My 92 talon race car build

[destroydsm]

This is the start of my build up of my 92 talon, im currently in the process of getting the car stripped down and doing the body work and getting it painted. So far i removed the rear spoiler and filled in the holes for that, and the antenna, and put a laser hatch on.. i want my car to be different so it will have a 1ga front end with 1gb tsi sideskirts and tail lights, with no spoiler at all.. and the rear bumper cover was cut at the bottom for a diff look, the car will be painted very dark gunmetal (almost black) i already have the paint... just gotta get all the body work done... will have more pics up soon..

i completly gutted except for the dash. and cut the rear floor out and replaced it with some aluminum sheet metal which will serve as my fuel cell firewall as the fuel cell will be mounted in the stock location...

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and finally riveted in, still have to seam seal the bottom
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[90laser_rst]

Lookin good, cant wait to see more progress

[destroydsm]

heres some pics of the rear end, i also set the taillights in to see how it will look after i blacked them out

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0121.jpg

the laser hatch and filled holes
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heres the trimmed up bumper cover
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[destroydsm]

heres my aluminum door panels i made...
not yet riveted in, self tappers for now to hold it in place to see how they fit..as i will be using diffrent doors
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0118.jpg

door panel and sparco sprint seat, sitting in place for test fit, i made custom aluminum brackets for the seat, ill get some pics of that soon
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0112.jpg

[projecTSI]

Everything looks good, I like the door panels, I plan on doing the same thing, just wrapping it with black leather.

[destroydsm]

Lookin good, cant wait to see more progress

thanks man, well you didnt have to wait long... right after you posted i uploaded a bunch more pics lol as you can see..:banana:

[taylor hindman]

Looks good I like the rear bumper idea I also like the tail lights where did you get the black clear coat?:)

[destroydsm]

Everything looks good, I like the door panels, I plan on doing the same thing, just wrapping it with black leather.

thats a pretty good idea, i was thinking on just painting them black, because there all scratched up, but i think if i just scuff the aluminum you wont notice all the scratches, leather would be sweeeeet tho

[destroydsm]

Looks good I like the rear bumper idea I also like the tail lights where did you get the black clear coat?:)

thanks :) , the tail lights are painted with VHT taillight tint paint i picked up at a local speed shop, i then cleared them with normal clear so they dont fade and last longer.

[dsmskyline]

Looks good, I plan to do the same with the rear floor, bumper looks good.

Thomas
90 TSi AWD

[91bluetalon]

looks good jay, i think you need an msd for it!;)

ps...did you find the shift cables in your fortress?

[b00stedtalon2]

I <3 race cars.

[dsm614]

Me too.. haha

Where did you pick up the black trim that you put around the aluminum?

Looks like it would work for lexan also.

[RSbeast]

Always wanted to try that trim idea, or paint it black where that stuff hangs down...it's so afterthought looking on the talons.

[RSbeast]

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[robcatch]

Loving the trunk and doors dude. What's going on under the hood? :D

[destroydsm]

Me too.. haha

Where did you pick up the black trim that you put around the aluminum?

Looks like it would work for lexan also.

its door edge molding. you can get it at pep boys, i dont think it would work on lexan tho because lexan is to thick

[destroydsm]

Loving the trunk and doors dude. What's going on under the hood? :D


thanks everyone for the complements!:D

going under the hood:
stock 6 bolt rebuilt bottom end with, ported and o ringed head, arps, BC 280s, BC springs and retainers, fidenza cam gears

other mods planned:
erl cast t4 manifold, t4 t67 turbo (not sure yet), tial 44, 1000cc injectors, full fuel system... -8 feed -6 return, bosch 044 pump, 10 gallon aluminum fuel cell. fuel lab fpr... dsmlink or aem..24x12x4 fmic, custom 3 intercooler pipes, jmf smim lots and lots more stuff in the works and planned out..

right now primaly focused on getting the fuel cell finished up, getting S&W 8pt rolll bar ordered and welded up. and the paint and body... i already have the rebuilt motor and o-ringed head, just have to get the head ported..

i also just ordered the 24x12x4 fmic and a bunch of 3 inch aluminum mandrel bends for the intercooler piping, ill get some pics of these bad boys when they come in......:banana:

[White91TalonTsi]

Just curious to why you arn't building the block?, you wont even reach the potential of the T67 with stock rods. Just curious...

Built block would be the 1st thing going into my race car :)

[91bluetalon]

where'd you get a motor from already?

[destroydsm]

Just curious to why you arn't building the block?, you wont even reach the potential of the T67 with stock rods. Just curious...

Built block would be the 1st thing going into my race car :)


because i dont have the money right now, to build it up, so thats whats going in for now, i know i wont get the full potential of the t67, but you cant underestimate the 4g63, people make over 550awhp and 100s of passes on the stock block.. if they can do it so can i. im not looking for much more then that, ill be happy with 500awhp, that in a 2600lb car with slicks. is plenty for me.... if i had the money it would be a diff story, but i make due with what i have...

[destroydsm]

where'd you get a motor from already?

i had the motor that whats in the car right now, ohh and yea i got the shifter cables thanks, so yea if you need my 1gb front fenders let me kno, and i still want that msd off you..

[91bluetalon]

i had the motor that whats in the car right now, ohh and yea i got the shifter cables thanks, so yea if you need my 1gb front fenders let me kno, and i still want that msd off you..

ok cool. and yea i definately need that from bumper and fenders. im getting the car painted soon. oh yea and i work like right down the street from you again. For a company called dynamite fx, right off taunton ave, before cooper.

[chrish1440]

Nice build. But if your going through all of that, you dont think it would be benificail just to go ahead and build the motor? All you really need is a set of ross pistons and eagle rods.

[URBANRCR]

Nice! keep up the good work.

[destroydsm]

Nice build. But if your going through all of that, you dont think it would be benificail just to go ahead and build the motor? All you really need is a set of ross pistons and eagle rods.


yea when i do build the motor it will be eagle rods ross pistons 20 over.. the stock block will have to do for now tho, one thing at a time, this car is not going to be done soon its gonna take alot of time and money, i do what i can when i can... time and money is limited at the moment.

[destroydsm]

well my lower rad support, was all bent and jacked up, literally...so i decided to cut it out, and weld this 1" square tube in..
it also gives me lots of room for intercooler piping.. i just have to weld up brackets for the intercooler and radiator. please excuse the sloppy welds. its a non gas welder that welds like shit...

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[91bluetalon]

sweetness

[destroydsm]

Ok so my FMIC just came in, this thing is huge! 4 inches thick! 24x12x4 :D ,... i also ordered some 3inch aluminum mandrel bends and 4 ply silcone connectors, there nice as hell for what i paid for all of them.. i love new parts now i can fab up the mounting brackets for the intercooler, and mock up the intercooler pipes...

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[destroydsm]

Ive also been getting the body work moving along. I got the whole back half of the car sanded and primed, the top layer of paint had to come off because, it was all chipping and flaking away (must have been a macco paint job) which really sucks because thats alot of extra work to do...

Here are some small parts ive been working on... the side skirts where primed with flexible urathane primer, you need this stuff for all the plastic pieces, it prevents them from flaking and cracking like they always do... you also need to add a flexible addative to the paint once its painted...

i still have the bumpers and other side skirts to sand down and prime...

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i ran out of flexble primer, these guys need another coat!
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[burnnxs]

I would of use bolts for the aluminum panel because rivets will eventually pop if the body flexes.

[destroydsm]

I would of use bolts for the aluminum panel because rivets will eventually pop if the body flexes.


i guess they can, but there are tons of cars out there with riveted panels floors, etc with no problems at all... and lexan windows are riveted in with no problems

[boostin_20lbs]

Are you going to do the diamond plate floor board mod too? Might want to bolt those in...I saw a movie once where the floor just came off after using the "stage 2" of NOS :)

Your build looks good!

[destroydsm]

Are you going to do the diamond plate floor board mod too? Might want to bolt those in...I saw a movie once where the floor just came off after using the "stage 2" of NOS :)

Your build looks good!

hahhaha yea i hate when that happens, especially after shifting into like 9th gear lol

[destroydsm]

well i got fired and my dog died all in the same week so, havent even wanted to look at my car:ugh:

here are some pics of my bumper cover after a lot of sanding and sprayed with flexible primer... take note what it used to look like in the first page of pics, i had to take the top layer of paint and primer off because of the shitty macco paint job that was all flaking off...

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[destroydsm]

sand blasted and painted my motor mounts.. heres a pic, they came out shweeeeet

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heres some fuel goodies
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and my custom guage cluster, not finished yet, still need the tach and 2 5/8 boost guage and some other guages, the ones in there now are just in there so see how its going to look..
http://a171.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/119/l_25c7c2abb3b7faa460068159e86395ea.jpg

[b00stedtalon2]

Looks good. I like the cluster.

[dsm614]

Sweeet...What did you use on the mounts?

Gauge panel looks sweet as well.

[destroydsm]

Looks good. I like the cluster.

Thanks. I cant wait to see how it looks in the car. Im going to go with a 3 3/8" tach on the left and 2 5/8" boost guage on the right. Its going to be sweet!

[destroydsm]

Sweeet...What did you use on the mounts?

Gauge panel looks sweet as well.

On the mounts, I used VHT high temp wrinkle plus(its a normal spray can). The stuff works and looks awsome! Thanks for the complements. :happy:

[projecTSI]

Yeah, those mounts do look good, I might just have to do that on mine.

[destroydsm]

Heres the wrinkle paint. The wrinkles actually tightend up after a few days, So now they look even better then in the pic above.

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I Shaved my valve cover, got AN 8 bungs welded on, and painted it Low gloss black. It came out pretty nice. Heres some pics.

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I also started on my pass. side manual door, i cut out the crash beam and some other metal, took out all the wireing, hole sawed some holes on the bottom (Got that idea from 91tsiguys thread), painted the outside black, and i riveted in my aluminum sheet door panel! Now to do it all over on the driver side door!

