FALCO: GT-K 1000 *Automatic* BEAST!

[TSimage]

Considering this whole "Build Section" was my idea you'd figure that I would had one in here sooner than this but with life taking its course and me looking at purchasing my first home and becoming more involved with the GF, naturally the DSM finally had to take a back seat. :(

BUT don't think I've been MIA...

Many of you probably remember the TO4b V-Trim turned 35r/40r build I did "Dirty Birdie": http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=180560

I picked up a turbo setup deemed "The 42r Killer" and with my eyes set on doing something BIG I got in contact with the guys from FFTec with only the most radical of intentions in mind. Thus the "PHOENIX" build was formed: http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=195960

Fast forward to now and the Dirty Birdie had been sitting in storage and for months and the PHOENIX build never got a chance to really spread its wings, but then it hit me. Something even more radical that that... Put all the top of the line drag parts from the PHOENIX build into a car every bit as streetable as the Dirty Birdie/ :eek: :cool:

FALCO has been born. :evillaugh:

[BigBoostDSM]

Looking forward to some pics :cool:

[TSimage]

Looking forward to some pics :cool:

Ask and yee shall recieve!

So for starters I'm sure many are familiar with this shell that has been whored out for a while.

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/wingsauce/DSC_1238.jpg

Certified and caged to get me CLOSE to my goals but I'll be adding a Halo and the needed net so that I can go all the way:

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/wingsauce/DSC_1251.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/wingsauce/DSC_1252.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/wingsauce/DSC_1256.jpg

http://i23.photobucket.com/albums/b364/wingsauce/DSC_1257.jpg

[TSimage]

So the shell gets dropped off at my friends shop SMA (Sacramento Motoring Accessories)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm9.jpg

This thing looked like a 4X4, not an AWD, so first things first; Cannibalize the suspension from the Dirty birdie over to Falco.

Just to refresh your memory...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/15.jpg

The entire shell had all the other bushings replaced already so it was nice not to have to deal with torn boots and other annoyances..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm7.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm3.jpg

[TSimage]

Muuuuuch better!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm6.jpg

Poor Dirty Birdie back at stock ride height = no bueno

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm1.jpg

Stay tuned folks. If you liked my tuck I did with the black car with the motor and everything installed, just wait till you see what I do to this now that I have free/open of the engine bay.

[TSimage]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm12.jpg

Its a start but not nearly what I want to achieve.

The ENTIRE engine harness will come from the lower middle of the engine bay (to the right *drivers side* of the shifter cables) The extra holes will all be welded and shaved.

The fuse wires will be pulled back through the drivers side gromet and hidden. This way you wont see the huge fire loom in anywhere in the engine bay.

Fortunately the car is gutted to bare bones and I'll have PLENTY of room to work behind the dash.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm13.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm14.jpg

I'm 6'4 270+... Anybody wanna buy/trade me for a practically new Kirkey seat

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm8.jpg

:P Looks good..

To be continued..

[Redtsi252]

NOOOOOO.....we want more pix and updates....nice project man...subscribed

[brokeawd]

Nice.

[blue91]

Gotta love California cars: not a speck of rust! Nice!

[kronus]

So what happened to the Dirty Birdie bumper?

[swade]

Are you planning on running the blitz power meter and ebc on the new car? If not PM me ;)

swade

[TSimage]

NOOOOOO.....we want more pix and updates....nice project man...subscribed

Nice.

Thanks guys, I'll try not to disappoint.;) :P

Gotta love California cars: not a speck of rust! Nice!

Yeah man, I see some of these cars from back east and I cringe. I gotta give you guys props on that, I have a 1965 truck that has less rust on it than most of the BRAND NEW cars back east.:( :dunno:

[TSimage]

So what happened to the Dirty Birdie bumper?

Its still on it, well not in those pics but its still there. I will be redoing the Falco bumper the exact same way but them time I have a better Idea of what I'd like to accomplish so it should be so bad. :D

[TSimage]

Are you planning on running the blitz power meter and ebc on the new car? If not PM me ;)

swade

I wanted to but some douche bag broke into my car and stole the SCREEN... Retard didn't take anything else but the SAFC and the Blitz screen. He even took the time to reach in and unplug the tiny little plug that connects it to the main brain box.. Dumba$$ can't even use it.

So I still have the solenoid and all the lines, just no screen.:mad: :tat:

[TSimage]

Falco FTW:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/falco.jpg

A little White Falcon Zord anyone?:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/falcon2.jpg

[TSimage]

I've done so many of these its hard to keep track some times...

Now that my motor and tranny are gone I'm kind of ina pinch to decide what rout I want to go. The adventurous side of me wants to go 2.1l destroker but the simpler/realistic side says bulletproof 2.0l. At the end of the day my hear has been set on a higher displacement motor for a while and I figure if I can build a 2.4l that can at least attain 9-9.5K rpms it'll out preform a 2.0 at 10K.

The power curve of something like that would embarrass even the most heavily built 2.0ls because of the age old saying. "There's no replacement for displacement."

Any gurus on the subject feel free to chime in.

[Asmodeus]

I like the 2.4L everyone knows that. But although I am unfamiliar with the GTK's specific exhaust flow requirements to sustain a given pressure ratio... I think it will be safe to make an assumption in this case. Now, out of my normal element of do, see, replicate = general consistency of fact, and repeatable results. I could be wrong.

BUT, assuming this takes a similar form to most 2.4 / 2.1 / 2.0 considerations... when we are sizing an engine to suit a turbo, instead of the other way around. Anything 35R+ falls into 2.0L category. Its not biblical, its just the way it is. The rpm needed to maintain the needed flow requirements of the bigger turbochargers to exact the power they are capable of falls outside of the range of the 2.4L. The 2.1L falls in between, but remember the rod length becomes an issue when the power creeps into the 800 range.

So, we are left with the typical powerband of a 2.0L built to withstand 10k rpm. And you will use all of it.

The 2.4L is nice but is not sustainable at 10k rpm. It is not impossible, but the load encountered with that rod ratio at that rpm is not suited for a long life. If any. Every trick in the book may indeed help. But it will not hold enough practical longevity to make it worth the cost. The shift in the powerband is not enough to warrant the cap on the revs when sizing a 2.4L with that large of a turbo. The trade off is too large, you lose more than you gain. The moderate increase in streetability will not counteract the lack of redline to be able to drive that turbo into its happy place. It will STILL be laggy, and once you get it up into the pressure ratio's it is able to deliver you will run out of tach.

The 2.1L if you were going for a well balanced build 37/40R in size, or never planned on working the GTK to its full potential would be a decent option. The additional dwell time generated by the long rod equates to better fill time, and exaggerates the breathing ability of the still small displacement engine. It also equates to better knock resistance from my experience. But if your goal is to push it into a power range that will halt the earth's rotation... this is not the motor either.

The 2.4L is by far the most streetable engine of the lot. Paired with a 35R I don't think it gets better. Its not the ability of the engine to take the punishment, but more about the engine's ability to rev high enough to feed the big boy turbo's what they need.

I am not the final word, and there are ways around just about anything. But the rod ratio of the 2.4L is its achilles heel. I'm not saying you can't zip one up to 10k rpm. But I am. Altering the stroke, or rod length to drop the r/r may be of assistance in gaining more tach. But its also where the 2.4L is pulling its added displacement.

There are a few variations of a 2.2L around now. But I am not as familiar with it, or its specifics, so I will just mention it. From what I remember, its probably next best for your needs, aside from the 2.0L.

