New Evo

[cantonxc306]

I was on my way to work today when i saw the new EVO 10. I thought it looked sweet. Once i got to work i looked up some stuff on it and i heard it was pretty slow. I was just curious of what you guys think of it. If you bought one what would you do to it??? Im bored at work so i figured this would be a good thread to talk about.

Chuck

Heres a pic of what it looked like. Not the exact one.

http://www.vividracing.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/01/57optimise-evo-x.jpg

[hawaiifiveoh]

If you looked a little bit harder, you would see that they are VERY responsove to mods, and a tad bit slower than the 9's were, but come with an array of things that make up for the straight line "slowness".

[streetlamp]

Well they are already running 10s in them so they cant be that slow

[cantonxc306]

What evo would you buy then if you had the chance?? EVO 9 or the EVO 10

[cs82685]

I have still yet to see one but really want to b/c I love them from the pics.

For looks i'd get the X, but I got the IX because of the proven performance out of 4g63

[stillbroke]

8/9 > 10 IMO.. I like the way it looks, but performance wise its just not as responsive as the 4g63 is..

[cantonxc306]

8/9 > 10 IMO.. I like the way it looks, but performance wise its just not as responsive as the 4g63 is..

Just woundering is it possible to swap the engine out of a 8/9 to a 10 because i think the 10 look alot better.

[14bPowered]

Just woundering is it possible to swap the engine out of a 8/9 to a 10 because i think the 10 look alot better.


With enough time and money, anything is possible.

[cantonxc306]

Im just woundering because i am thinking of getting an evo. Im not sure what im going to do yet. My gsx right now is just eating my money. I think if i get an evo it might be a little better. i would be able to get more horses out of it and it looks sharp.

What you guys think?

[gSx-LeX]

Moved to Evo section.


I agree with stillbroke. 8/9 FTW.

[Loner]

I say get a 9, like said before we all know how the 4G63 performs.

[hawaiifiveoh]

Definately think that the 8/9 look way better than the new one, but still...the new motor doesn't look too shabby from what has already been accomplished...disputed or not.

[1997RS]

I would preffer the 10 and the reason why is because I stoped by a dealer the other day to take a look at them and these cars are nice inside and out. The only thing I could'nt spot is the turbo. I think it hidden somewhere in all the plastic the car has.

[HybridAWD]

I have still yet to see one but really want to b/c I love them from the pics.

For looks i'd get the X, but I got the IX because of the proven performance out of 4g63

The Evo X has only been out for less than a year and is already running extremely fast. I have no clue why people are doubting Mitsubishi when it comes to Evo X. It's not like Mitsubishi pulled another "Eclipse change". What I mean by that is going from turbo AWD to fwd v6 (1999 to 2000 transition). They know what they are doing and they know they have to live up to what they put out the years prior.

8/9 > 10 IMO.. I like the way it looks, but performance wise its just not as responsive as the 4g63 is..

It's not as responsive? Seems to me it's very responsive, It's hard to compare apples to oranges, but I'd say the Evo X is in the same ball park with basic bolt ons.

I would preffer the 10 and the reason why is because I stoped by a dealer the other day to take a look at them and these cars are nice inside and out. The only thing I could'nt spot is the turbo. I think it hidden somewhere in all the plastic the car has.

It's in the rear of the engine now, look from the passenger side down towards that back... it can't be missed.

[cAPSlOCK97gst]

The new Evo X is more focused on handling (if that's even possible) when compared to the VIII/IX then straight line performance. I think the looks are hit or miss, depending on where you're standing.

[Infinity]

I wish I could get the 10 with the 9 engine.
But then again, the 10 is great and all, but it just looks cheaper than the 9.
It just sort of has that cheap look to it. I don't know why, it looks plastic-y.

[HybridAWD]

I seriously dont understand why you guys are stuck with a 4g63 and not newer technology. Are you guys against it because it's an aluminum block? I sure hope not.

[turbolover]

Shit I would give my right nut to have either of them.:eek:

[hawaiifiveoh]

At first, when I heard it was going o be an aluminum block, I was definately thinking that it was going to be a weaker design, just because of the material...I was thinking it could have similar problems as LS1 people have with forced induction, but if they can prove that it is just as strong, or stronger, than I don't see any problems with the new stuff at all.

[turbolover]

Not trying to get off topic but what problems do ls1's have with forced induction? Is it higher boost levels that give them problems, because I thought like 4-6psi would give you crazy power.. Just wondering..

[hawaiifiveoh]

I've heard multiple times that they do have a few problems with higher boost levels, just because of the material... I have no experience personally, but I know for a fact that there are a few out there. Can anyone help me out on this?