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[Jp90Talon]

I like the holes on the bottom of the door. Did that really reduce the weight much. I would think around 1lbs eaach door.

[dsm614]

Yep, your about dead on with the 1lbs...

[destroydsm]

I like the holes on the bottom of the door. Did that really reduce the weight much. I would think around 1lbs eaach door.

I didn't weigh them but your probably right, around 1lb each door, but hey every little bit adds up.

[dsm614]

Well, i did a bunch of small ones to a full door panel and i removed 2lbs,so those on the bottom should weigh in at a pound no problem.

Love the doors! I need to get some more aluminum sheets to do mine now... but I really hate cold/snow.

Anyways, looks amazing!

[MufflerBearing]

I wish i had the capability of working with metal that well. And being able to make it look that clean. Id love to do that to the inside of my doors. Ive got power everything, so not sure how that would work out.

Looks real good.

[dsm614]

Just go at it, you'll be confident on tearing shit up by the time you have to get the crash beam out.. :)

[Jp90Talon]

See we are doing these type of mods to our race car projects. I would strongly suggest that if your DSM is your daily driver or sees alot of time on the street, that you leave the crash beams in. My car does see some street time and for that reason I have 2 sets of doors. One for the street and one for the track.

[destroydsm]

Well, i did a bunch of small ones to a full door panel and i removed 2lbs,so those on the bottom should weigh in at a pound no problem.

Love the doors! I need to get some more aluminum sheets to do mine now... but I really hate cold/snow.

Anyways, looks amazing!

Yea the cold definitly sucks, i dont have a garage and by the time i get done work its dark.:( F%CK WINTER lol.
Thanks for the compliment!

I wish i had the capability of working with metal that well. And being able to make it look that clean. Id love to do that to the inside of my doors. Ive got power everything, so not sure how that would work out.

Looks real good.

Hey you never know until you try. I wasent able to do half the stuff im able to do now, but i just went for it and learned/taught myself threw trial and error and what ive seen other people do. I appriciate your compliments!:)


See we are doing these type of mods to our race car projects. I would strongly suggest that if your DSM is your daily driver or sees alot of time on the street, that you leave the crash beams in. My car does see some street time and for that reason I have 2 sets of doors. One for the street and one for the track.

Yea like jp90talon said if your car is a daily driver, i would leave the beams in for safty, but as for my car the only steet it will see is to and from the track (i live 10 mins away) and the occasional street race.

[destroydsm]

Here is some progress.
I got the pop up headlights and 1ga front end on (or most of it). It was a pain in the ass, cutting and welding required! I also got a lot of the body work finished, Its almost ready to get primed & painted!


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I also stripped down the engine bay so i can prep it for paint, and fill some holes on the top with bondo for a cleaner look.

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I spray painted some of the cross members as well.

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Here is a picture of my motor. (stock re-built, 6-bolt bottom end that will see 500 awhp) :D

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Cleaned and painted up transfer case.

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[b00stedtalon2]

Looking good dude.

[dsm614]

nice work!

[90_talon_matt]

Definately looking like an excellent build. Keep up the good work.

[Pookers]

Cool, just cool.

[91TSiGuy]

Starting to come together nice. Glad you liked the hole saw idea on the bottom of the doors. ;)

[destroydsm]

Thanks everyone for the compliments!:D
Will have lots more pictures soon.

Starting to come together nice. Glad you liked the hole saw idea on the bottom of the doors. ;)
Thanks man, your thread gets me motivated to work on my car, you have a lot of good ideas.

[spyve4]

Did you reinforce the hood latch after welding the support ?

[destroydsm]

Did you reinforce the hood latch after welding the support ?

I didnt weld in the whole 1ga upper support, i only welded up the actual brackets that hold the lower light pieces in. So i didnt really have to worry about the hood latch being reinforced. Im also going to be using hood pins. so it wasent really a concern.

[destroydsm]

Today I finally attacked gutting the drivers side door. This one faught me! my drill bits were to dull, and my cut off wheels were to worn down!
I should have went out and got new ones before i did anything. But oh well i got it done.

I still have to do some body work to the outside of the door, then put it back on the car, get the other fender on and lined up, and mount up the rest of the 1ga front end. fun fun NOT! I hate body work lol im sick of it!

Its ok thought, im almost done all the body work. :rofl:

[flexnuts02]

Yeah body work is always more than you had originally planned it would be... This may have been covered already, are you painting it yourself in that plastic booth you have set up?

[destroydsm]

Yeah body work is always more than you had originally planned it would be... This may have been covered already, are you painting it yourself in that plastic booth you have set up?

Im going to paint it at either my cousin's shop in his paint booth, or just have my buddy chuck do it. He dosent have a paint booth but turns out some very very nice paint jobs out of his garage. (He also has 25 years experience thought.)

[destroydsm]

So i finally finished mounting both light brackets, the driver side door, and fender. Still need to finish body work on pretty much the whole driver side of the car. :mad: I also need to line up the hood, headlight covers, the lower lights. I need to get a front bumper cover, and a fiber glass hood Then i will line it all up better.

But anyway here are some pics from today.

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Finally got both gutted manual doors installed! Sorry for such dark pictures.

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Hood pins on the gutted hatch, and will soon have lexan! :)

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No more holes on the top of the firewall!

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[dsm614]

Keep going!

Looking great.

[greenghost]

that transfer case looks good

[destroydsm]

I also need to get my hands on one of those Jmfab front bumper cover supports.

[boostin_20lbs]

Looks great so far! Keep it up

[91TSiGuy]

I also need to get my hands on one of those Jmfab front bumper cover supports.
Only 2lbs total and a nice non-sagging-ghetto-ziptied bumper cover in the end. They're usually able to be shipped out within a day. ;)

[motorboat]

How much weight do you think youve saved so far?

[destroydsm]

Only 2lbs total and a nice non-sagging-ghetto-ziptied bumper cover in the end. They're usually able to be shipped out within a day. ;)

Yea i def need to get one, i have to wait thought, ive been so tight on money.:( I havent been able to get any parts lately, damn bills!
It looks like an awsome product!

How much weight do you think youve saved so far?

Let's see, ive been wanting to add some of the weights up.

1G Bumper Rear. 32lbs
1G Bumper Front. 35lbs
1G OEM Seats Front. 100lbs
1G Front Seat Belt Assembly. 30lbs
1G Rear Seat Belt Assemblies, Speakers and mounting plates. 18lbs
1G OEM Seats Rear Seats. 40lbs
Sound Material Inside Car. 25lbs
Spare Tire and Jack. 35lbs
Stereo. 10lbs
Stock tool bag and tools. 2lbs
Spare tire cover, privacy cover etc 20lbs
Cruise Control. 6lbs
Various Brackets Firewall brackets, Intake, air can, heat shields etc. 10lbs
Under car heat shields 5 lbs.
Center console 10 lbs.
Fuel tank -45 lbs plus 10 for cell = 35 lbs saved.
Aluminum sheet rear floor, save 15 lbs.
Plus 40 for both gutted doors. 40 lbs

That all equals. 468lbs saved so far.
Right now im around 2630lbs

THEN.
I will save 30lbs for gutted lexan hatch.
I will save 35lbs on fiber glass hood.
I will save 30lbs on light wheels.
That equals 95lbs saved

So im looking at around 2537 with out me in it.
Im sure there are a lot more things i left out, so this is all an estimate! Plus im going to have to add weight when i get the cage in. Plus 20lbs for my race bucket and seat brackets.

SO THERE IS MY ROUGH ESTIMATE. :D

Lol
Wow, now my brian hurts!

[destroydsm]

I dont know the weights of these, i couldnt get that prostreetonline dsm weights list link to work.

If anyone has that list please send it to me! :cool:

I fergot to subtract the weight for:

Power steering & brackets.
ABS removal.
AC removal.
Heater core all the heater crap.
Glove box.
Plactic wheel well pieces.
Pop up head light assembly

[partemisio]

Nice job on the car so far. Here are the weights. I copy pasted them of this thread:http: //www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135843&page=4&highlight=doors+manual+power

This list starts with the base model, Mid model, and then turbo FWD and Turbo AWD
1G Talon / Eclipse :2550 /2712 / 2791 / 3108
1G Laser : 2530 / 2690 / 2745 / 3073
2G Talon/Eclipse : No base model / 2842-2906 / 2921-2998 / 3157-3234
Galant VR-4 :Only AWD Turbo/ 3295
Eclipse Spyder :Only mid model and FWD turbo model / 2888- 2943 / 3053-3142

Stock Exterior weights
1ga side windows 10lbs a-piece
1ga Hatch Glass 25lbs
1ga windshield glass 30lbs.
1ga hatch 25lbs. (without wing)
1ga wraparound talon wing 20lbs.
1ga hood 44lbs.
1ga pop-up headlights units (brackets, motors, etc...) 17lbs.
Front bumper 35lbs.
Rear Bumper 32lbs.
Fog Lights 5lbs.
Rear wiper assembly 5lbs.
1g exhaust ESTIMATED 40lbs.
1g (small piston) brake system, calipers, rotors all lines and e-brake handle 47lbs.
1g small calipers 12lbs. per side...
1g big brake twin piston calipers 14lbs. per side...
Front big brake rotor 13lbs.
1g gas tank heat sheild is somewhere between 5-8 lbs.
1ga Door crash beams 15lbs.
hood latch/support/cable 15lbs (Sounds like a very high estimate to me, I'd guess they weigh less)
stock gas tank, lines, fill neck, filter 45lbs.
1ga doors 60lbs.
Exhaust heat shields 5lbs.
1g OEM K-Member 35lbs.
Driveshaft 25lbs.
LSD rear differential /no axles 44lbs.
Front stabilizer bar 7lbs.