This is why there are specific variations of the 2.0L we all know and love that have popped up over the years. But the 2.0L still remains. For a specific goal, and setup the others may be the right choice. I can't see that being the case for you.

World beater = 2.0L
Its the compromise between the variations.
Strength, revs, displacement.
2.0L A+, A, C
2.1L B, A+, B
--------------RACE/BIG TURBO
2.3L B, B, A
2.4L B, C, A+
--------------STREET/MEDIUM TURBO
Again, not biblical, just a generalization assuming you use good parts, and put it together extremely well.

The chart may seem biased to the higher revving engines; but factor in making a transmission shift up there... and it balances out really fast.

[TSimage]

We've all seen 2.3ls pushed to 9K.. With new additions such as the Kiggly girdle, lightened crank and a few other touches I don't see why you couldn't achieve a 9.5K redline with a 2.4l

At 9K a 2.3 stroker is doing what a 2.0 could do at 9.5-10k, Marco and many others proved this theory. I'm just wondering why this couldn't be applied to a 2.4l.

I figure my spool will be roughly 500rpms sooner, this is a flat out guess. this moves my power band a lot lower and if I am only loosing a couple hundred RPMs up top I don't see how a 2.0 can out shine a 2.4l by so much.

This car will see street time, but is by no means a DD.

Its a combination of the Dirty Birdie (street dd) and the Phoenix (pure drag) to give me a drag car, that can be driven on the street...

Right now I'm so inbetween the 2 that basically the choice to run one will come down to which one becomes available to me first. With a few minor tweaks and a valvetrain/transmission that can support it, I should be able to put down close to 2.0 HP numbers and even more TQ..

:dunno:

[kronus]

Falco FTW:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/falco.jpg

A little White Falcon Zord anyone?:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/falcon2.jpg

Is it sad that I immediately thought of Starfox 64 when I saw the title of your thread? And I used to watch Power Rangers too.:o :chair:

[TSimage]

Is it sad that I immediately thought of Starfox 64 when I saw the title of your thread? And I used to watch Power Rangers too.:o :chair:

Nothin's sad about it haha. Its the generation we were a part of.:P

[Asmodeus]

I was specific in saying it can be done. I just wouldn't expect the same kind of longevity as an equally built 2.0L.

[TSimage]

I was specific in saying it can be done. I just wouldn't expect the same kind of longevity as an equally built 2.0L.

Hmmm, I too saw that as an issue but I'm just wondering who else has pushed the limit. I'd hate to be another guinea but I guess you gotta do what you gotta do.:(

Right now my first goal is low 9s in the 1/4 which is more than enough to be a contender in the street class which was recently won by a car that only runs mid 11s (11.3 best, but averages mid 11s, wont with a 11.7) Ibelieve the few CMIs before that the winners were also in the 11s.

[TSimage]

I was looking for this picture earlier and found it,

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/dsm22.jpg

Current suspension consit of Megan Racing COs (32 way adj.) and RMDSM rear sways with Energy suspension bushings all the way around the car. I'll be holding onto this setup for the time being and even though its overkill for the drag strip I still like the fact that I can turn. :P

[Pookers]

Hey bro good to seeyour still up to no good......lol

Its lookin good man, get a fuckin star fox sticker or your gayer than aids...
Good luck man and good to hear from ya again.

[TSimage]

Hey bro good to seeyour still up to no good......lol

Its lookin good man, get a fuckin star fox sticker or your gayer than aids...
Good luck man and good to hear from ya again.

Thanks for the kind words bro. I'll definitely have a Falco sticker on my helmet at the very least or maybe a custom somethin painted up.. lol

More to come, looking to do big things in the not so distant future. I narrowed down a couple houses I want and we'll see if I get em.:D

[reddsmhatch]

nice build man, always top notch work here!

[TravisB]

nice build. i wouldnt go over a 2.1L setup though. There is a reason some of the fastest cars are still running them.

[TSimage]

nice build man, always top notch work here!

I'm tryin'! hahaha I need to be a bit more focused.:mad: :o

[TSimage]

nice build. i wouldnt go over a 2.1L setup though. There is a reason some of the fastest cars are still running them.

Definitely my most recent thoughts. I'm pushed to try something different but at the same time I want something that will work and be competitive. I think I'll be going far enough out on a limb running the GTK1000 when everyone else is running Garrett and BW turbos. We shall see. More pics coming soon.:tree:

[french_hustler]

More pics coming soon.
Can't wait, this is a sick build!

[TSimage]

Can't wait, this is a sick build!

Awww boo.. You're just sayin that.. :gay:

Hahaha, fareal though, thanks for the encouragement. I'm running out to SMA today to get the black shell ready to pick up, after that I'll be grabbing some more pics of the shell.

Soon I'll have my tire/rim setup to be able to take pics of that too. just waiting on word from Jake.

Here's the current POP:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/10k.jpg

[b00stedtalon2]

Looking good. What size an lines are on the outlets of your fuel cell. -8 or -10?

[TSimage]

They are -10 an in and -8 an out, probably gunna stick with a straight 8/8

[RaginAsian]

There you go with another great looking build. I really like your concepts and goals for the car. Just like your other builds I'm gonna definitely keep and eye on this thread.

[TSimage]

There you go with another great looking build. I really like your concepts and goals for the car. Just like your other builds I'm gonna definitely keep and eye on this thread.

Thanks bro, I'm just tryin to stay ahead of the curve.. A lot of people are coming up here in NorCal so I'm glad I can offer that push. Hopefully this will be my last build since the only way I could go bigger is a 45r and that aint happening any time soon..

Or is it?...:cool:

[tsi2psi]

Is the car going to be registered still?

[TSimage]

Is the car going to be registered still?

Yeah, as soon as I figure some stuff out. It has NV plates and I have family who own property in NV so I might try to register it there. If not I'll have to look around and see what I can do.

It WILL be a street driven vehicle.. That's the whole goal. Single digits... On the street. :evillaugh:

[flexnuts02]

Looking good as always, I can't wait to see the tuck when it is done. I think it is awesome that youre going inbetween strip and street too definitly going to be a nasty car!

Keep the progress pics coming!:tree:

[TSimage]

Looking good as always, I can't wait to see the tuck when it is done. I think it is awesome that youre going inbetween strip and street too definitly going to be a nasty car!

Keep the progress pics coming!:tree:

Thanks again bro, I'll definitely try and get something else going on here soon.

I found me a new motor setup so now its all about whether I am going to stay manual or go auto.

Since I decided to stay 2.0 I figure I'd stay manual too, the price of a dogbox is going to be the only real hindrance to finishing this build. Between that and buying a new house I'm pretty much grounded.:(

Building a street car with my drag car parts is going to be the best of both worlds for me. Everyone thought I was crazy about 8 months ago when I first picked up this 9 second proven setup, never everyone else is trying to do the same. I've been laggin' so hopefully I'll justify it by showing up "fashionably late" I might not do it first, but I guarantee I'll do it the best. ;)

[brandonzero]

holy hell thats clean nice build i wish mine was that clean and I had money for coilovers : (

[Pookers]

Glad to hear you stuck with the 2.0 man. Can't wait to see more pics dude.

Oh and good luck on the house hunting. Are you gonna buy one in sac, pleasant grove area is nice.

[TSimage]

holy hell thats clean nice build i wish mine was that clean and I had money for coilovers : (

It's a love hate thing, I like the good stuff but its killing my wallet. :( Oh well. Its all for the love ya know.

