I install an EVO 3 head and manifolds etc onto my 6 bolt block?

Cheers.

[psykhotic]

Heres info on the flow rate for the Evo fuel pumps...

http://www.roadraceengineering.com/fuelpumpflowrates.htm

[The_EE]

Will a evo crank work? I cant find any local places that have a 7 bolt crank for a decent price but a local tuning shop has a good number of evo ones for a good price. They should be identical correct? The bearing is what matters.

[silvercoupe97]

Will a evo crank work? I cant find any local places that have a 7 bolt crank for a decent price but a local tuning shop has a good number of evo ones for a good price. They should be identical correct? The bearing is what matters.
You know what's funny about that EE? Slowboy sells a 7 bolt crank for both the EVO 8-9 and DSM...the same crank.
http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=5413&
Maybe I'm just reading it wrong...IDK.

[punisher]

You know what's funny about that EE? Slowboy sells a 7 bolt crank for both the EVO 8-9 and DSM...the same crank.
http://www.slowboyracing.com/more.php?id=5413&
Maybe I'm just reading it wrong...IDK.

I wouldn't trust that info, those dudes are clueless... didn't they used to have a shortblock pic on their site with a piston installed backwards?

I have an Evo stroker crank(4g64) sitting here in front of me if anyone wants bearing measurements.

[Pookers]

bump for more info

oh and i heard on evo m some guys use their mafs as blow though,, any info?

[evo8mrdude]

I noticed that the other day, Ive got a spare one laying around. I wonder if i should swap the stock one on my mr to the 1g.

No, don't do it. The stock on your Evo 9 MR is even better. I held 26-27psi on my Evo without having to crush the top of the BOV.

I also used the 1Gen DSM BOV on my Evo 8 MR with the Buschur UICP but I had to crush it a lot as I was running 28-30psi.

If you are thinking about replacing the stock Evo 9 metal BOV to the buschur, don't bother, yours is fine and will hold boost better.

[evo8mrdude]

I am running a set of Evo 9 rims with the oem 235 and fits well on my 2Gen. I also have the stock Evo 8 IC and works well(made 400.0whp on a Mustang Dyno to all 4 wheels)

www.evoixgrl.blogsport.com

[FMFGSX]

Was it ever a yes or no on the stock evo crankshaft being used in a 2g 7bolt?

[fanaticdsm-er]

Great info in this thread.

[4g64fiero]

I want to know if the evo 3 head will fit any dsm block. I mean, it should. I dont see why not. I've been lookin for one.

[4g64fiero]

Was it ever a yes or no on the stock evo crankshaft being used in a 2g 7bolt?


A 7 bolt crank is a 7 bolt crank. As long as you use a set of non split thrust bearings with the crank it will work just dandy in your engine. Nothing needs changed.

:really:

[Infinity]

Ok so let me get this right... Evo Crank will work in DSMs. What about the rods? Pistons? Have to be Evo or Can they be 2G?

[4g64fiero]

Ok so let me get this right... Evo Crank will work in DSMs. What about the rods? Pistons? Have to be Evo or Can they be 2G?
Some guys over at dsmtuners are running them. So technically you can swap evo everything in a 7 bolt.

[Infinity]

The part numbers are different from cranks, I wonder why.

[4g64fiero]

The part numbers are different from cranks, I wonder why.
Well, heres where I'm getting my info;
http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/newbie-forum/298272-evo-8-crankshaft-eclipse-2g.html
SBR says the 7 bolts crank walk because of the 1 piece main bearing design, but since the 98.5-99 dsms had a two piece design, they aren't as susceptible to crank walk. Obviously you have to use whatever bearing your engine came with, but you can still use an evo crank with a one piece bearing.

I thought evo's didn't crank walk because of their clutch design? Also, the early 7 bolts were designed to give oil pressure to the bearings first then the oil squirters, but the latter 7 bolts had the oil pressure going to the oil squirters then the bearings, resulting in bearing failure from what I've read.

[gSx-LeX]

2g cranks will fit Evos. I know because I've sold my old 2g crank to some evo guy for relatively good profit.

[16G_tsi_awd]

Every engine's thrust bearing wears out. And the crank surface it rides on.

So anyone have a picture of a new evo rotating assembly? (stock)

[4g64fiero]

Every engine's thrust bearing wears out. And the crank surface it rides on.



Yep, thats bearings are called bearings and journals are called journals.;) :rudolph:

[myAWDgst]

Great post... Now we just have to hope the newbies will use the "Search" function to find it, instead of starting new threads.
Mods make it a "Sticky" maybe???
LOL:)

[P.C.Yang]

I know a lot of Evo owners who are making 300+ wheel on a mustang, and not a sign of crank walk.

I have 118k miles on my 03 w/ 272 cams, 880cc injectors, 23psi, O2 housing, TBE, test pipe, HKS intake, Injen pipes, making almost 300 and car starts, and runs strong everyday.

[fanaticdsm-er]

Well thats because mitsubishi decided to change the clutch design to help prevent it.

[Pookers]

Well thats because mitsubishi decided to change the clutch design to help prevent it.


Sorry to bring back from the dead, but it was the thrust bearingkilling cranks not the clutch.

[gdmbat85]

Q: Will an Evo 8 or Evo 9 engine bolt into any dsm?
A: Not a chance in hell. The engines on the evos are swapped 180’ from the dsm’s so it will involve much more work than it is worth. There really isn’t any advantage to having an evo engine in a dsm (other than telling your friends your sporting an evo engine, even they will think your retarded for wasting so much time and money). A properly built dsm engine will cost much less, bolt in, and most likely out perform the evo engine.



That part is actually not true. I've seen and been told by the owner that it's very easy to drop in an evo motor into a non-turbo DSM 2g since they have the same reversed design. According to him, it's almost a direct bolt in.

[Pookers]

It's all hear-say I have NEVER seen it done along with the elusive srt-4 motor swap.

3g's yes 2g's never seen it.

[gdmbat85]

Oh and if it helps, and someone can confirm this, evo cranks, rods and pistons are all interchangable with 7 bolts. Atleast I know this is the case with aftermarket ones. The reasons why things might have different part numbers is because the evo components are all forged, as opposed to dsm 7 bolts.

[silvercoupe97]

I take it you guys haven't seen the thread about the Evo 4-9 4g63 motor swap into a 420a DSM then....

It's a drop in for the 420a motors because the mounts are located in the same spots. The only thing is that one may want to space the passenger's side mount about an 1/8th of an inch to the driver's side, but it is not necessary.

[silvercoupe97]

Ok, I can't find the thread, but I did manage to find the e-journal of the swap.
http://repo.jackmoves.com/v/shawn/Eclipse/evo_swap/


**found it**
http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=198729

[frankozz]

Haha ^^ That thread was epic.... And it kept getting better after he posted new threads about how his 600+hp 420a blew in pieces, then he wanted an evo, then decided that he wanted a 1g :evillaugh: We should have a section for epic threads like those.... I'm pretty sure that there are several threads like that here in talk.... Mods, get steppin :P

[punisher]

It's all hear-say I have NEVER seen it done along with the elusive srt-4 motor swap.

3g's yes 2g's never seen it.

+1, no one in the US has really succesfully done an evo swap. If it really was such a simple swap every 420a guy would be all over it. The only handfull of people who have done it so far are in Tawain.

[FMFGSX]

We can add the Evo 8 ECU to the list now. :naughty:

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/tuning-engine-management/313761-evo-8-ecu-2g-works-3.html