Interior part weights.
1ga drivers seat 50lbs. (cloth)
1ga passenger seat 40lbs. (cloth)
1ga rear seat 30lbs. (cloth)
1ga Seat belt assemblies front and rear 50lbs.
Spare tire/jack/tools 37lbs.
Floor mats 6lbs.
1ga front carpeting 15lbs.
1ga total interior sound deadening 25lbs.
air conditioning/heater assembly under dash 25lbs.
Speakers and stereo 15lbs.
Glovebox 5lbs.
Dash w/vent ducting and upper dash harness 22lbs.
Center Console 5lbs.
2g seat/lower portion 10lbs.
1g stock steering wheel 4.5lbs.

Engine Bay part Weights.
Air conditioning unit/brackets 35lbs.
stock battery 40lbs.
charcoal canister 3lbs.
power steering system 10lbs. (not including rack)
1ga cruise control assembly 7lbs.
Balance shafts 6lbs.
Firewall brackets, Intake, air can, heat shields etc. 10lbs.
1g awd trans complete 125lbs. Includes brackets
1g fwd trans complete 90lbs. Includes brackets
radiator (plastic) 5lbs
radiator (metal) 6lbs.
Radiator fans (each) 6lbs.
1g intake manifold 11lbs.
1g awd flywheel 19lbs.

Wheel weights
16" steel 1G - 28lbs
16" alloy 1G - 19lbs
16" mesh 1G - 19lbs
16" alloy 2G - 22lbs
17" alloy 2G - 25lbs

Aftermarket Replacement Part weights (varies by manufacturer obviously, only to be used as a guestimate!)
CF hood ~11lbs (pin on front, bolt on rear)
FG hatch, no glass ~7lbs (pin on from FranksCustomFiberglass)
Fiberglass 1ga doors 8lbs. a piece (harry's glass)
Hatch speedglass/lexan 7 lbs
TCE brake kit (Wilwood billet superlite 4 piston caliper) 4lbs. a piece
Kirkey aluminum bucket Seats 14 lbs.
Summit Drag Racing Seat w/cover & brackets 18lbs.
Custom Tubular K-Member 15lbs. Where to get it...pm the man http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hand...-arms-etc.html
ACT Chromoly 6 bolt AWD flywheel 11.5lbs.
Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel 8-9lbs.

[destroydsm]

Nice job on the car so far. Here are the weights. I copy pasted them of this thread:http: //www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=135843&page=4&highlight=doors+manual+power

This list starts with the base model, Mid model, and then turbo FWD and Turbo AWD
1G Talon / Eclipse :2550 /2712 / 2791 / 3108
1G Laser : 2530 / 2690 / 2745 / 3073
2G Talon/Eclipse : No base model / 2842-2906 / 2921-2998 / 3157-3234
Galant VR-4 :Only AWD Turbo/ 3295
Eclipse Spyder :Only mid model and FWD turbo model / 2888- 2943 / 3053-3142

Stock Exterior weights
1ga side windows 10lbs a-piece
1ga Hatch Glass 25lbs
1ga windshield glass 30lbs.
1ga hatch 25lbs. (without wing)
1ga wraparound talon wing 20lbs.
1ga hood 44lbs.
1ga pop-up headlights units (brackets, motors, etc...) 17lbs.
Front bumper 35lbs.
Rear Bumper 32lbs.
Fog Lights 5lbs.
Rear wiper assembly 5lbs.
1g exhaust ESTIMATED 40lbs.
1g (small piston) brake system, calipers, rotors all lines and e-brake handle 47lbs.
1g small calipers 12lbs. per side...
1g big brake twin piston calipers 14lbs. per side...
Front big brake rotor 13lbs.
1g gas tank heat sheild is somewhere between 5-8 lbs.
1ga Door crash beams 15lbs.
hood latch/support/cable 15lbs (Sounds like a very high estimate to me, I'd guess they weigh less)
stock gas tank, lines, fill neck, filter 45lbs.
1ga doors 60lbs.
Exhaust heat shields 5lbs.
1g OEM K-Member 35lbs.
Driveshaft 25lbs.
LSD rear differential /no axles 44lbs.
Front stabilizer bar 7lbs.

Interior part weights.
1ga drivers seat 50lbs. (cloth)
1ga passenger seat 40lbs. (cloth)
1ga rear seat 30lbs. (cloth)
1ga Seat belt assemblies front and rear 50lbs.
Spare tire/jack/tools 37lbs.
Floor mats 6lbs.
1ga front carpeting 15lbs.
1ga total interior sound deadening 25lbs.
air conditioning/heater assembly under dash 25lbs.
Speakers and stereo 15lbs.
Glovebox 5lbs.
Dash w/vent ducting and upper dash harness 22lbs.
Center Console 5lbs.
2g seat/lower portion 10lbs.
1g stock steering wheel 4.5lbs.

Engine Bay part Weights.
Air conditioning unit/brackets 35lbs.
stock battery 40lbs.
charcoal canister 3lbs.
power steering system 10lbs. (not including rack)
1ga cruise control assembly 7lbs.
Balance shafts 6lbs.
Firewall brackets, Intake, air can, heat shields etc. 10lbs.
1g awd trans complete 125lbs. Includes brackets
1g fwd trans complete 90lbs. Includes brackets
radiator (plastic) 5lbs
radiator (metal) 6lbs.
Radiator fans (each) 6lbs.
1g intake manifold 11lbs.
1g awd flywheel 19lbs.

Wheel weights
16" steel 1G - 28lbs
16" alloy 1G - 19lbs
16" mesh 1G - 19lbs
16" alloy 2G - 22lbs
17" alloy 2G - 25lbs

Aftermarket Replacement Part weights (varies by manufacturer obviously, only to be used as a guestimate!)
CF hood ~11lbs (pin on front, bolt on rear)
FG hatch, no glass ~7lbs (pin on from FranksCustomFiberglass)
Fiberglass 1ga doors 8lbs. a piece (harry's glass)
Hatch speedglass/lexan 7 lbs
TCE brake kit (Wilwood billet superlite 4 piston caliper) 4lbs. a piece
Kirkey aluminum bucket Seats 14 lbs.
Summit Drag Racing Seat w/cover & brackets 18lbs.
Custom Tubular K-Member 15lbs. Where to get it...pm the man http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/hand...-arms-etc.html
ACT Chromoly 6 bolt AWD flywheel 11.5lbs.
Fidanza Aluminum Flywheel 8-9lbs.


Awsome! thanks.

[quique_7]

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[destroydsm]

So i havent done much latly, my air compressor broke and dont want to sand the car by hand.

Im getting the rest of the primer and paint in the next week, i decided to go to a single stage instead of a base-clear, the paint dosent have to be 100% perfect but trust me its going to look really really good, Alot better the most cars out there! I cant wait to paint it.

Here is the color for the car, its pretty much black but with metallic in it, then the hood, roof, and hatch will go gloss black! Its gonna look awsome. Its going to be stealth as hell, black GTS Headlight covers, tail lights all blacked out, black wheels, almost everything in the engine bay will be black. I love it, cant wait till its done.

http://a442.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/l_45cd648bec7ccc71f7604ab939a6ec69.jpg

[URBANRCR]

Nice,keep up the good work!

[91TSiGuy]

Sweet color, but skip on the GTS covers. They come off in car washes and look kind of tacky. Just spray tint the lights if you're going to do that, but I think clear all up front on a dark car will be nice too.

[destroydsm]

Sweet color, but skip on the GTS covers. They come off in car washes and look kind of tacky. Just spray tint the lights if you're going to do that, but I think clear all up front on a dark car will be nice too.


Thanks for the input, yea im really digging the color, cant wait to spray the car.:D And yea i might just spray tint the lights like i did my tails.
Spray tint is alot cheaper then the gts covers. I did want to be able to take the covers off when i want, but dont want them randomly falling off. Hmmm And clear looks good too, just wont go with the all dark theme im going for.
I do like how Garychois's car looks with them, looks like he riveted his in so they dont fall off.

http://garychios.com/images/Pictures/img_1454.jpg

[destroydsm]

Nice,keep up the good work!

Thanks! Will do. :cool:

[VisionPaintball]

Nice!
What brand paint are you using?

[destroydsm]

Nice!
What brand paint are you using?

There called "Trinity", they are very very reasonably priced with the same quality as alot of the top brands.

[91TSiGuy]

I'm going to guess Gary doesn't have any of the stock lights behind those at all and did them as a weight saving cosmetic issue. I need to check out his site and see what's new.

[destroydsm]

I'm going to guess Gary doesn't have any of the stock lights behind those at all and did them as a weight saving cosmetic issue. I need to check out his site and see what's new.

Yea you are right, i looked at his site again and he mounted the covers directly to the bumper cover, with no lights beind the GTS covers at all.

Def check out his site updates! Crazy custom ford 8.8 rear end pics!:eek: :eek:

On my car i hacked the pop-up headlight assembly so i can just use the mounting points for the headlight covers and fix them in place, Im going to be using some small aftermarket headlamps in there place and have them shine threw the bottom light pieces, that is why i wanted the GTS covers so i can take them off at night so the headlights dont have to shine threw black, yet have them black during the day.

http://a786.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/122/l_901784037c5af22eca33bb8c6677dd81.jpg

http://a313.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/86/l_ceb5929304aab76c1691ec82751555d8.jpg

http://a391.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/109/l_e7570ab9ded60f2b5a648a8f80cd290e.jpg

I dont have the new headlights yet but they will be mounted like this. (the old DSMotorsports car)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v227/Braindamaged0386/Yellow%20Talon/DSC_0031.jpg

[95RedRS]

Hey Thats My Car!!!.

If you ever need any help I'll be glad to come over!