[TSimage]

Glad to hear you stuck with the 2.0 man. Can't wait to see more pics dude.

Oh and good luck on the house hunting. Are you gonna buy one in sac, pleasant grove area is nice.

I'm lookin' to stay in SE Sac like Elk Grove area. I was thinkin' about movin' back to Serano Park (El Dorado Hills)

Nicest place so far was the property sitting on the 18th hole on WildHawk. 4500 sqft on a 25,000 sqft lot.

I'm getting cold feet so I might hold off until things are a little more secure at my union.

[TSimage]

Just a tiny update,

In my quest to push the envelope I finally decided on sticking to the 2.0l platform.

Once everything comes in I'll be sending it to either Rob's or Del's to get tore down and put back together..

Block:

Groden AL rods
Ross pistons (might be switching to Weisco 1400HDs)
Buschur lightened/knife edged crank
ACL bearings
Kiggly girdle
O-ringed
Moroso pan
All ARP hardware
Billey pulleys


Head:

Buschur Stage 3 port work
Ferra SS +1mm
Bronze guides
Kiggly beehive springs
FP3x Cams *current*
FP5r/FP11 Cams *future*
AEM True time adj. cam gears
Blue kevlar Greddy t-belt

Magnus polished RACE SMIM

Delux NOS direct injection nitrous system *purge, heater, opener, etc. etc.*

This of course will be pushing a GTK1000 which still is uncharted territory.

Only question left is whether or not I'm going to go built auto or stick or manual dogbox... At the end of the day it might just come down to availability when the time comes. We shall see...

On a side note, my Hoosier QTPs and 11lb slip streams should be arriving within a couple weeks or so depending on how smooth shipment goes. Its all coming together a bit faster than I expected.

More to come.

[TSimage]

Well.. looks like I'll be going auto, so stay tuned. I'll be getting the pics from Erik hopefully tonight and I'll be posting up.

I'll stay AWD until competition starts giving me problems then I'll weld it up and go FWD FTW. :evillaugh:

[TSimage]

Magnus Race SMIM with NOS Fogger setup:

*sneak peak*
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/DSCF9327.jpg

Short block on the pallet and ready to go:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/DSCF9328.jpg

Cust. built ATF AUTOMATIC transmission:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/DSCF9331.jpg


Everything minus the transmission setup will be here next week (9/9 and 9/10) but you know how UPS is.. lol. Considering I'm in Cali and the parts are coming from FL that's pretty friggin' fast.

The girdle will be here at the end of this week and will be waiting for the block to come in so I can tear it down and send it to my machine shop.

Got me a set of 1600 FIC injectors which will be here by the end of the week, I almost bit the bullet and picked up the new 1650 FICs but that fundage is better spent else where.

Next up is selling my FP3xs so I can pick up the FP11/5R setup and the Kiggly behives.

And finally, the MO for the wheels should have gotten to Jake by now and at the latest Thurs. hopefully meaning the wheels will be sent out Fri./Sat./Mon. either way those should be here by the end of next week or the beginning of there after.

Stay tuned.. As more comes or any changes are made I'll keep everyone posted.:tat:

[Pookers]

Lookin good man, keep it up.

[TSimage]

Lookin good man, keep it up.

Thanks bro! :cool:

Well for another update, the first pieces of the new build are starting to arrive.

"Giggly" Girdles:

These things are truely badass:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/girdle2.jpg

If you have ever held these in your hand or seen them in person, you can DEFINITELY tell that they'd do one hell of a job stabilizing the independent mains in the 6 bolt block.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/girdle.jpg

Its most definitely no holds barred this time around. :chair:

The idea is to chase down the AWD auto record and at the same time make myself competitive in the Street Tuner/T4 class.

[destroydsm]

Whats happining with the caged up, full lexan race chasis you have? pheniox?

[TSimage]

Whats happining with the caged up, full lexan race chasis you have? pheniox?

That's the FFTec chassis you speak of. From what I was told Sean has some pretty big plans for that build. At the end of the day it wasn't what I dreamed. A full race car running 8s isn't half as impressive as a street car running low 9s.

I really wanna push myself with this car and see what it can do and still be street driven. The whole goal is to be able to drive to the track and back something the Phoenix build couldn't have done, the 1gallon fuel cell didn't help.:P

I'd love ot be the first auto AWD in the 8s but only time will tell. I'm closer than I thought I'd be, but I'm still a ways off from completing this build.

Look for Sean and the guys at FFTec to finish up that car and one day you guys will see it at the track. I doubt any time soon however but hopefully not too long. ;)

Start car -> Drive to Track -> Pass 'spec -> Run singles -> Pack up and take the GF out to grab a bite -> Drive home. :evillaugh:

[destroydsm]

Haha yea i know what you mean def awsome to have a car that can be drivin to the track and run good times and then drive home.

[TSimage]

I figured I'd shed some more light on the turbo I'm running. To truely understand my decision you have to grasp a little more of my past:

When I first got the car I had this little guy right here:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/TO4B.jpg

The good 'ol TO4B V-Trim..

12"X31"X3" Ebay intercooler setup and 2.5" piping of course set with a blow-through setup:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/ICP018.jpg

I love the streetability of this turbo, from stoplight to stoplight I was a beast, as far as pump goes its probably the best pumpgas turbo I have owned with the 62-1 a VERY close second.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/DirtyBirdie020.jpg

Peak-a-boo! I see you!

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/to4.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/turbo.jpg

Its a smaller framed turbo but when you compare it to these guys running Evo3 16gs and what not:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/garretvsevo3.jpg
To4b>16g

As it sat in the pictures bellow I passed smog with flying colors and then went to the track 3 days later and ran an 11.7 :cool:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/DirtyBirdie004.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/DirtyBirdie007.jpg

Of course dumping more than 400whp and 350wtq to the ground:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/newdyno.jpg

I salute you Mr V-Trim... You're the one that started it all.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/to4b-1.jpg

But mid 11s and 400 whp wasn't enough... What the V-trim started wasn't just me modding my Talon, but started me so far above the stock 15/14s 14b that to me THAT was what stock is and I wasn't impressed, nor satisfied.:tat:

[TSimage]

Next up was the turbo most consider the absolute limit for the street:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/GT37x4.jpg

That's, the 3582r. And not just any bland off the shelf 35r this was the cream of the crop (before the HTAs) Polished anti-surge S housing and an ass load of bling:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/Upgrade.jpg

PTE bolt on housing:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/GT35x5.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/GT35x6.jpg

Custom 4.5" core short routed IC setup with 3" aluminum piping and SARD R2D2 BOV:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071555.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071552.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071551a.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071604a.jpg

Here's a comparison from my To4B V-Trim IC setup and the new 35r setup:

UICP:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071531a.jpg

LICP:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071531.jpg

(Notice how much shorter the new setup was, not to mention it was AL piping vs my old steel piping meaning I saved a LOT of weight which I pretty much gained back with the massive IC:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071521.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1122071520.jpg

I love that turbo and it was flat out a beast..

Period.

As usual I had to pay more attention to detail and make sure my engine bay was in tip-top shape:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1204071234.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1204071236.jpg

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/1204071240.jpg

Even after I went T3 (.82 housing) I still wasn't satisfied. Simply put, i had created a monster.. :chainsaw:

[TSimage]

So what did I do... I put it up FS! :(

Fortunately there was another member who wanted something smaller so he traded me his T4 40r for my 35r.