[Sebba]

Hmmmm.... can't say I have heard that.

[hawaiifiveoh]

Give me a bit, I'm trying to find a few threads...

[turbolover]

Its no big deal, like I said I don't want to get off topic. If you just want to pm me the info that would be cool but its your call.

[hawaiifiveoh]

I'll try either way, but I know I've seen a few discussions about this...somewhere along the lines of, if you want to run anything serious, you pretty much have to buy a different block...and right now I'm getting frustrated becuase I'm almost certain about what I'm trying to say, but don't have anything to prove it yet.

[hawaiifiveoh]

Started a thread on LS1Tech, we'll find out here pretty soon.

[rodent]

Aluminum block LS1's have seen 1000rwhp but its not easy. The biggest problem with them is the stock heads have a thinner base but if you upgrade to AFR's then problem solved. Another issue is the head bolts are thinner and less head bolts are used compared to a SBC which could cause the head to lift if the cylinder pressure is too high.

I use to own a Turbo 02 WS6 LS1.

[hawaiifiveoh]

Thank you, this is what I was looking for, just couldn't remember the exact problem...but what about the block...I've heard about problems with that as well.

[0lmytsi]

Here's the evo in order of most desirable to least for me.

6>5>8>7>9>3>2>1>4>10 This is mostly based on looks lol :)

^ preferably TME

I thought the Evo 10 looked ugly as hell but it has grown on me although it remains the least desirable on my list.

I know best motoring ran the 10 against the 9 or 8 around tsukuba and the 10 was faster stock for stock.

[hawaiifiveoh]

On a circle track, yes, but it's a different story in the 1320.

[0lmytsi]

Duh...

[gSx-LeX]

The endless debate, Are Evo 10 is superior to Evo 8/9. Evolution (no pun intended ) tells us that as versions of something evolve, they get more advanced. Hence the Evo 9 is more advanced than the Evo 8 and the Evo 10 is superior to all other Evos before it.

It's all matter of preference. I still think that the Evo 8 is the best, and I have my reasons, and I'm sure all the Evo 9 and Evo 10 owners would disagree with me.

[forcdndukshun]

The evo ten has a higher compression ratio then the ix. The aluminum block is good to well over 400hp. If your looking upwards of that then I read they might have to sleeve it. Its about 500lbs heavier than the 9 and have mivec on both the intake and exhaust cam which I guess helps a lot. Oh and the turbo is in the back.

The 4g63 is an old design and actually has been around 31 years according to the july issue of import tuner.

[hawaiifiveoh]

Coming directly from my thread on LS1tech

"Nothing wrong with boosting a LS1 if its built right. Basically the stock bottom end (Rods/Pistons/Rings) is only good to 500-550rwhp. Anything past that and you'll need a forged bottom end (internals) to be safe. Things like trans and rear end will obviously need to be built with more power regardless of how that power is made."

"Generally 8 psi is the max, anything past that on a stock block is pushing it."

From looking at a guys sig, he is running just under 500/500 at 6 psi, so I don't see why very many would go higher from there. I'm mostly wrong, but I think I was a little bit close.

[Asmodeus]

The endless debate, Are Evo 10 is superior to Evo 8/9. Evolution (no pun intended ) tells us that as versions of something evolve, they get more advanced. Hence the Evo 9 is more advanced than the Evo 8 and the Evo 10 is superior to all other Evos before it.

It's all matter of preference. I still think that the Evo 8 is the best, and I have my reasons, and I'm sure all the Evo 9 and Evo 10 owners would disagree with me.

I think with the VIII / IX / X its obviously a good thing they all exist. And here's why. Speaking purely in DSM terms - the only REAL way to compare them. :P

You have 3 cars all good for the same things, but with just enough differences to excel in different area's more than the others.

The X. Ooh she's expensive. But a handling beyotch right out of the box. Some mild power upgrades and a handling focus makes this car shine.

The IX. Mild bolt on's and still a healthy expenditure of money - this car can kinda go any which way. Handling, road course... power... the most versatile of all 3 AT THIS TIME. It doesn't take much to put one of these in the 11's and drive it every day. And its still a razor sharp handling car - but minus a few of the X's gadgets.

Finally the VIII. No stupid complicated head parts. Cheapest to pick up. Easiest and most in common with DSM's to build. Pick up an 05 and you get ACD and REAL diffs. The motor is the same animal you've been toying with for years and it plays by the same rules. Drag drag drag! With the lowest cost of the 3 to buy, and the less complicated head setup keeps prices for building a car - more reasonable.