[destroydsm]

I finally got my car in the garage. No more shitty tent with no room! Haha

http://a597.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/7/l_1a09fc1a5fc683db505d6bc423fa2ac4.jpg


I pulled the dash out and removed the entire Interior harness. Im going to make my own harness with just headlights, tail lights, turn signals, start, etc, NOT GOING TO BE FUN. But i only want whats needed.

http://a947.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/88/l_bd7e6de54b4e7bf02a5194a914e9cbe2.jpg


Gutted hatch, not finished yet.
http://a312.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/99/l_dcfcc07bab7e7e703c581b9896e3535f.jpg


I swapped out the pins i had on the hatch for these locking carbon fiber pieces.
http://a355.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/58/l_74391d9d76758cfc06fd5eed92450792.jpg
http://a179.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/82/l_3a072554fb6ce5bb62b7f6017aebcf42.jpg
http://a222.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/70/l_4a59f50375eb23900ab2acfca0100285.jpg
http://a683.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/2/l_8ab7b3c125c253eb72ffad1aadf8079a.jpg


Check out that ass!
http://a130.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/37/l_89310a3fe714f316ee32dcb4a0097a49.jpg


I Finally cleaned out all of the tools and crap from the back of the car and removed the spot welded in brackets for the seats, rear latch assembly, etc)

http://a813.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/11/l_7e226ca946cf38a6dce079dc7d2990a4.jpg


Finally a cleaner view!

http://a107.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/20/l_3be07b6db60634a20379c0809bc69e9a.jpg


Here are the seat brackets i made for the sparco sprint seat. (Im short, so thats why there so tall) lol

http://a34.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/35/l_0c87145ef8dad658a27eaca0ef955991.jpg
http://a534.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/120/l_0d927fe07b4e0f34e7ff587bc88724e5.jpg


I painted the brake booster up. Bling bloww.

http://a306.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/28/l_27a18beec2725b0d0279fb6430499139.jpg


Here are the last few things i have to do on the bodywork. This is going to be fun fixing. :mad: Its ok it dosent have to be perfect because the side trim covers it up. ;)

And im going to have to try and straighten out the pinch weld along the bottom of the car. It is all bent up from one of the previous owners jacking up the car.:chair:

http://a21.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/54/l_df19ec7e8d2641814fcb87930d0918f4.jpg
http://a320.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/55/l_67e066f8f2e388a789c02badbc75b3bf.jpg

This spot was so wavy so i grinded it down only to find lot of bondo, it was hit here im guessing and covered up very badly, I then layed this new bondo. Still needs alot of work, alot of high and low spots. :mad: Body work is never ending!

http://a707.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/44/l_6441959176d147726e3f802f3c1e88da.jpg

Its ok tho, it will all be worth it in the end when the car get painted. :cool:

[destroydsm]

Hey Thats My Car!!!.

If you ever need any help I'll be glad to come over!

Same here man, i would be glad to come help you as well. What are the plans for that thing? That is the only yellow car i ever liked, It used to look so bad ass with those monster tires sticking out of the sides that they used to run. Whatever happen to them are they out of buisness?

[95RedRS]

http://nathancrisman.smugmug.com/photos/267997993_4cAqa-M.jpg

Like That?? :)

I have pretty Big Plans...I'm shooting for Tens, The only thing that sucks Is I have No room to work on it...I live in an apartment complex...So basically When I wanna assemble everything I gotta hope they dont bitch, Or I gotta find somewhere to do all the work...Right now I'm gathering all the parts needed and sending out the motor to get built...Hopefully By Late summer it starts to get assembled.

You car looks good though!!!

[91TSiGuy]

Whatever happen to them are they out of buisness?
Nate sold the business and I'm not too sure what the new owners have been up to with it.

[wolfezx]

awesome build! im doing my own right now as well.

i also plan to make my own harness from scratch, but i am terrible at wiring. i really dont even know what all i need to have the car just RUN. i dont know what relays and switches i need to keep :(

[destroydsm]

Hey fellas, finally got my tax return and just ordered my primer and paint, as well as a new belt for my air compressor. So the car should be primed and paint in no time. :D :D :D

[wolfezx]

Hey fellas, finally got my tax return and just ordered my primer and paint, as well as a new belt for my air compressor. So the car should be primed and paint in no time. :D :D :D


how do you plan on wiring the car? from scratch? or will you with a painless setup, or a summit knock off painless setup( i hear theyre a bit easier and cheaper)

fill me on on the wiring!! my car is at the same spot as yours right now, and thats about to be my next step

[destroydsm]

how do you plan on wiring the car? from scratch? or will you with a painless setup, or a summit knock off painless setup( i hear theyre a bit easier and cheaper)

fill me on on the wiring!! my car is at the same spot as yours right now, and thats about to be my next step

Oh yea. Sorry man i was meaning to reply to you.

Yea i was going to build it from sratch but i think im going to do a summit one, ill be fine wiring everything up except Start and the Alternator. So ill have to order some kinda kit for them. Im OK at wiring, not great, but im sure ill figure it out. Sorry for not getting back to you right away. Let me know what you end up doing. Got any pics of your build? If so send me a link or email to

JODesign@live.com

[wolfezx]

Oh yea. Sorry man i was meaning to reply to you.

Yea i was going to build it from sratch but i think im going to do a summit one, ill be fine wiring everything up except Start and the Alternator. So ill have to order some kinda kit for them. Im OK at wiring, not great, but im sure ill figure it out. Sorry for not getting back to you right away. Let me know what you end up doing. Got any pics of your build? If so send me a link or email to

JODesign@live.com

ill send ya some pics here soon. im a little embarrassed right now after looking at your progress. basically i havent started the build, just stripped it all down. my car right now honestly as bare as it can get. the only things left in the car is the rear subframe and rearend.

[Gooberlog]

Project looks like its coming along great. For more weight savings you could remove those pepboys clutch/brake/throttle pedal covers.

[destroydsm]

Project looks like its coming along great. For more weight savings you could remove those pepboys clutch/brake/throttle pedal covers.

Thanks. Haha yea there comming off. Not because of the weight tho, because of the RICE factor. I Managed to gut the intire car except for them and some air freshners hanging from the mirror. Lol

[destroydsm]

Well finally got all the paint.:D The color is amazing, its alot darker then i thought it was gonna be but i like it better!

Im going to be running a fiber glass pin on hood with 4 hood pins and i really wasent feeling the chrome, paper then scuff pads that came with my hood pins. So i got these bad boys! There anodized black scuff pads and are wayy thicker then the ones it came with. And are gonna look awsome and go with the all dark theme of the car.

http://a190.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/117/l_a7021b7f2e94c88b532b4539e56d73f5.jpg


All the body work is pretty much complete just a few spots left. Here is that rear quarter that was giving me trouble with all the waves and dents. Had to use alottt of bondo. (the other side was the same way:mad: )

http://a83.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/45/l_789fbd194cb2138fadab72736eb11ffa.jpg

http://a909.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/91/l_2fa69f4ae80847c166f138fa3a12eeac.jpg


Some spotts on the door, need to be sanded.

http://a407.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/100/l_142de6f9d849122c535ff14fca077336.jpg

I also did some more work on the firewall. Its almost PRIMEr Time! :cool:

And i fixed my air compressor, got a filter/water seperator, masking paper, masking tape, and also some painter plastic so i can mask the car and other stuff off.

All i need now is to buy my own spray gun, and getterrrdone!

[destroydsm]

By the way as you can see this is a BUDGET build, just to show you that it dosent always take the biggest badest set-up and the most money to build a beautiful, show like quality, Fast car, done tastefully.

It dosent always take the biggest wallet to build a nice, quick car.

Its not even about how fast your car is or how much HP you put out, Its the fact that you love cars and you enjoy building, fabbing, tuning, etc your own car. Its somthing you create, and you can look back when its all done and take pride in saying that you built that car from the ground up.

[91TSiGuy]

Awesome motto. :rockon:

[dsm614]

By the way as you can see this is a BUDGET build, just to show you that it dosent always take the biggest badest set-up and the most money to build a beautiful, show like quality, Fast car, done tastefully.

It dosent always take the biggest wallet to build a nice, quick car.

Its not even about how fast your car is or how much HP you put out, Its the fact that you love cars and you enjoy building, fabbing, tuning, etc your own car. Its somthing you create, and you can look back when its all done and take pride in saying that you built that car from the ground up.

exactly man, same approach I'm taking with my build, its nice not having a deadline and just doing your best... while finding great deals on parts.

loving the build so far.

[destroydsm]

A bunch of pics of the paint!:happy:
Such a sick color!

http://a62.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/3/l_7901ef38c0fcc66a9d4ad8d6149cb20d.jpg

http://a829.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/l_67f766f9acc86dff1deddb0c42b59dbc.jpg

http://a826.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/77/l_7811d01a6cda4005b7c9d83069254681.jpg

Reflection.
http://a698.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/120/l_ed9be6d5b40cd7cc3418d5659f621ef9.jpg

http://a86.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/85/l_6dcc37aa208ad15112535b1f399278a5.jpg

http://a464.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_098e924227166db0ed7a9c2693038987.jpg

[destroydsm]

So i primed the engine bay tonight, i missed a few spots and am going to do another coat tommaro when i prime the rest of the car. Heres a few pics. :cool:


http://a579.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/87/l_3cc675bff654071a3e59fbd14a9fdf6a.jpg

http://a585.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/104/l_380d126943a74592f72e90dca5adb2d0.jpg

http://a825.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/118/l_50a5e69586fdaaf5577f90a891d35408.jpg

http://a256.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/79/l_274fdd97f7a89cdb38e9f2a213ed023f.jpg

http://a537.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/72/l_d4ef881fcaf996bfccf059d68cee99d0.jpg

[dsm614]

Sweet!

[destroydsm]

So i got the rest of the car primed today!!!, time to start wet sanding. Still need to prime sideskirts a bumper tho, but its comming along...:rofl:

Camera is being gay so pics soon!.

[dsm614]

Haha.. TEASE!