This thing was pretty massive:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0301081413.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0301081410a2.jpg

Just look at that thing:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0302081808.jpg

The rare Precision T4 .68 quick spooling hot side:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0302081814.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0302081811.jpg

Funky looking turbo but I expected huge things from it until I begin doing more research and the numbers people were getting weren't badass enough. I figured if I was going to spend the money to go T4 that I was going to live up to my motto and "Go BiG!"

The 40r simply wasn't going to cut it. :blowingup:

[TSimage]

This was still some time around the beginning of this year, I was power crazed and out of control. :freak:

Durring this same time I figured I'd track the Talon since it had full suspension work and there was no reason it should just sit there.

The idea was I wanted a turbo that would push enough power so I wouldn't miss the 35r but at the same time wouldn't be such a dog on pump or sh*tty at the local auto x and Salmon Falls/Hwy 49 runs.

The answer came in the form of a very unfamiliar turbo:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0217080715.jpg

The 62-1 which is a quick spooling BB turbo with a punch similar to a 35r but with a much more badass lowend/midrange:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/P2180259.jpg

Sounded pretty good too:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/th_P2180257.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/?action=view&current=P2180257.flv)

But as you figured it, I got bored of the idea before I really even got into it.. It was quite badass though:

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c246/J1D1H1_/upgrade-1.jpg

So what could possibly satisfy someone who dumped a pump gas, smogable 11s street beast, scoops a 35r, gets bored by it, trades for a 40r and sells it cause he's not impressed by it and then parts out a bonefide track star?! :dunno:

There's a new sheriff in town:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081844a.jpg

Stay tuned... :rockon:

[MLutin]

Damn! That car sounded Beastly as hell.

[Ripper_XX]

Can we get another pic of your GF holding the turbo :D

[TSimage]

Damn! That car sounded Beastly as hell.

That 62-1 setup was a dream.

Can we get another pic of your GF holding the turbo :D


Ask and yee shall receive:

She absolutely hates these pics because she's all dressed down with no make-up on hangin' in the garage but I say those are the best kind. Not feelin' the chicks with the make up and cheesy highlights in the first place..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081841.jpg

Now THIS is a turbo..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081839b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081845.jpg

The best part about it is its not overly big like the 42r sized turbos (housing dimentions are slightly larger than a 40r) but it puts down the big boy type power. All in all I was able to accomplish what I wanted to do.

Find a turbo that can compete with a Large housed 42r in a body that wasn't too much bigger than the 40r I got rid of.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081838.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081839.jpg

I'll post some more up later with the manifold and wgs to give you an idea on how the custom top mount is set up, but right now I gotta get back to helpin' out my boy get his 2g back on the road..:chair: AUGH 2gs!!:created:

[TSimage]

Its been kinda crazy lately with me getting all my boys DSMs running. It seems lik eI'm living my DSM dreams through my boys but I guess you do what you gotta do.

Sacramento has really came up on our DSM game and we even have a couple single digit guys out here as is. (I hope to become one especially since on of the guys has his up FS)

But I'll periodically give some updates on their cars too since in the scheme of things its all part of the bigger plan. Especially the closest 2 to me (family)

One is a 2g show car that with my help will be a go car as well:

Up until last weekend this car hadn't move for like 3 YEARS, but it's back up now and as soon as we work out the last kinks and undo a few things and redo the the right way it'll be a beast on the streets too:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/jus3.jpg

Might not be to everyone's taste but you guys know how much I despise body kits, but when done tastefully they can sometimes work out:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/jus1.jpg

Still carrying 3years of dirty and sun abuse but we will revive it. With some new rims and fresh paint we'll be golden.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/jus2.jpg

Yep that is a SEAMLESS wide body kit with cust integrated Supra tails, shaved hatch and all functionable vents.

Love it or hate it... But you have to respect it.

[Ripper_XX]

Deffently hate the wheels I can tell you that...



TSimage, your G/F looks like a keeper, i mean any G/F that looks at a turbo like it's her baby... is a keeper LOL

[TSimage]

Pretty much taken from my GTK thread:


I've had the set up for probably 7 months or so (yes I have been sitting on a single digit setup for ever. I could been the first, but I'm in no rush to rush perfection :P ) I got a lot of it from my buddy Raif who took this setup, threw it on his car and ran a 9.6 with zero traction and a half ass tune. And a later high of 150mph :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/gtk2.jpg

9.6s run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2IpfDL3blI

The turbo was sent back and replaced with a brand new one at which point I picked the setup off of him only days after trading my 35r for a 40r. (see timeline above)

[TSimage]

Showed up in a beat and tapped box, needless to say after you pick up a setup of this caliber (Can it get any better?) You're sh*ttin bricks when UPS/FedEx pulls up and the box looks like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0317081801a.jpg

But upon further inspection everything was ok and no one at the distribution center had to die.:tat:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0317081911a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0317081809.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0317081858.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/gtkx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0317081814-1.jpg

Wall paper anyone?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0317081904.jpg

By FAR the sexiest turbo in the industry.

[TSimage]

Finally got around to taking all of the heat wrap off since I'll be re-wrapping it in black. It was mummified to the max, I can only imagine what a pain it's going to be to re do it but it'll be worth it in the scheme of things:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081510.jpg

Purdyful!

[TSimage]

Here's the manifold a little more defined. Dual 38mm equal length setup.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081814a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081812a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081813a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081814.jpg

On a side note, other than having the most badass turbo setup possible.. the motor and other parts will be here tomorrow. :eek:

Hopefully it'll be a good day.:happy:

[TSimage]

With 38mm TiALs and their DTs.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081815.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081829d.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081828.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081832a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0808081833a.jpg

[trinistylz2002]

I'm just a small ant living in the world of dsm giants.

Wow man, just wow!

[TSimage]

I'm just a small ant living in the world of dsm giants.

Wow man, just wow!


Yeah thanks bro!

We have a few guys up here going with some big builds like my boy Edwin and Phet. Both going with 42r sized turbos. We also already have a couple 42r sized guys running around out here so it kind of inspired me to keep it goin. I've had this setup for a LONG time but never felt like building it.

It sat in a box for the longest. Its nice to see a lot of guys doing really big builds out here and then we have a few others such as my boy Donald, my cousin Justin (guy with the Burple wide body Eclipse I posted) and my cousin Eddy with the sleeper/super clean 1g I spoke about in my last build are going with bigger setups ranging from 62-1s to 3065s to 35rs and 40rs. They aren't big boy turbos but they are definitely going to change the DSM scene around here which has spiked in the last year or so. And I'm glad they are sticking to 40r and lower.. less competition for me. It's getting rough out here! :tat: :P

And on a side note, the motor arrived. I wanna shoot out a special 'thanks' to the dumbass UPS man for rolling it on its side and crushing my dipstick and denting the filter and then dumping oil out everywhere near my garage... But its all fixable. The Moroso pan is f n ridiculous and other than the laughable pallet it was on I'm satisfied with what I got.

As soon as I get a chance I'll tear into it and check it out, check the stretch on the AL rods and then install the girdle. I'm still wiating on the second big box of parts which will have the new manifold, head, nitrous setup and other goodies.

:D

[TSimage]

I don't know what is up with me and poorly packaged boxes, but for some reason whenever I order something the condition I receive the box in is always horrifying..

My second batch of parts arived looking something like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/newness.jpg

Just imagine how my heart dropped watching the second retard UPS man of the day rolling my box off the truck and hearing metal on metal as sh*t clanged together...