I have what I want.
:D

[rodent]

Coming directly from my thread on LS1tech

"Nothing wrong with boosting a LS1 if its built right. Basically the stock bottom end (Rods/Pistons/Rings) is only good to 500-550rwhp. Anything past that and you'll need a forged bottom end (internals) to be safe. Things like trans and rear end will obviously need to be built with more power regardless of how that power is made."

"Generally 8 psi is the max, anything past that on a stock block is pushing it."

From looking at a guys sig, he is running just under 500/500 at 6 psi, so I don't see why very many would go higher from there. I'm mostly wrong, but I think I was a little bit close.
Stock bottom end, 500 is the max. With forged internals, then 800-900 is no problem.

http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=866529
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=894991

There's other stronger blocks but the alum. Alum. LS1 has been known to go over 1000hp.

[fanaticdsm-er]

I honestly dont like the 10's at all. they tried to "Luxuryize" it haha. I dont liek it because i dunno it. I know 4g63's. Thats the main reason i would get an 8/9 over ten. Probably get an 8 because of what asmo said about the 9's mivec head and shit. Honestly i would take a HEALTHY white gsx with decent mods over everything. Thats just my .2 cents though.

[Ripper_XX]

From what I knew at first for the longest time I hated the X, I thought it was a watered down pos that was not geared at enthusiast at all. Search on youtube for the Mitsubishi training video's lol. Yep I found 5 of them on there, where they talk about the engine and the "Super All wheel drive system" as I think they called it.

It really has the potential to easily dominate the previous evo's. Just because it does not out run it in a stright line from the factory I wouldn't say it is "slower" A little weight reduction and a few mods and it should quickly become one hell of a beast. That said I did watch a race on Tascuba (sp?) race track where they had the new Evo X and IV on the track, the first 4 laps the X had it easily in the last lap though the IX came up and took the win. I don't recall the lap times but the IX and X had the fastest of the cars being raced if I recall correctly.

[slimgsx]

I am a bit biased towards the IX but the X has been growing on me. Throw on a set of Advan RS rims and it looks sick!

[Ripper_XX]

I duno once I get out of the army and start my new career, in a few years I might be looking at one. My wife has been saying "She likes Evo's, there one of her favorit cars".....


Sounds like a "buy one" to me lol....trouble is I wouldn't want to let her drive it LMAO.

[coexxist]

I'd get the 9, no doubt.

[95AWD_TSI_TALON]

I hated everything about the 10 when I first read about it and it just seemed like a horrible move. But it has grown on me and a buddy actualy just bought one ( he still won't tell me what his payments are, but there are over 500 a month :eek: ). I haven't drove or ridden in it yet to compare either :(
Matt

I forgot what mag it was in but i remember i was in the "office" at work reading it and got about half way through the articule. Read the turbo was in the back, first thoughts "there goes the 42r"

[Asmodeus]

I hated everything about the 10 when I first read about it and it just seemed like a horrible move. But it has grown on me and a buddy actualy just bought one ( he still won't tell me what his payments are, but there are over 500 a month :eek: ). I haven't drove or ridden in it yet to compare either :(
Matt

I forgot what mag it was in but i remember i was in the "office" at work reading it and got about half way through the articule. Read the turbo was in the back, first thoughts "there goes the 42r"

I must admit to being a X "hater" as well. Still not all that moved by it. Nowhere NEAR enough to even REMOTELY think about buying one. I'd "take" one. But, alas... there will be brighter ways to get that car without paying Mitsubishi $40,000. The Ralliart will be the same thing as the X sans some watering down. Almost like buying a IX - a few ponies. Toss the stock X toys on it... which will be cheap from people upgrading... tune it... all for the wonderful price of... well half what the X costs.

Uh, yeah. No brainer if you are like me and luxury crap makes you feel like getting OUT of a car instead of IN it... My VIII is loud, obnoxious, low, and no holds barred violent when you get into the pedal. Just the way I like it, and the RA is a stripped down version of the X - garbage. IMO the RA even tho its reduced to just ACD not AYC... and is down power will be the "new" evo version of the evo. A car more easily adaptable by purists due to lighter weight, less complicated shit, and a calmer variation of the X body work.

But on a side note, don't fret dear 42R lover. They said the same thing about SRT4's because the turbo was in the back, and its not a problem. Get your ass a BFH, or a sawzall... and "clearance the firewall"... that bish goes right in there...

:D

[myAWDgst]

EVO 6-9 will do for me.

[JPJ2007]

This just makes me want and evo 8..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PhHKf-U2Vw

[vajxiong]

Totally a 9 MR.