[destroydsm]

Im pretty excited, i got some small pieces of the car painted. I did them first to see how the paint goes on ,like test peices, and they came out awsome!!..

After i did them, i prepped the engine bay and sprayed it... Came out niceeee.
:happy:
The paint looks black untill you get some light on it. I love it! I cant wait to spray the rest of the car. Ill get some pics of the car in primer as well, just needs alittle more wet sanding and it will be good to go.

http://a839.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_1cf2354af9bba9e24c6ea4f55fc35e0e.jpg

http://a617.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/8/l_bcac11a738d79795ca6a5e745a3c5718.jpg

http://a874.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/5/l_e8e6dc29ab7d823e11d2245e07d09bc1.jpg

http://a6.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/30/l_b4d7ff9a0e8d9bbdf704712a58f3d30d.jpg


And now to the engine bay!! :P

http://a398.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/53/l_e4a2e63bc468560d18e62a39f284a0fd.jpg

http://a442.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/49/l_ae5c47eef41fdcc98303f7cb2fb454d9.jpg

http://a299.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/55/l_404953b620a27afcb9ebc1d19b923562.jpg

http://a264.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/64/l_a4b994a167cdd5652b5e225135923667.jpg

http://a658.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/l_4d3c87e570d6b645fdc0ed2cf42e6619.jpg

http://a592.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/50/l_7ae7755a6fb0e7cf20bb634670aa731f.jpg

http://a633.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/41/l_af4e2710f7439b92f1fad7c8b0db6e58.jpg

http://a492.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/51/l_55afd41cf65df7cd83b2409959a95d9b.jpg

[partemisio]

Nice job. I wish I knew how to paint.

[91TSiGuy]

Looking really good man. I definitely can appreciate the work you're putting into this from first hand. ;)

[16G_tsi_awd]

Oh my god I love that color! Nice car man. And glad to see your using a true DSM power plant. I look forward to seeing you hit 500HP+

[dsm614]

Looks great man!

Trust me I cant wait to do mine now!

[destroydsm]

Nice job. I wish I knew how to paint.
Thanks man, this is my first time. :o


Looking really good man. I definitely can appreciate the work you're putting into this from first hand. ;)
Thanks Brent, Body and paint is such a pain in the ass isent it! Im just glad all the time and work is finally starting to pay off. :cool:


Oh my god I love that color! Nice car man. And glad to see your using a true DSM power plant. I look forward to seeing you hit 500HP+

Yea the color is the shizzznit! haha. I cant wait to get the motor in now. :rolleyes:


Looks great man!

Trust me I cant wait to do mine now!

Thanks your going red again arent you? I still need to clean my wheel wells up like you did on yours.

[URBANRCR]

Good job!

[greenstreak]

Very nice budget build up. Makes you really appreciate the car when you work this hard on it.

Gorgeous color and the firewall looks great cleaned up.

I'll ask the mods to move this to the new builds section.

[destroydsm]

Very nice budget build up. Makes you really appreciate the car when you work this hard on it.

Gorgeous color and the firewall looks great cleaned up.

I'll ask the mods to move this to the new builds section.

Thanks man, Lol I sat and just looked at the engine bay when it was finish for like 10 mins lol and was like damn that looks good, all that sanding prepping and BS work was all worth it. Def makes you really appreciate it.

Thanks for the kind words!, and yea if you get me on the build thread that would be awsome, I now have 50 post so i dont see why not.
Thanks.

So mods hook a brother up!! Haha ;)

[dsm614]

Thanks your going red again arent you? I still need to clean my wheel wells up like you did on yours.

I think it will be color changed, i'm not really into the red color.

[destroydsm]

Yea im not a big fan of red. i like dark colors.

[XTAGEX]

Gorgeous color!!! great budget build!! keep it up.

[k1tty]

That is looking very awesome :) Can't wait to see it all done and in the light!

[destroydsm]

That is looking very awesome :) Can't wait to see it all done and in the light!
Gorgeous color!!! great budget build!! keep it up.


Thanks! Yea its going to look sick in the sun light!:D



Anyways, I got some more progress done... I painted the rear hatch HOD ROD black as well the jams of the hatch and also the lower windshield metal trim. The contrast between the metallic black and the hodrod black looks amazing!

I will also be painting my fiber glass hood the same color, but i didnt buy it yet.

So ill get a few pics up tommaro.

[destroydsm]

Hatch painted HodRod black.
http://a184.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/37/l_3e51cc20cd60000e835750d662cb49ff.jpg

http://a92.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/58/l_7f6f17c259b7eb8a771c227f82b4a8ab.jpg

http://a18.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/37/l_d1a828ece25ddca120812ba3be865a81.jpg


Lower windshield trim Painted HodRod black..

http://a540.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/17/l_1dd3e63737535aa93e747c9f62f7702b.jpg

http://a153.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/24/l_f8a1b33b465239ee666c7f767134bbc0.jpg


Hatch jams painted HodRod black.

http://a706.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/60/l_d420f4b8009ea91c73cde584a92b02c9.jpg

http://a333.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/63/l_c84b19cc4bb910a54c1dec7293251eac.jpg

[Black_ bullet]

Wow awsome build, I love the paint, and the rear bumper is pretty cool !

[PC Talon]

Nice build so far, keep up the good work!

[destroydsm]

Nice build so far, keep up the good work!

Thanks, its comming along. Im going to shoot the body in a few days!


So no one likes the semi flat black? I love it.

[destroydsm]

Wow awsome build, I love the paint, and the rear bumper is pretty cool !

Thanks your car look pretty bad ass, all black laser with no spoiler.:cool:

[destroydsm]

So i painted the car the other day!

Here are some teaser shots! Ill get better pics after i wet sand and buff it out!
Still have to spray the sideskirts/bumper cover and stuff and then install them along with all the trim pieces. And going to paint the interior as well.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0180.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0176.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0177.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0182.jpg

Also shot the brake booster semiflat hodrod black as well as the strut tower bar. Then installed the brake booster and the weather stripping on top of firewall.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0173.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0174.jpg

[91TSiGuy]

Sweet. Progress is looking good.

[partemisio]

Nice job.

Somebody needs to make a how-to on prepping and painting so I can try it on mine.

[URBANRCR]

The paint came out great. Im looking forward to seeing it in the sun.

[destroydsm]

Nice job.

Somebody needs to make a how-to on prepping and painting so I can try it on mine.

Yea im glad i had a good go-to guy with 25 years experiance for questons and little tips and stuff. And working with him he taught me alot.

The paint came out great. Im looking forward to seeing it in the sun.

Yee me too! i cant wait!. I put so much time into it cant wait to see the end result.

[destroydsm]

So i got the drivers side of the car wet sanded and buffed! I need to redo the front fender tho :mad:, I burned threw a few little spots! DOHHHH! But it'll be ok, i still have to shoot all the sideskirts and and the bumper covers, I will just re-shoot the fender when i do them!

The rest turned out really good! and got it to a mirror like finish :). Very glossy for a single stage paint. :D

Its just really hard to get the orange peel and imperfections out, without going to far.

I have some pics of it wet sanded and buffed, but lost my camera somewhere in my garage:mad: And cant find it for the life of me. lol I'll try to find it and post some pics up soon!

I still have ALOT of work to to before im done with the body and paint. I HATE BODY AND PAINT! lol, way to time consuming. Soo sick of it, Im going to order my motor mounts so i can put the motor in, some actual wrenching! I havent touched a wrench in the last few months. lol, Need to do somthin mechanical. Lol

[destroydsm]

Heres a few spots wet sanded and buffed.
Notice the reflectiton. lol
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5138.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5144.jpg

Blacked out tail lights wet sanded and buffed.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5141.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5142.jpg

Finally sprayed the sideskirts and rear bumper.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5149.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5159.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5162.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5155.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5157.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5152.jpg

[dsm614]

I know its only a few pictures but i also know it was a LOT of work.

STILL looking great!

[b00stedtalon2]

Awesome!!!

[91TSiGuy]

How well were you able to keep the dust down when spraying? Did you wet down the floors or do something else?

PS: Got your email. ;)

[destroydsm]

I know its only a few pictures but i also know it was a LOT of work.

STILL looking great!

Awesome!!!

Thanks fellas!

How well were you able to keep the dust down when spraying? Did you wet down the floors or do something else?

PS: Got your email. ;)

I blew the whole garage out with the air compressor including the walls then used plastic sheet and i covered everything, tool boxes, workbench, and one wall of the garage that has shelves. Then wet the floors real good, And had a badass fan blowing out all the overspray. When i sprayed the car and the engine bay there was little to no dust. There was quite a bit when i did the sideskirts, i guess i didnt clean it out enough. Oh well nothing wet sanding and buffing wont fix.:rolleyes:
Im just just glad im almost done with the paint!!

Oh and thanks again, let me know about that email! :cool:

[trinistylz2002]

Gangsta!!! :tat: Black is beautiful!

[destroydsm]

So to get my mind off the paint work I was adding up some more weights for parts removed/and added, and i will be looking at around 2400lbs!!! But thats with out the cage and me in it. Im going to guess the cage will be around 100 plus i only weigh like 140lbs. So that should put me right at my target weight of 2600lbs with me in it.:D The lighter the better!

The wheels im getting are 15x7 and 12lbs each and are replica rota wheels.(Drag17) For the price you cant beat it! Im going to paint them all gloss black. Here is a pic i photoshoped!
For tires im going to go with a 235/60/15 BFG drag radial. I wanted to go with the MT street radials but there heavy as hell!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/DR_16_GUN_METAL_FRONT1.jpg

[dsm614]

Hell yea, those will be sick on a drag car.

Might want to clean those wheel wells up while your in there...:)

I just did one whole side and the rear wheel last night, takes a few hours with a die grinder and heavy duty wire wheel.

Then, you can either paint them ( who doesn't like shiny wheel wells? ) or flat black them like the pro street build 2Gon this website.