And then this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/newness3.jpg

:(

So I opened it up and the packaging left much to be desired...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/newness4.jpg

But upon first inspection everything is ok minus the obvious dings and scratches everything received. :mad:

It wasn't too bad however and when I finally dug in to swim through and search for my parts like the ball pit at a kids restaurant I picked up my Magnus intake manifold and all was good.

I've seen manifolds from every single company that makes them, cast, sheet metal, extruded AL, they don't hold a candle to what this thing looks like. And its MASSIVE. I was in the market for a JMF Drag but this thing might even be bigger than that (definitely looks better).

Can you b*tches say, "DUAL POWER ADDERS!"

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/newness2.jpg
I am not to be f'd wit. :takethat:

:evillaugh:

I'll get more detailed pics when I get back home.:D

[dsm614]

Hey now... the box I sent you the fuel lines in was fine dammit!

I cant wait to get to the motor crap after my chassis is finished... but I bet your happy!

[TSimage]

Hey now... the box I sent you the fuel lines in was fine dammit!

I cant wait to get to the motor crap after my chassis is finished... but I bet your happy!

The funny thing about that is I might not even use any of it now.. LOL!

Those ProClassic lines are so badass but I have so many SS lines that I'd never be able to switch em all over.:(

Might just put them back up FS to fund the new project...

[TSimage]

I got a few PMs about the NOS setup on the Magnus race manifold.

This thing is a BEAST, simply put.. I was in the market for a JMF drag manifold purely based on size but I can't imagine it being bigger than this thing (It wouldn't fit...) Plus Magnus tends to be much more Bling than JMF so I was proud of the purchase.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081502.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081502a.jpg

These are 150hp jets :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081503.jpg

Its massive:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081504.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081504a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081505.jpg

They go hand 'n hand:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081506.jpg

When I first saw this nitrous line on Eriks car I fell in love... Its by far the most A-symmetrical and intricately thought out layout.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081509.jpg

Pure sex.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0916081509a.jpg

[RaginAsian]

Damn, that is some bling!!! Good shit mang!

[TSimage]

Damn, that is some bling!!! Good shit mang!

It goes hand n hand with the turbo you know... Just gunna have one of those engine bays that make ya sh*t ya self. :P

I'm just trying to touch a lot of ground that is pretty much gray area. The use of the GT-K1000... Magnus Race manifold... Automatic tranny... Manual valve body (possibly a trans lock) Just for the hell of it. Only thing left would be to do it all on E85 but the only E85 pump we have in Sac is a private pump.

It's gunna be fun.:D :cool:

[Ripper_XX]

Damn, just how much hp are you going for anyway?

[K_Mans_TSI]

Is that Xtremedrag's old manifold?

I know the Magnus is big but I think the JMF has more plenum volume from what I remember.

[french_hustler]

Dude everything is so well documented. The car is going to be a beast!

I'm loving this...
Stay reppin' Nor Cal my dude.

[TSimage]

Damn, just how much hp are you going for anyway?

Lookin' to be the first Auto AWD in the 8s, fingers crossed...

But for now, realistically, I'm lookin for 9s off bottle, and low 9s on.

The idea is to at least surpass the current Auto AWD record and put myself in a very competitive position in the Street Tuner class which pretty much ran by 10s cars right now. I'm going for over kill.:tat: :P

Is that Xtremedrag's old manifold?

I know the Magnus is big but I think the JMF has more plenum volume from what I remember.

Yep it is. Erik is his name. You could very well be right about the JMF considering all the angles on this thing. Either way it goes it would definitely be close.. Not enough to make a difference performance wise. I'll sacrafice a little volume in place of aesthetics just this once.

I'll make up for it by getting rid of the ceramic coated hot side on my GTK and replace it with a much bigger divided 1.15 a/r hotside.

[TSimage]

Dude everything is so well documented. The car is going to be a beast!

I'm loving this...
Stay reppin' Nor Cal my dude.


Thanks bro. ;)

Where the hell have you been? Haven't seen you in here since the beginning haha. But I'm glad I'm making the guys in NorCal proud, I also wanna rep for the Auto guys now too and anyone else who is insane like me in making a single digit street car.

Stay tuned, more to come. I figured my wheels would be here by the end of the week but Jake hasn't even sent them out yet. :rolleyes: Its bad enough to have to use a MO which takes for ever, but then you gotta wait another 3 weeks for the parts hahaha, oh well. I guess he's been busy with the Evo.:dunno:

More to come, hopefully some pics and info on the motor this weekend. Possibly some more info on the head as well..:tree:

[TSimage]

Some might notice the change in title...

Its more a less a better representation of the build. Stepping as far out of the box as possible to bring some new ideas into the mix.

The uses of the GT-K1000 setup which was only done once and even then never documented or pushed.

The use of a manual body automatic. The first time it has been used within the DSM community, period.

And a few other left field parts/ideas. *Possibly DS-Map as a tuning platform*

I love being able to feed ideas off of all the members of the board. Threads like my last couple builds had a boat load of post/views and really help me grasp a few new concepts the inevitably led to this Falco build. I don't claim to be the premier authority on all things DSM so any other high and low points anyone sees in the build feel free to let me know. If anyone also has any questions as to how or why I did something, post up and let me know.

Once again, thanks Lex for changing it for me and to everyone else,

I'll try not to disappoint.;)

[URBANRCR]

Very nice man i always enjoy your builds.....all of them lol.:rockon: keep up the good work!

[Got Insulin?]

Looking rediculous, man.

[TSimage]

Very nice man i always enjoy your builds.....all of them lol.:rockon: keep up the good work!

Looking rediculous, man.

I appreciate it as always guys.

As of now I'm waiting to move the motor into storage so I can get some mock up picks of it.

Made some big moves and went back to work so this thing is definitely going to be done before years end as I hoped. Next on the list is getting the tranny. After that I'll need to do the body work so I can have the car resprayed (including the engine bay)

I say, build the best damn car you can. And this time I'm doing it from the ground up. Best of the best parts, all in my/other friends driveways/ garages, by hand. Just like the good ol' days! ;)

[PurpleHazeTSi]

wait, no offense but you think the GTK1000 with out perform a 42R? LOL.

[TSimage]

wait, no offense but you think the GTK1000 with out perform a 42R? LOL.

My question to you is, do you know ANYTHING about the actual turbo? LMFAO!

That's the point of me using it. Too many ignorant people who have no knowledge other than what they heard from their Japanese pen pals third uncle twice removed's dog groomers sons go-kart tuner from Switzerland..

The ONLY GT-K1000 I have seen put on a DSM ran mid 9s off bottle on a 5yr old motor and a mediocre tune. Anyway you want to slice it, that's 42r territory and in different conditions with a better/fresher motor and a more extreme tune, its faster.

Garretts not the king anymore. Pretty much the GT-K and Berg Warner turbos are where its at. If the GT-K doesn't pan out I'll be going BW. But there are no doubts that this turbo will live up to my expectations and make me a contender. In the end that's all I really want.

The idea is to try out new things. There are plenty of avenues that people keep doing over, and over, and over, and over... Bo-ring. At the end of the day, its gunna be sexy and fast regardless. That's the goal.

[TSimage]

Here's some specs on the GT-Ks for some of the other uninformed:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y72/90blackcrx/spec2-1.jpg

Bottom line this turbo was built specifically to take out the GT series turbos. And so far they have been out performing them, just as the BWs have.

