1/4 mile time

[4G63AWD]

can anyone tell me approx how fast in 1/4 mile will this 2nd Gen Talon AWD run?

Mods:

16G ported
ported exhaust manifold
Apexi FMIC
1st Gen BOV
Apexi S-AFC
2.5" turbo back
17psi of boost
upper i/c
HKS EVC EZ
iridium plugs / magnecore wires
ACT 2600
underdrive pulley
HKS intake (almost forgot abt this)
255 fuel pump

thanks so much for the time.

[Edited by 4G63AWD on 11-07-2000 at 09:36 AM]

[Turboholic]

-Low 13s' if tune correctly. What kind of clutch?

-Kevin. :D

[Donnie]

He listed a ACT 2600 clutch in his mods.

I would have to guess high 12's low 13's depending on your talent as a driver and the tune of the car.

I'm going to assume that you have an intake. :D

How about fuel upgrades? Will you be running race gas? Do you have the free mods done? What size wheels are you running?

[4G63AWD]

Turboholic and donnie: thanks for the info!

the car is running on sunoco 94 on 18" wheel. What kind of Free mod's can be done to this car? i took the car to the track in E-town (New Jersey) this summer and ran a 14.2 @ 100.6mph With a Stock Clutch (60' time : 2.42 R/T : 1.26) that was my first time and i baby launch the car.

[ecoli]

That car should be in the mid-high 12s. Throw in some race gas and turn to boost up to 22psi. I ran alot of 12.8s when I had a 16G and boost leaks, and I am a bad driver. I only ever made 2 runs on pump gas with the 16G, a 13.2 and a 13.0.

[Donnie]

Originally posted by 4G63AWD
Turboholic and donnie: thanks for the info!
the car is running on sunoco 94 on 18" wheel.

Do like ecoli said and put some race gas in. I don't know about the 22# of boost unless you have some fuel upgrades. With race gas 18-20# would be about max.

Lose the 18's. Put the stock 17's back on, or even better, get some 16's off a GST and drop the air pressure to 18-20#.

What kind of Free mod's can be done to this car?

Go to http://www.vfaq.com and spend a cozy night reading.

i took the car to the track in E-town (New Jersey) this summer and ran a 14.2 @ 100.6mph With a Stock Clutch (60' time : 2.42 R/T : 1.26) that was my first time and i baby launch the car.


I really hope that you didn't have all the mods on your car and run that time. First off, your 60' time totally sucks ass. I pulled a 2.372 with my FWD and I spun like a demon. With a AWD you need to get that number down under 2 seconds.

You have a decision to make: Do you want to race or not? If you want to race and pull good times you have to accept the fact that things are going to break and drive the car like you stole it. That means when at the line, bring the revs up to 5000 and drop the clutch. That car should feel like it's going to pull the pavement right off the ground, especially with a ACT 2600 clutch. That damn thing isn't going to slip hardly at all.

You car should be capable of putting about 265-270hp to the ground, it's up to you to put it there.

[greenstreak]

I would agree that with that set up you should be looking at high 12's at maybe 108 or so. You have a pretty basic set up that I have seen alot of guys use to run high 12's with. These times were on cars with race gas and pushing 22+ psi. With this set up I don't think you run too much risk of breaking driveline parts if you are careful. I have seen many guys with similar set-ups bust 1.7-1.8 60' reliably over and over again. I agree that if you want to see some good times you will have to drive it hard but that is what it will take. :)

[KLLR4CYL]

Its not so much the ET you should be concerned about. At 100 mph you should be running mid-to-hi 13's. ET's will improve with launching practice, but your trapspeed should remain fairly constant. The question is, why is your car only running 100 mph trapspeed with your mods? You should be running at least 105 mph. Do you have the AFC tuned rich? What boost are you running? Are you shifting too early? With the 16G, you don't need to shift before 7K rpm.

[4G63AWD]

Originally posted by KLLR4CYL
Its not so much the ET you should be concerned about. At 100 mph you should be running mid-to-hi 13's. ET's will improve with launching practice, but your trapspeed should remain fairly constant. The question is, why is your car only running 100 mph trapspeed with your mods? You should be running at least 105 mph. Do you have the AFC tuned rich? What boost are you running? Are you shifting too early? With the 16G, you don't need to shift before 7K rpm.

I have my AFC tune slightly rich i guess( those guys at extreme told me not to go lower than 0.82), i have one of the sensor connect to my ECU to read the O2 sensor it reads abt 0.85 on WOT every gear, is it too rich or lean? do u think i m running 100mph trapspeed is because i m running with my stock clutch? i havent run it with the ACT2600 yet, but i didnt feel any slipping with the stock clutch back then. i m running 17 psi, and shifting just before 7000rpm. what is the best rpm to shift?

[KLLR4CYL]

If your clutch wasn't slipping, then that didn't affect your speed.

0.85v on o2 is not too rich. I wouldn't want the o2's to drop any lower unless you have an EGT gauge to keep an eye on. That voltage seems very low with only 17 psi of boost. If you're using a vampire tap instead of solder for the AFC o2 wire connection, you might consider soldering it. You should also be using the ECU's ground wire for the AFC and not using chassis ground.

Cranking up the boost before finding out why the o2 voltage is so low is probably not a good idea. It may just be that your electrical connection isn't great and you're not getting an accurate reading.

If you're using a catcon instead of a test pipe, that will also keep your car's power below its potential.

Shifting:I recently let a friend take my car down the track. He got 12.5@110.7 mph out of it, where I had a best of 12.7@109.1 just a couple hours earlier. He shifted it at 7200-7300 versus my shifting at 7000 and the trapspeed improved.