Ill update my thread later with pics of the mess I made. :)

[godchsr]

I am such a prick because I am finding myself getting pissed reading ths thread BECAUSE I so badly want to see this car in the daylight with a good picture! :)

Seriously, this is a terrific build. I am curious as to how you got the holes in the hatch (from the spoiler) to close up so smoothly.?.? When I tried to weld my shut (Z32TT) it just arped the hell out of the sheet metal enough to where I might just replace the hatch all together.
Tip?

[destroydsm]

Hell yea, those will be sick on a drag car.

Might want to clean those wheel wells up while your in there...:)

I just did one whole side and the rear wheel last night, takes a few hours with a die grinder and heavy duty wire wheel.

Then, you can either paint them ( who doesn't like shiny wheel wells? ) or flat black them like the pro street build 2Gon this website.

Ill update my thread later with pics of the mess I made. :)

Yea im gonna shoot my wheel wells semi-gloss black, flat gets to dirty and is hard to clean. Im going to go to napa and get a badass wirewheel for my 4 1/2 angle grinder and go to town. Get pics of yours up, I wanna see how it comes out! Thanks for the great idea.

I am such a prick because I am finding myself getting pissed reading ths thread BECAUSE I so badly want to see this car in the daylight with a good picture! :)

Seriously, this is a terrific build. I am curious as to how you got the holes in the hatch (from the spoiler) to close up so smoothly.?.? When I tried to weld my shut (Z32TT) it just arped the hell out of the sheet metal enough to where I might just replace the hatch all together.
Tip?

Yea imagine how i feel doing all this work! I cant wait to see it in the sunlight! lol I have some teaser shots of the rear end!! And a pretty good shot in the sunlight.

I have a laser hatch with no holes. And as for the other holes on the body, (spoiler holes, antenna hole) I dented in the area around the holes and then bondoed over them. That way it gives the bondo a place to sit in, and turns out very nice without having to weld and risk warping.



Here are a few pics of the rear end buffed! Still have ALOT to do. ENJOY! :)
(And no the car is not registerd, those plates are from the previous owner.)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0191.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0189.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0190.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0192.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0194.jpg


Here is a small part in the sun!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0195.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0196.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0197.jpg


Here is how i mounted the headlight covers with no pop up assembly!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0210.jpg


Painted intercooler core in duplicolor Metallic black! Pretty much matches the car.;)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0205.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/000_0201.jpg

[destroydsm]

One sexy ass isent it?. Haha.

[b00stedtalon2]

One sexy ass isent it?. Haha.
X2. Great job! :tree:

[destroydsm]

Thanks!

[destroydsm]

Havent been able to do too much latly. So no new pics yet, but dont worry will have pics of the paint job outside and all finished soon.

I also just ordered up my S&W 10-point mild steel cage.:D
Cant wait to start that project! Then once thats in i can get the interior painted.

[dsm614]

Cant wait, weird because I was just discussing my cage build tonight on how I want to do it.

[4g64fiero]

Havent been able to do too much latly. So no new pics yet, but dont worry will have pics of the paint job outside and all finished soon.

I also just ordered up my S&W 10-point mild steel cage.:D
Cant wait to start that project! Then once thats in i can get the interior painted.
I did the wiring on my car first but we pretty much have the same plans, I was gonna flat black my car with gloss black accents.

If you need any wiring diagrams let me know.;)

[blue_gsx]

I am also planning on ditching the pop ups and was trying to find pics of what people do to keep them down.

Well now i know what i will be doing.

[destroydsm]

Cant wait, weird because I was just discussing my cage build tonight on how I want to do it.
Hey great minds think alike! Are you going to do an S&W or have it bent up custom? I must say S&W is the way to go, 250$ for everything. Just cut to size and weld up.

I did the wiring on my car first but we pretty much have the same plans, I was gonna flat black my car with gloss black accents.

If you need any wiring diagrams let me know.;)

Flat black with gloss accents will look bad ass. And on my wiring, i decided im scraping the entire interior harness, and going with a painless or summit universal 12-circuit harnesses. I dont feel like going threw the stock one and only using what i need seems like it would be real pain in the ass.

I am also planning on ditching the pop ups and was trying to find pics of what people do to keep them down.

Well now i know what i will be doing.

Yea man just cut up the stock assembly, bolt it in the normal way and weld or bolt in a support in the front to hold it down. And thats that.;)

[95RedRS]

I'm jealous I wish i had a garage to work on mine in...It would be ALOT further along than it is...(which is Nowhere)

We still gotta meet up so I can check out those Rims you have (If you still have them)

Car looks great!

[b00stedtalon2]

I had ordered S&W 8 point and got the thing in like 2 weeks. Pre-bent and notched and everything ready to be welded in. S&W FTW for sure.

[destroydsm]

I'm jealous I wish i had a garage to work on mine in...It would be ALOT further along than it is...(which is Nowhere)

We still gotta meet up so I can check out those Rims you have (If you still have them)

Car looks great!

Yea man what town did you say you lived in? And are you talking abuot the talon wheels i had for sale? I still have both sets.

Sucks you dont have a place to work your car. Im def glad i got my garage all cleaned out. I wouldnt have been able to get shit done without it.


I had ordered S&W 8 point and got the thing in like 2 weeks. Pre-bent and notched and everything ready to be welded in. S&W FTW for sure.

Yea Ive heard good things about them, didnt have to pay shipping either! There in driving distance(1 hour), so now all i have to do is drive up there and pick it up on my day off. :D

[95RedRS]

Marlton...So we are probably like 20 Mins from each other. And Yeah my buddy has a garage but its all the way in Clayton and his Neighbor has like 3 bikes in there...I'm trying to get him to move the shit so I can at least get it in somewhere...Otherwise I dunno when/where I'm gonna work on the thing :(

[dsm614]

Hey great minds think alike! Are you going to do an S&W or have it bent up custom? I must say S&W is the way to go, 250$ for everything. Just cut to size and weld up.

Nope, jegs fox body 12 point for 300 bucks, but I might add a few more bars here and there...;)

[destroydsm]

Here it is! Picked it up today.:)
This is going to be a big project for me. Im pretty good at welding, just never did a job this big. So if anyone out there wants to give me any tips or pointers that would be awesome! Like forming the plates to the floor, i guess a torch and a hammer will take care of that? When i weld it up i want to make the rear bars connect to a bar going across the strut towers. Well i got lots of work to do! Cant wait to start on it.

Also if anyone has a link to the NHRA rulebook let me know. The link i had no longer works.

Thanks!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5182.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5185.jpg

[NOMIEZVR4]

I just joined in on this thread and cant wait for the next gallery!

[91TSiGuy]

Ah, you got the 10 point kit. Those front a-pillar bars are funky and run outside of the dash. Makes a little less room getting in and out, but it's doable.

[dsm614]

Harbor freight has a cheap but good tubing notcher, you need a 1/2 drill and the orange metal hole saw bits from home depot.

Rule book states you cant grind down any welds, and I recently seen something that the plates needed tig welded to the floor?

Most NHRA techs will pass it if they are mig'd to the floor anyways.

[destroydsm]

Ah, you got the 10 point kit. Those front a-pillar bars are funky and run outside of the dash. Makes a little less room getting in and out, but it's doable.

Yea i thought they were pretty funky too. I like other style ones with one bend.:( But oh well. Ill have to see how it fits and with the dash.

Harbor freight has a cheap but good tubing notcher, you need a 1/2 drill and the orange metal hole saw bits from home depot.

Rule book states you cant grind down any welds, and I recently seen something that the plates needed tig welded to the floor?

Most NHRA techs will pass it if they are mig'd to the floor anyways.

I have heard that about the plates but i dont think it has to be that way on the NHRA rule book. Maybe other organizations require it. Hmm?

Ill have to check out that notcher, i might just use a grinder thought. Oh and i also cleaned up one of my wheel wells, it sucks on a 1g because after you get the stock undercoating and dirt off there is an extremly thick layer of seam seal all over the front wheel wells, this stuff wont even come off with a bad ass wire wheel. So i sprayed over it. Dosent look anywhere near as good as yours but, itll do.


Anyways..
I might have some problems forming the plates around the rear stut towers. And what about the spots where the floor is uneven. Anyone have any tips?

[b00stedtalon2]

I used a big ass hammer to shape the floor plates around parts that are uneven. You should be able to do the same thing for the strut towers with being able to make it look nice.

[destroydsm]

I used a big ass hammer to shape the floor plates around parts that are uneven. You should be able to do the same thing for the strut towers with being able to make it look nice.

Did you heat it up with a torch at all? I might try that on the strut towers. I was also thinking on the main hoop about just putting a jack under the floor with a 2x4 and smashing the floor flat, then welding the plates.

[fst91dsm]

That looks like the S&W Race Cars Cage that I got for my Talon. It would just be easier to fab your own A-Pillar bars. And it will be easier to get in and out. Remember, you have 20 seconds to get out of the car from shutting it down to getting out blindfolded to get your NHRA licence and the easier the better.

[dsm614]

Air hammers can be your friend!

Oh, and the tubing notcher is like 40 bucks, it will save you an ass load of time and your pipes will be stronger once you weld them together, because you wont have hardly any gaps.

It also has degrees on it if you need to notch them in a particular degree...

The bad part about it is the hole saw bits are $70, but the have a lifetime warranty, so I'm on my second set.. haha.


On the wheel wells, trust me i was in them bad boys for awhile... my grinder hates me right now because of how thick that crap was...oh.. and why dont you have PICS??? haha

[b00stedtalon2]

It should have came pre-notched.. My s&w kit was.

[destroydsm]

That looks like the S&W Race Cars Cage that I got for my Talon. It would just be easier to fab your own A-Pillar bars. And it will be easier to get in and out. Remember, you have 20 seconds to get out of the car from shutting it down to getting out blindfolded to get your NHRA licence and the easier the better.