[tstkl]

I just have to say it,...


I'll believe it when I see a 7.6 off the bottle

[TSimage]

I just have to say it,...


I'll believe it when I see a 7.6 off the bottle


:confused: Who said anything about 7.6s?

[PurpleHazeTSi]

My question to you is, do you know ANYTHING about the actual turbo? LMFAO!


If it is better than a 42R, why did he sell you the GTK to go to a 42? Why did he Make 200+ MORE hp with the 42R than he did with the GTK? I know more about that turbo than you think :P

[MufflerBearing]

GTKs are nice. But i dont see it replacing the large framed garrett turbos. GL with the build, looks nice.

[TSimage]

If it is better than a 42R, why did he sell you the GTK to go to a 42? Why did he Make 200+ MORE hp with the 42R than he did with the GTK? I know more about that turbo than you think :P

Unfortunately (once again) your facts were not in order before you made your post, considering I stay in touch with the guy periodically I'll tell you straight from his mouth...

The GTK was ran on a beat motor on a less than perfect tune with no traction until late 3rd gear and no waste gates..The turbo Raif actually runs now is a 45/42r hybrid and it made 940whp At 60psi on a brand spankin new 10:1 high compression motor built and an impeccable tune//:rolleyes: ... No I'm not yelling I'm just highlighting facts.

So all in all the car made a little over 100 more hp on 15-20 more PSI, a newly built high compression motor, and a turbo worth more than even the above average DSM (60psi... tuned to the hills on a freaking 10:1 motor how do you compare that to a GTK on a test run ona beat 8.5:1 motor running without wastegates maybe holding 40-45psi so once again :rofl:)...

Raif does some crazy stuff and I have all the respect in the world for the guy. He tries things others are to scared or in many cases, too ignorant to pursue. And so far has succeeded. I definitely see him easily running 8s this year. He's even talking about doing it OFF BOTTLE! :eek:

[TSimage]

GTKs are nice. But i dont see it replacing the large framed garrett turbos. GL with the build, looks nice.

So far, everyone switching to GTKs from Garretts just like everyone switching from Garretts to Borg and Warners are seeing gains. In power and even more so in spool. These non ball bearing turbos all spool faster than Garretts newest DBB products.

Hell look what the HTAs its embarrassing/disappointing (coming from being a previous 35r owner *among many other G turbos*) how much improvement it made over the existing Garrett line of turbos, they're sleeping. I was pretty much a Garrett exclusive owner, but there are better option out there now. Its time for some people to man up and try them out. Hell if the GT-K1000 doesn't do what I want, there's always BW.:D :cool:

On a side note I got some more parts today *pics later tonight* and took those comparison photos between the street Magnus and race version like I have been asked. *pics also later tonight*

[TSimage]

Unfortunately (once again) your facts were not in order before you made your post, considering I stay in touch with the guy periodically I'll tell you straight from his mouth...

The GTK was ran on a beat motor on a less than perfect tune with no traction until late 3rd gear and no waste gates..The turbo Raif actually runs now is a 45/42r hybrid and it made 940whp At 60psi on a brand spankin new 10:1 high compression motor built and an impeccable tune//:rolleyes: ... No I'm not yelling I'm just highlighting facts.

So all in all the car made a little over 100 more hp on 15-20 more PSI, a newly built high compression motor, and a turbo worth more than even the above average DSM (60psi... tuned to the hills on a freaking 10:1 motor how do you compare that to a GTK on a test run ona beat 8.5:1 motor running without wastegates maybe holding 40-45psi so once again :rofl:)...

Raif does some crazy stuff and I have all the respect in the world for the guy. He tries things others are to scared or in many cases, too ignorant to pursue. And so far has succeeded. I definitely see him easily running 8s this year. He's even talking about doing it OFF BOTTLE! :eek:

I couldn't edit anything but to fix somethings, the old motor was actually only like an 8:1 he says and I meant to say he made 200 more not 100 more. Also he hit me up and let me know he was at holding only 40psi. So it is in fact 20 more psi on a MUCH higher compression/better built/better condition motor.

But then again the turbo he has, most people cant afford.. and its a much more expensive than any 42r or 45r by itself. Ya gotta pay to play.

[PurpleHazeTSi]

Unfortunately (once again) your facts were not in order before you made your post, considering I stay in touch with the guy periodically I'll tell you straight from his mouth...

The GTK was ran on a beat motor on a less than perfect tune with no traction until late 3rd gear and no waste gates..The turbo Raif actually runs now is a 45/42r hybrid and it made 940whp At 60psi on a brand spankin new 10:1 high compression motor built and an impeccable tune//:rolleyes: ... No I'm not yelling I'm just highlighting facts.

So all in all the car made a little over 100 more hp on 15-20 more PSI, a newly built high compression motor, and a turbo worth more than even the above average DSM (60psi... tuned to the hills on a freaking 10:1 motor how do you compare that to a GTK on a test run ona beat 8.5:1 motor running without wastegates maybe holding 40-45psi so once again :rofl:)...

Raif does some crazy stuff and I have all the respect in the world for the guy. He tries things others are to scared or in many cases, too ignorant to pursue. And so far has succeeded. I definitely see him easily running
8s this year. He's even talking about doing it OFF BOTTLE! :eek:


BAHAHAHAHA! you're telling me to get my facts straight? i live 10 mins from the kid, and he happends to be a good friend of mine.

1) it was 933, not 940hp.
2) 40psi, Not 60
3) 10.1 comp motor is news to me.
4) Its a 42R PERIOD!

[TSimage]

BAHAHAHAHA! you're telling me to get my facts straight? i live 10 mins from the kid, and he happends to be a good friend of mine.

1) it was 933, not 940hp.
2) 40psi, Not 60
3) 10.1 comp motor is news to me.
4) Its a 42R PERIOD!

Yes I am telling you to get your facts straight because not only did he tell me about it but I just texted him the hilarity from your post.

Maybe you should go talk to the kid yourself and not assume.

1) 940/933 same thing.. lets not nit pick because you haven't a foot to stand on to begin with. (His words not mine)

2) He said it was at 60psi, 3 times.. I doubt it was a typo

3) 10:1 is probably news to you because, well, you really don't know what you are talking about

4) Its a 42r period that cost more than a 45r. He specifically said it it is a 45/42r hybrid, and it is a custom built turbo.. Any way you chop it. I can re build a 4088r to the point its a 4094 but do you still call ti a 4088?

See the difference is, you are spouting off out of what you supposedly heard from some guy named Bob.. I simply reposted EXACTLY in most cases WORD FOR WORD what RAIF HIMSELF told me numerous times and I double checked on it TODAY because unlike you, I hate looking foolish. ;)

But this has nothing to do with my build thread so it can pretty much end here and I'd like to get back on top. At the end of the day, you can keep stating comments about Raif car that you think are facts. I'll repost things that Raif himself sent/told me in relation to this topic. I think I'll go on the word of the owner over someone else.

[K_Mans_TSI]

I don't know anything about them but I had heard the GTK turbos were eating themselves in competition racing.

4508 seems to be the way to make big power these days if you're not worried about classes. Guys are making 850whp at sub 30psi on 2.0s with them.

[TSimage]

I don't know anything about them but I had heard the GTK turbos were eating themselves in competition racing.

4508 seems to be the way to make big power these days if you're not worried about classes. Guys are making 850whp at sub 30psi on 2.0s with them.

