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: MSD DIS 2 PLUS and COP


tc1155
02-04-2008, 11:06 PM
Is there anyone on here that is running this setup? I need some advise.

MSD WIRING DIAGRAM for typical 4 cyl app with DIS 2
Brown/white is ch 1 neg, brown/green is ch 2 neg, brown and orange is coil pos high voltage, white is trig input 1, green is trigger input 2, red is 12v, pick is step retard, blue is 2 step, brown is no spark when grounded, red is power, and black is ground.

BASIC COP Wiring Diagram
http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/1394/1gcopwiringdiagramvw6.jpg

jeepman1998
02-05-2008, 03:16 PM
What do you need advice on, It is not that hard to wire. I went and used 2 msd 8224 coils and it is really bad ass. You should get a tach adapter and splice it into your harness. Check out http://www.msdignition.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11106

You also can ask them online, It takes a few days but they will respond.

tc1155
02-05-2008, 03:57 PM
yea I talked to them and they said because I am running a COP set up i will need to get a dis 4 even tho its set up as a wasted spark system. So up for sale goes the dis 2. Im looking 325 plus shipping i paid 598.12 for it last month and only took it outta the package and mounted it

jeepman1998
02-06-2008, 07:03 PM
You can still use a dis-2 if you want 1 and 4 fire at the same time and 2 and 3 also fire together. I can look on my harness to find out what wires go where if you would like..

You have 1 positive and 2 grounds on your stock coil plug. The dis-2 has 2 power wires to set up 2 coils just split it to hook it up to 4 coils. Then your trigger wires which are the grounds you have also 2 split them up and run 1=4 and 2=3 with the other It will work fine.

Msd does not even know their own shit, trust me there wiring did not help me. My msd is just like a safc it intersepts the coil sends it back to the msd to make it a better spark and then sends it back to the coil to fire. The ecu triggers the coil not msd.

If you hook up the ground wires wrong it will backfire thats it. Then just reverse them.

tc1155
02-06-2008, 09:08 PM
Thats if you could take a look at your id appreate it alot. Yea from what i was getting outta this the (orange and brown- coil high voltage) which has 2 wires gets split and goes to the power side of each coil. Then you split trig 1 (white)to cyl's 1 and 4 (RED wiring in the diagram) and trig 2 (green) to 2 and 3(WHITE wire in the diagram). And the neg trig's go where or am I lost on the second half of this?

jeepman1998
02-07-2008, 03:33 PM
The negative wires are green and a white one. Split the green wire into 2 and then split the white wire into 2. Run your orange and brown wires to all of the positive coil terminals then run the green negatives to 2 coils and then the white negatives to the other 2 coils, I think green is for 2+3 and white is 1+4, can't remember off hand. If it is backwards it will backfire through intake manifold If that happens swap the triggers ( green and whites)

Does that help?

tc1155
02-07-2008, 03:45 PM
trg 1 + gets split to 1 and 4, trig 2 + get split to 2 and 3. Where does the trig 1 - go to and trig 2 - go to ? Also Im assuming that they ground threw the ecu because of the 12v ref. So there would be 3 wires going to each of the coils if the neg trigs get split ?

jeepman1998
02-07-2008, 04:14 PM
coil coil coil coil
4 3 2 1
brown/orange , brown/orange, brown orange , brown orange

those are positives

green , white , white , green

those are negatives


I may have the negatives backwards if it backfires when you start, swap the greens with whites and then the whites with greens. My harness I extended it with is all black wires.

It is really easy.
The factory coil wires from the plug are BLK/WHT (COIL+), YEL/BLK (COIL-), and YEL/GRN (COIL-).
the negatives are you triggers they will become your green and white wires. and the blk/wht wire will become the brown and orange.

tc1155
02-07-2008, 04:19 PM
so i use the neg side of the trigs (white,green) and only the coil high voltage (brown and orange), What about the trig +'s ?

jeepman1998
02-07-2008, 04:20 PM
There are no trigger positives.
All the coils get a positive and they get triggered by the negatives.

tc1155
02-07-2008, 04:31 PM
trigger input channel 1 (white) and trigger input channel 2 (green). Are split between (1 and 4 are channel 1).(2 and 3 are channel 2) postive side of coils with the orange/ brown wires. Brown/white are coil 1 - channel 1..... Brown/green are coil - channel 2... Those must go to and split (channel 1 neg side of coils 1 and 4 )..... (channel 2 neg side of coils 2 and 3)... Does that sound rite. http://www.msdignition.com/pdf/frm25956_for_62112_62152/frm25956.pdf

jeepman1998
02-07-2008, 04:35 PM
pm'ed you with my cell number

texas_gsx
02-09-2008, 01:21 PM
When you guys figure this out can you post up how it is all wired in? I'm about to install my buschur c.o.p. with a msd dis-2 and a msd tach adapter since my car is a 90gsx. And I wasn't sure I could run the dis-2 with the c.o.p. untill now. Thanks!

jeepman1998
02-09-2008, 02:26 PM
The info is there. If you have a 3 wire plug for the cop setup that is wired already then orange and brown wire positive terminal and then green on the bottom left terminal then the white on the bottom right terminal.

It depends on the 2 trigger wires on which one you make green and which one you make white.

If it backfires through the intake swap the green and white wire positions.

texas_gsx
02-10-2008, 01:14 PM
Mine is a four plug because of the tach signal in the 90's. I will figure it out......hopefully.

jeepman1998
02-10-2008, 04:30 PM
just rewire the cop setup to use on a 3 wire setup.

you can always drive you tach off the msd tach output.

tc1155
02-11-2008, 08:47 AM
jeepman is a stand up guy!!

Chicago1
02-11-2008, 04:00 PM
You can still use a dis-2 if you want 1 and 4 fire at the same time and 2 and 3 also fire together. I can look on my harness to find out what wires go where if you would like..

You have 1 positive and 2 grounds on your stock coil plug. The dis-2 has 2 power wires to set up 2 coils just split it to hook it up to 4 coils. Then your trigger wires which are the grounds you have also 2 split them up and run 1=4 and 2=3 with the other It will work fine.

Msd does not even know their own shit, trust me there wiring did not help me. My msd is just like a safc it intersepts the coil sends it back to the msd to make it a better spark and then sends it back to the coil to fire. The ecu triggers the coil not msd.

If you hook up the ground wires wrong it will backfire thats it. Then just reverse them.


Pics or diagrams for dummies like myself?

jeepman1998
02-12-2008, 02:11 PM
Anyone having problems pm me and I will talk on phone. I do not know how to import diagrams. I could draw it out but I can not scan it.

It is really easy no matter what msd says. I wired mine up like they said and had no spark, now my car runs amazing.

Chicago1
02-12-2008, 03:45 PM
Ill definately pm you when I am at the wiring point. The motor is ready to be dropped in I just need to get off my ass.

chrish1440
02-19-2008, 11:08 AM
Alot of good information. I will be doing a similar setup, just with the AEM CDI.

texas_gsx
02-19-2008, 05:36 PM
I wonder if an AEM CDI would work on the 90' models without some kind of tach adapter like the MSD uses?...