Yea im really not likeing the way they are. I mean the front crassbar would have to be run under the steering wheel and would be right there in the open outside the dash. And not to mention less room. I will probably just buy some pipe and have it bent up.

Here is a pic i found of a mustang with this style a-pillar bars. All the other S&W kits i have seen are one bend, but when i get one it ends up beings like this.
http://images.mustang50magazine.com/featuredvehicles/p138392_large+1990_Ford_Mustang_LX+Interior.jpg

[destroydsm]

It should have came pre-notched.. My s&w kit was.

Yea it is for the most part, but there are some ends that arent.

[destroydsm]

Air hammers can be your friend!

Oh, and the tubing notcher is like 40 bucks, it will save you an ass load of time and your pipes will be stronger once you weld them together, because you wont have hardly any gaps.

It also has degrees on it if you need to notch them in a particular degree...

The bad part about it is the hole saw bits are $70, but the have a lifetime warranty, so I'm on my second set.. haha.


On the wheel wells, trust me i was in them bad boys for awhile... my grinder hates me right now because of how thick that crap was...oh.. and why dont you have PICS??? haha

Lol, I didnt take pics because it looks like crap lol, i only did one wheel.(Gloss black) I will get some when i finish them all up.:cool: I want to get all the tan seem seal layer off and repaint it.

[destroydsm]

Ok here are some test fitment pics. They are just sitting in place. I did how ever tack the seat belt cross bar in place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5235.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5234.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5237.jpg

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http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5239.jpg

[91TSiGuy]

Try to center that main hoop in the floor plates by angling the cut at the end of the tube, or bend the plate up like an L to run behind where it's currently at. Should help you out some. ;)

[destroydsm]

Try to center that main hoop in the floor plates by angling the cut at the end of the tube, or bend the plate up like an L to run behind where it's currently at. Should help you out some. ;)

Thanks man, i'll try that out.

[JamesH]

Seems like a badass build. If ya want you can paint my car to. :) Needs it desperately.

[b00stedtalon2]

To make shit easier, you can bolt the plates to the floor. Yes its legal too.

[destroydsm]

Seems like a badass build. If ya want you can paint my car to. :) Needs it desperately.

Lol i would but that was the first and last car i will ever paint, wayyy to much work. I dont know how people do tha for a living.

To make shit easier, you can bolt the plates to the floor. Yes its legal too.

Yea i read that in the rules. But i def am going to weld them.

[destroydsm]

So i got more done, i got the main hoop floor plates tacked in, and the main hoop tacked to that. Im using a flux-cored welder to tack everything up, and them going to borrow a good gas welder for the final welding.

My kit only came with 6 plates, do i not need them for the diagnal supports that come off the mainhoop/seatcrossbar?

[b00stedtalon2]

So i got more done, i got the main hoop floor plates tacked in, and the main hoop tacked to that. Im using a flux-cored welder to tack everything up, and them going to borrow a good gas welder for the final welding.

My kit only came with 6 plates, do i not need them for the diagnal supports that come off the mainhoop/seatcrossbar?

You use 2 for the rear bars to strut towers, 2 for the main hoop, then the side bars and dash curved bars share plates when they meet at floor.

edit: i think you will need 2 more plates now that I think about it for those diagonal supports.

[destroydsm]

You use 2 for the rear bars to strut towers, 2 for the main hoop, then the side bars and dash curved bars share plates when they meet at floor.


So the diagnal bars dont need them? And can be welded to the floor? It didnt say anything in the rule book about them, but every cage i seen has them. I guess ill pick up some metal and cut some 6x6 plates for it.

[90_talon_matt]

When you're forming your plates forget all of that air hammering and torch heating junk. Just take a few measurements and pre bend everything. You'll be able to get everything close enough to the point where u can just stitch weld or tack and just hammer it flat...etc.

You'll be surprised how fast it goes together....you think yours is a big job? Try doing it all with straight lengths of DOM and a hydraulic tube bender. :P

I pretty much hated my life after tigging all the plates to the chasis. I need a torch with a thumb control like it's going outta style if I'm going to keep doing cages. If I can figure out how to post picturs I'll put a few up if you're interested.

[b00stedtalon2]

So the diagnal bars dont need them? And can be welded to the floor? It didnt say anything in the rule book about them, but every cage i seen has them.
I just checked, you will need 2 more plates.

[90_talon_matt]

I just checked, you will need 2 more plates.

Any point being tied into the chasis needs to be on a 36sq" plate.

[destroydsm]

Thanks for the info. Yea i went over the rules again.

I figured out my main hoop was twisted, so i had to bend that back straight, it was a really pain in the ass

So i got the floor plates tacked in and the main hoop tacked to that. I got everything level and straight and even.:)

Pics later tonight.

[partemisio]

Pics later tonight.

RIGHT NOW:D

[destroydsm]

Dog.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v397/ihatejason/101_5245.jpg


Tucked in pretty good on the sides.
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Wow now i can see that the top of the main hoop isent perfectly level.:mad: I know the seatbelt cross bar is dead nuts level tho. So i guess im going to be re tacking this thing in.:(

How perfect do they have to be for tech inspection??

And yea i know my tacks suck, my welder blows, dam flux-core crap.

[b00stedtalon2]

Tacks are allowed to suck :D And they aren't going to look to see if the cage is perfectly leveled. Usually they glance at it and give the o.k. It's already hard to tell its uneven.

[destroydsm]

Tacks are allowed to suck :D And they aren't going to look to see if the cage is perfectly leveled. Usually they glance at it and give the o.k. It's already hard to tell its uneven.

I went over it measuring and leveling over and over. Mayb its just the picture messing with me. lol

Yea i meant to say for certification, not tech inspection.

[destroydsm]

More progress!. Plates tacked to strut towers, cross bar connecting them are tacked in, The 2 bars that connect to the main hoop are all noched up and test fitted. They are just eyeballed in right now.


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[destroydsm]

When you're forming your plates forget all of that air hammering and torch heating junk. Just take a few measurements and pre bend everything. You'll be able to get everything close enough to the point where u can just stitch weld or tack and just hammer it flat...etc.

You'll be surprised how fast it goes together....you think yours is a big job? Try doing it all with straight lengths of DOM and a hydraulic tube bender. :P

I pretty much hated my life after tigging all the plates to the chasis. I need a torch with a thumb control like it's going outta style if I'm going to keep doing cages. If I can figure out how to post picturs I'll put a few up if you're interested.


Yea, i just used a good hammer and alot of tacks, it worked out pretty well.
Lol well id have to blow my brains out if i had to bend all this stuff myself, way to impatient for that.

Yea man id like to see some of your pics.

[destroydsm]

I got alot more done with the cage, almost ready to start the final welding.


These little guys showed up today! Shipped over in 1 day! Extermepsi is the shit!
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Now i can get the motor in.:cool:

[destroydsm]

Cage progress.

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Not tacked just laying in place (somewhat)
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UGLY.
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CLEAN.
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Waiting for the motor.:P
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And here is a pic of the gutted hatch painted. Waiting on some tinted lexan.;)
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[partemisio]

Car looks good so far. I need to get to doing some work on mine instead of being lazy.

[destroydsm]

Yea im usually lazy as hell after work. But on days off i gettterrrdone.





Oh yea, i had to modify my seat brackets to center the seat up. It was to far to the left before.

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[fst_4g63t]

I dont mean to sound rude but are you going to get a different welder to finish the rest of the cage? If not the way that welder goes you will fail through an NHRA tech inspection. What speed are you trying to certify the car too also?

[JamesH]

Hey ya happen to have a spare MTX laying around? Figuring ya have all this, why not some extras. lol.

[destroydsm]

I dont mean to sound rude but are you going to get a different welder to finish the rest of the cage? If not the way that welder goes you will fail through an NHRA tech inspection. What speed are you trying to certify the car too also?


Yea, as i said before im just using the flux core welder to tack everything up and going to use a good welder for the final welding.

Faster then 9.99 or 135mph

The car is only going to be a mid to low 10 second car, not even needing a full cage. But eventually the car will get faster threw the next few years, and theres no reason to upgrade twice. And in the event of a wreck i rather be safe then sorry. But i still want everything to be NHRA legal and done correctly no what i mean.

[fst_4g63t]

I do know what you mean my uncle owns a hotrod shop and believe me the inspectors are very anal. The will meausre wall thickness and everything. Easiest way to research any of the info is on NHRA's website, just watch out for the boring text. It will put you to sleep good luck Darren

[destroydsm]

NEWS
-Just ordered my wheels. 15x7, 40 offset, 12lbs each. And only 360$ Shipped. Pics when they get here.

-Ordering a pin-on fiberglass hood from frankscustomfiberglass.com, within the next week.;)

-Motor should be in very soon, have to borrow a cherrypicker.

-Alsoooo, decided to scrap the "s" shaped a-pillar bars, Have to find a shop to bend some new ones up for me, or see if i can get them from S&W.

[partemisio]

What kind of wheels?

I am going with that same hood and one of his hatches.

I'm sure you can get the bars that go through the dash from S&W. They do make a cage that goes through the dash. These are the part number for the cage: 11-2547TD-CM, 11-2547TD, 11-2547TD-DOM. Just tell them you want the bars from one of those part number. The different part number are for different material used.

[destroydsm]

They are replica GAB sport wheels.

Yea i might also get a hatch from there, depends on if i can get the funds.

And thanks, i will have to give S&W A call tommaro.

[destroydsm]

The hood should be on its way, and the wheels will be here mon.:cool:

[vaboys2ndgen]

I made it through page 6 and i have to say this thread gave me a chubby. I'm loving the sheet metal work and paint job! good luck with the rest my friend.

[TSimage]

Not feeling that color at all now that it's all came together, but the over all workmanship is very nice and its definitely a DIY project that has been done right from start to finish.

GJ guys.