I've been hearing a lot about the 45s but yeah I'd rather be able to stick to the street class. In all reality what I really want to run is a BW400s but that will come later if the GTK doesn't do what it needs to do.

I will be more than satisfied with it however. Can't be worse than a 35r. So it'll be a nice upgrade for me. More than anything I'm excited about the auto.

[TSimage]

I got home and was informed that I had some "Big a$$ wheels at the door.." So I got up and trotted across the house went outside, looked to my right and:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081717b.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081719.jpg

:evillaugh" These will do me good until I go with a full slick.

But for now, this is as good as you can do and stay in the street class so the QTPs it shall be.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081719a.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081727.jpg

Its a small step but its the little things that add up and keep you interested in the project.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081727.jpg

Best part of all, they weigh 28lbs. :D

They were also a lot bigger than I thought they'd be. 26" tires are no joke.. In comparison my 19s on my RX8 have 255X35s (might be 45s) and these are as tall if not taller. (they barely fit in the wheel well.)

[TSimage]

Oh yeah, and before I forget.. Some asked me to post up a comparison between the regular Mag and the race:

The race dwarfs the street version in a way that it almost made me laugh that I ever ran it. I had similar pictures next to my friends JMF and its equally as funny.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081714.jpg

Another size ref.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081717.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081717a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081715.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081716.jpg

Next season should be fun..

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0925081728.jpg

[evil~eagle]

Glad you like the rims and slicks man! I told you they were light;) Thats why I ran them. get some pics up when you put them on!

[Ripper_XX]

speachless.......*wishes he had more money*

[tstkl]

Anyway you want to slice it, that's 42r territory and in different conditions with a better/fresher motor and a more extreme tune, its faster.

Garretts not the king anymore. Pretty much the GT-K and Berg Warner turbos are where its at.


I read that as you saying the gtk1000 is better than the gt42r.

[TSimage]

I read that as you saying the gtk1000 is better than the gt42r.

I'm playing off the title that they have been giving the turbo in magazines and what the name of the turbo means/stands for

GT-K 1000 =

GT Killer 1000hp

I think its funny that its such a big deal.. Fk killing a 42r, kill a BW400s, its bigger and spools faster... Its just to poke fun at it. Some people get sensitive. In all reality very few people know anything about the turbo at all. Its all fine and dandy, I don't claim to be an expert on it either, hence why I'm running. I could afford any turbo setup I wanted. I just wanna try something new. Plus, it looks badass. :evillaugh:

Regardless of the end results, 42r Killer or not, its gunna be an automatic beast. :tat: If it gets me into the 9s, its done its job. And if the juice gets me into the 8s or at least deep into the 9s, its done its job.

[MufflerBearing]

So far, everyone switching to GTKs from Garretts just like everyone switching from Garretts to Borg and Warners are seeing gains. In power and even more so in spool. These non ball bearing turbos all spool faster than Garretts newest DBB products.

Hell look what the HTAs its embarrassing/disappointing (coming from being a previous 35r owner *among many other G turbos*) how much improvement it made over the existing Garrett line of turbos, they're sleeping. I was pretty much a Garrett exclusive owner, but there are better option out there now. Its time for some people to man up and try them out. Hell if the GT-K1000 doesn't do what I want, there's always BW.:D :cool:

On a side note I got some more parts today *pics later tonight* and took those comparison photos between the street Magnus and race version like I have been asked. *pics also later tonight*I like the BW turbos. If the GT42 ever goes out on me, ive been looking at the BW S471.

[PurpleHazeTSi]

Yes I am telling you to get your facts straight because not only did he tell me about it but I just texted him the hilarity from your post.

Maybe you should go talk to the kid yourself and not assume.

1) 940/933 same thing.. lets not nit pick because you haven't a foot to stand on to begin with. (His words not mine)

2) He said it was at 60psi, 3 times.. I doubt it was a typo

3) 10:1 is probably news to you because, well, you really don't know what you are talking about

4) Its a 42r period that cost more than a 45r. He specifically said it it is a 45/42r hybrid, and it is a custom built turbo.. Any way you chop it. I can re build a 4088r to the point its a 4094 but do you still call ti a 4088?

See the difference is, you are spouting off out of what you supposedly heard from some guy named Bob.. I simply reposted EXACTLY in most cases WORD FOR WORD what RAIF HIMSELF told me numerous times and I double checked on it TODAY because unlike you, I hate looking foolish. ;)

But this has nothing to do with my build thread so it can pretty much end here and I'd like to get back on top. At the end of the day, you can keep stating comments about Raif car that you think are facts. I'll repost things that Raif himself sent/told me in relation to this topic. I think I'll go on the word of the owner over someone else.


hey man, im just going by what i see on a daily basis, and from what raif tell's me himself!

[TSimage]

I like the BW turbos. If the GT42 ever goes out on me, ive been looking at the BW S471.

Oh wow, you're lookin to go 45r size. Nice. I'm thinkin' a solid 400 would be good for me to reach my goals if push comes ot shove. I just wanna have fun with the GTK and beat the hell out of it. If it does well then good, if it doesn't then I wont be too disappointed.

hey man, im just going by what i see on a daily basis, and from what raif tell's me himself!

I understand that. But in retrospect, after your post I physically picked up the phone, got a hold of Raif and word for word typed down what he said. So as I was chatting back and forth with Raif I was simultaneously typing that post. If you are saying he is lying, then I can't argue with that, feel free to drive/walk the 10minutes down the street and ask him. My point was never to argue about it, but it is what it is.

The fact of the matter is the turbo he runs now has as much in common with a regular off the shelf 42r as stock '57 BelAir compared to a '57 Built by Chip Foose. His motor now compared to his last one is like comparing a Buschur stage 3+ to a SBR stage 1.. literally. At the end of the day. 9.6s@145/146mph on a 3-5yr old beat 8:1 motor at 40psi with a conservative tune is great proof the turbo holds its own. How much more ridiculous would the car have been on his new 10:1 high comp motor with higher boost with a more aggressive tune?

I mean we really have nothing to argue about.. The fact of the matter is, neither of us know much about this turbo, and I'm willing to bet you know even less about it than I do, and even I can't put my finger on its capabilities. ALL of the people I have seen personally or read on have gained power over the Garretts they once had. I hope to be another one.

Like I said before, if it performs, then great, the community will now have more info on a completely unknown turbo to us, if it fails, then hell let it die.:chair: lol

[MufflerBearing]

Oh wow, you're lookin to go 45r size. Nice. I'm thinkin' a solid 400 would be good for me to reach my goals if push comes ot shove. I just wanna have fun with the GTK and beat the hell out of it. If it does well then good, if it doesn't then I wont be too disappointed.

Um, an S471 is a GT42 based frame as far as i know.

http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?productid=16384&cat=334&page=1

83mm turbine compared to my 82mm (4294) or the 84mm (4202). Kinda a mixture of the 2 IMO, just better response.

[TSimage]

Um, an S471 is a GT42 based frame as far as i know.

http://www.agpturbo.com/product.php?productid=16384&cat=334&page=1

83mm turbine compared to my 82mm (4294) or the 84mm (4202). Kinda a mixture of the 2 IMO, just better response.

I thought the 372 and 374 are the 42 equivalents?

And those that have ran the 400 say its even bigger...

I'm not too familiar with the BW number scheme.

I definitely see the similarities you speak of.

[TSimage]

What are the biggest differences between the s372/7s and the s471/475s??