[4g64fiero]

Where did you get the metal you riveted in the doors? I love threads like this, I always get a better idea. I would go down to lows and get some but its like 40+ usd a sheet. I figure that that is too expensive for just sheet metal or aluminum.

The aluminum in the engine bay is sexy. I am going to copy you ok? OK!

[destroydsm]

Where did you get the metal you riveted in the doors? I love threads like this, I always get a better idea. I would go down to lows and get some but its like 40+ usd a sheet. I figure that that is too expensive for just sheet metal or aluminum.

The aluminum in the engine bay is sexy. I am going to copy you ok? OK!

I got it at this giant metal place you can get anything there, its local in jersey, its called fazzios they have any and everything. It was quite expensive. I got a 8x4 piece for 80$ But did the floor and door panels with it. and have extras.

Lol you can copy me, its all good.:P
Im going to do a 4 inch hole in it for my cold air intake as well. Going to be swheet.

[destroydsm]

Not feeling that color at all now that it's all came together, but the over all workmanship is very nice and its definitely a DIY project that has been done right from start to finish.

GJ guys.


It looks alot better in the sunlight, plus its incredible dirty and looks like shit right now. lol But i promise when im done it will look awsome.

Thanks for the compliments.:)

[destroydsm]

I made it through page 6 and i have to say this thread gave me a chubby. I'm loving the sheet metal work and paint job! good luck with the rest my friend.


Hahahaha, Thanks man.

[destroydsm]

Holy shit guys, this thread has over 10 thousand views! thats crazy.;)

[destroydsm]

Wheels are here!
The lips are to bling for me so there gonna get painted.

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[dsm614]

I'd leave em the way they are.. i like them like that.

[destroydsm]

I'd leave em the way they are.. i like them like that.

Yea i like them like that too. But i want everything all black, lol. I dunno ill have to see, they do look pretty bitchen. Maybe ill just use the smoke metalcast paint on it, so its like a black chrome kinda look.




-Also the hood is ordered, i just have to wait a few weeks for them to make it. And then make a 2 hour drive threw PA. to pick it up.

-And also i got them threw-dash a-pillar bars ordered from s&w as well as 2 more plates.

[K_Mans_TSI]

Try doing it all with straight lengths of DOM and a hydraulic tube bender. :P

How bout Chromoly and a manual bender. I have vids of us pulling the table off the floor.

[b00stedtalon2]

How bout Chromoly and a manual bender. I have vids of us pulling the table off the floor.
Ha post them up!

[K_Mans_TSI]

They're on my other PC, I'll try to get that together tomorrow to post up.

[4g64fiero]

I was thinking about using those rims as well, I clicked on the add for them the other day. They have a really light set of rims I was thinking about using but, I dont know if I can trust those at 140mph.

[dsm614]

Are you having a carbon hood made? and by who?

[destroydsm]

I was thinking about using those rims as well, I clicked on the add for them the other day. They have a really light set of rims I was thinking about using but, I dont know if I can trust those at 140mph.


There from Discount tire Direct. There actually pretty nice wheels, If you think about it, rotas are replicas as well and they hold up just fine. There honestly probably all made at the same plant, and then the companys put there names on them, like Rota, Drag, etc.

I believe the red talon on here "got60" is running them with no problems and trapping 140 plus. A few others as well.

[destroydsm]

Are you having a carbon hood made? and by who?

Na, Im having a fiber glass hood made by frankscustomfiberglass (http://www.frankscustomfiberglass.com/mitsubishi.htm)

Its alot for shipping thought 150$ and its only 2 hours away. Thats why when its done im going to make the drive over.

[destroydsm]

How bout Chromoly and a manual bender. I have vids of us pulling the table off the floor.


Haha yea i didnt want to have to deal with that, so i got the pre-bent one!:cool:

[destroydsm]

Yea i post everything. Even valve stems lol
And yes you need them for nhra.:P
Got these from pepboys.
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[destroydsm]

Well got the threw dash a-pillar bars from s&w. Got the drivers side tacked in.
Cut out the stock dash bar. And tacked in the passanger side plate.

Also painted the polished lips flat black. No pics yet though.

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[b00stedtalon2]

So.... is this thing going be at the shootout aug 17'th? :P


I kid I kid hehe. Looks good man, keep up the good work.

[destroydsm]

Lol, i wish. Maybe shootout 09

[b00stedtalon2]

Cool, looking forward to seeing it in person! Also, what turbo are you going to be running? I don't feel like looking back to find out.

[partemisio]

Looking really good. I am looking forward to hearing what you think of the hood when it is done.

[lilredeclipse]

Very nice build! Keep up the good work!

[destroydsm]

Cool, looking forward to seeing it in person! Also, what turbo are you going to be running? I don't feel like looking back to find out.

Im still not positive yet, Looking into a t4 t-61. (Pretty much a poor mans 35r lol)

Or i might go with T3 HX-40.

Not sure yet.:dunno:

[destroydsm]

Looking really good. I am looking forward to hearing what you think of the hood when it is done.

Thanks. The hood should be done soon, i will let you know how it is.;)


Very nice build! Keep up the good work!
Thanks man!

[destroydsm]

Picked up the hood today. Fits and looks good. I started drilling the holes for the hood pins as well.

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I would recomend Franks custom fiber glass to everyone. Hes an awsome guy and builds some of the sickest cars. He had a full tube chasis VW jetta with like 24inch wide slicks, that he build. He build everything, the fiberglass shell, the full tube chasis, the sick ass intake and exhaust manifolds. He also had some sick hondas, as well as some old AMXs, gotta love the old muscle cars. All cars were tube chasis fiber glass shells all build by him. Also saw a 1g carbon fiber hood he build, it was veryyy nice.

The only problem he has is that shipping cost a fortune, and if you dont live driving distance its gonna cost some major dough. He has to ship freight.

[91TSiGuy]

He had a full tube chasis VW jetta with like 24inch wide slicks, that he build.
Guess he's still working on that rwd project then? I remember seeing it there last August while picking up my hood before the shootout. How'd you like finding his place? Was he actually there when you showed up? :P (both times I have gone he wasn't and I had to wait)

[dsm614]

I would love to have some quest front end stuff made, but i think i emailed him already and he said he didn't have the time and it would be too expensive.

[partemisio]

Hood looks awesome. I can't wait to see what this beast does when you get it finished. It is so much like what my car is going to be in the near future that it is scary. Mine will be multi colored still though because I don't have the money to paint it or the skills to do it myself..

[destroydsm]

Guess he's still working on that rwd project then? I remember seeing it there last August while picking up my hood before the shootout. How'd you like finding his place? Was he actually there when you showed up? :P (both times I have gone he wasn't and I had to wait)

Yea, the thing is insane. Its looks like its almost done too. And finding that place sucked lol, Its really out there, took me about hour and 45min with no traffic on 76. And yea he was there when i got there, Hes a really cool guy, talked to him for about 45mins.


I would love to have some quest front end stuff made, but i think i emailed him already and he said he didn't have the time and it would be too expensive.

Yea he was saying he gets alot of people wanting parts but then when they find out how exspensive shipping is, they dont get them. It sux.

[dsm614]

I would drive up, i have a turbo volvo wagon.

[destroydsm]

Haha is that bitch awd too?

[destroydsm]

10 gallon fuel cell ordered, will be here monday.

[destroydsm]

Just panited the hood flat black, Nothin fancy tho. Pics later tonight.

[destroydsm]

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[partemisio]

Nice. Keep up the good work.

[destroydsm]

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[b00stedtalon2]

Lookin' good! Can't wait to see it all finished up with some pictures of it at a track. :)

[destroydsm]

Nice. Keep up the good work.

Lookin' good! Can't wait to see it all finished up with some pictures of it at a track. :)

Thanks Guys, its really starting to come together. I cant wait to see it when its done and at the track too!:P . But it will probably be awile, still need ALOT of parts.

[destroydsm]

It really sucks, i have been working 6 days a week and never have time to work on it. And once i get my one day off i just want to relax. I still have to finsh the cage, paint the interior, paint the rest of the lips on the wheels, get the motor in, etc. Theres lots i can do just no time.:(

[dsm614]

I know how you feel, I'm glad my wife love's DSM's, because she understands what I'm doing on my day's off.. haha... but.. lucky me I have 2 days off.

It's hard to come home from work and go into the garage and work more... but that's usually what I'm doing.

[tarantula]

Really nice work. Just went through the 10 pages. I can't wait for the day I start a build. I def want to do one!

[destroydsm]

I know how you feel, I'm glad my wife love's DSM's, because she understands what I'm doing on my day's off.. haha... but.. lucky me I have 2 days off.

It's hard to come home from work and go into the garage and work more... but that's usually what I'm doing.

Yea thats what i have been doing tooo, Getting home from work then going straight into the garage. Hopefully i have my 2 days off a week again so i can get some work done.

[destroydsm]

Flat black! The Anti-Bling. Lol

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Trying to figure out what to do with the polished lips.
What do you guys think??? Personally I pick stealth over flash any day.

[dsm614]

I can dig it.

[ManInBlack]

Awesome.

[GoT 60']

Flat black! The Anti-Bling. Lol

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Trying to figure out what to do with the polished lips.
What do you guys think??? Personally I pick stealth over flash any day.
Those are my rims 15s or 16s looks good.

[destroydsm]

Thanks, there 15x7 40 offset.:cool:

[destroydsm]

Fuel cell showed up today.

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[dsm614]

copy catter!

LOL

[tarantula]

Personally i like the polished lips. Its not like chrome. It would define the wheels since the whole car is practically black.

[destroydsm]

Im very picky with the way i want the car to look, everything is gonna be black, even the headlight covers, tail lights. I want everything black... lol. The only thing that wont be black are the hood pins.:rolleyes:

I now decided that im going to paint the wheels flat black, and paint the lips gloss black. I think that will look bad ass. And diffrent.