[MufflerBearing]

I honestly havent got the slightest idea. Im not very familiar with them. Just kinda searched around and found that the 471 would be the replacement for me if i ever went with something else. Smaller isnt really an option for me, ill just adapt if nessecary to the turbo size i have now. But if i had to guess by what the S200 series flow (S25X's are in the high 50s range in lbs/min). Id say the S370's are around 35r/37r range.

I do feel that the S471 will outflow my turbo which is rated at 85lbs/min (give or take what ive seen on the turbobygarrett site). The 4202 shows closer to 95 lbs/min, which is what the S471 is rated at on the agp site. Both of the garrett core ratings were with a 1.15 A/R, not sure how much the larger A/R's effect this.

I dont see myself ever going larger then an 82-84mm turbine either. Unless the 35r of today translates into the 42r of tomorrow. Which means, when a GT42 framed turbo is more common to see on the street as a 35r/sc61 is today. But i honestly dont see that happening, but who knows. Back in the day, a 20g was thought to be unstreetable lol.

[TSimage]

I honestly havent got the slightest idea. Im not very familiar with them. Just kinda searched around and found that the 471 would be the replacement for me if i ever went with something else. Smaller isnt really an option for me, ill just adapt if nessecary to the turbo size i have now. But if i had to guess by what the S200 series flow (S25X's are in the high 50s range in lbs/min). Id say the S370's are around 35r/37r range.

I do feel that the S471 will outflow my turbo which is rated at 85lbs/min (give or take what ive seen on the turbobygarrett site). The 4202 shows closer to 95 lbs/min, which is what the S471 is rated at on the agp site. Both of the garrett core ratings were with a 1.15 A/R, not sure how much the larger A/R's effect this.

I dont see myself ever going larger then an 82-84mm turbine either. Unless the 35r of today translates into the 42r of tomorrow. Which means, when a GT42 framed turbo is more common to see on the street as a 35r/sc61 is today. But i honestly dont see that happening, but who knows. Back in the day, a 20g was thought to be unstreetable lol.

The S372 and S374 are marketed specifically as a 4202 replacement. Its the same size and everything. I'll borrow a pic from Edwin to show a pic of the S374:

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/unlmtdndeavor2/DSC00723.jpg

http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y89/unlmtdndeavor2/DSC00722.jpg

They are the EXACT same size lol... Last I heard the 400s were bigger, but who knows.

[unlmtdndeavor]

Quick reference, the BW S374 that's going into my car is equivalent to a GT4202. It shares the same compressor cover. It's a 102lb/min turbo. It has a 74mm compressor wheel

[unlmtdndeavor]

Damn, one step ahead of me josh

[TSimage]

Damn, one step ahead of me josh

lol... Yeah these turbos are so unknown we can't even figure them out for ourselves hahaha...

Next season is gunna be bad a$$. 2 cars that No one out here should sleep on. :evillaugh:

[MufflerBearing]

Damn, that picture helps alot. What is the turbo in the middle? A 372 or 374? Ill just go with whichever one that is more then likely. Thats a great comparison. And i love how much smaller the 40r is compared to the 42 lol. It looks like a little baby 16g sitting beside a couple 61mm's lmao.

I was mostly goin by flow rates, AGP rates the S471 posted above as a 95lbs/min turbo, thats why i assumed it was a GT4202/GT4294 replacement, or somewhere in between.

[TSimage]

Damn, that picture helps alot. What is the turbo in the middle? A 372 or 374? Ill just go with whichever one that is more then likely. Thats a great comparison. And i love how much smaller the 40r is compared to the 42 lol. It looks like a little baby 16g sitting beside a couple 61mm's lmao.

I was mostly goin by flow rates, AGP rates the S471 posted above as a 95lbs/min turbo, thats why i assumed it was a GT4202/GT4294 replacement, or somewhere in between.


I think that info might be off...

I'll try and find a site with all the BW turbos listed. From what I have seen the 300s are like the 42r and the 400s are like the 45r.

Erik aka Xtremedrag ran a 400 and is was much bigger than his 42r and at the same time it was more efficient. Bigger-Faster-More efficient and best of all, half the price (that doesn't even take into account rebuilding the turbo *42r can't be rebuilt like a BW*)

And lol about the 40r, I remember when I had mine. I thought it was pretty big, but after being around 42s and other big turbos I became more and more unimpressed by its abilities.

[MufflerBearing]

I think that info might be off...

I'll try and find a site with all the BW turbos listed. From what I have seen the 300s are like the 42r and the 400s are like the 45r.

Erik aka Xtremedrag ran a 400 and is was much bigger than his 42r and at the same time it was more efficient. Bigger-Faster-More efficient and best of all, half the price (that doesn't even take into account rebuilding the turbo *42r can't be rebuilt like a BW*)

And lol about the 40r, I remember when I had mine. I thought it was pretty big, but after being around 42s and other big turbos I became more and more unimpressed by its abilities.I may have to look into the 372's. If the 400s out perform the 42s in spool and efficiency, the 300 series must be some pretty heavy hitters. Id like to see that site with all the series and thier ratings.

BTW, not sure if u know but i was wondering. What type of BW does Kiggly run on his FWD? That thing was GIGANTIC. And this is coming from someone with an 82mm turbo on a bottom mounted FWD DSM. And i mean it was gigantic. No way possible that turbo would fit down low unless a honda radiator is modified to fit.

[TSimage]

Here's Eriks car with the 42r:

http://i84.photobucket.com/albums/k18/rally_blue/Cars/dsc_0063.jpg
Here's the car with the BW S400:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3120/2352438801_9b2a78070a_b.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2255/2352431719_0bb0caab03_b.jpg

MASSIVE!

[MufflerBearing]

Yea, i saw his car at the shootout this year. It was sitting up front. Right by the entrance to the shop along the road. I thought it looked real good. Wasnt sure whose it was tho since there arent many BW top mount setups.

[unlmtdndeavor]

The BW in the Full Function picture is my BW S374 with the 1.0 A/R. We'll see how well that guy does. I may go to the 1.1, but they even make a HUGE 1.25A/R

[TSimage]

It was late at night but here's a sneak preview of whats to come.. Ill get better pics and more stuff installed tomorrow.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0927081950.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0927081949.jpg

[MufflerBearing]

Why have u flipped the turbo itself around so the compressor housing is on the right side rather then the left?

[TSimage]

Why have u flipped the turbo itself around so the compressor housing is on the right side rather then the left?

Its easier to run a 4" exhaust if it runs the drivers side, much more space.

[MufflerBearing]

Its easier to run a 4" exhaust if it runs the drivers side, much more space.Yea, thats true. A lot more room on the left side of the car.

[TSimage]

Opps that was a typo.. Its easier if the exhaust runs out the passenger side. Similar to Raifs car as well as Eriks car seen above. Raifs is a full 4" side exit while Eriks is a full body 4" exhaust.

[twack]

Can you tell us more about the auto tranny you are using and who built it and what it has done to it

[TSimage]

Can you tell us more about the auto tranny you are using and who built it and what it has done to it

It's the Manual valve body W4A33 that Erik never really got a chance to run in his built 1g. Its currently the first and only MVB Trans Break(able) DSM auto in existence. Its a forward 3 gear set with a ratcheting shifter. It does have reverse and 4th/OD can be replaced, but at this level of competition it would only heel in the fact that an accidental shift into OD if ever while racing could be catastrophic. In reality you could shift it into reverse at any time too, there is no computer controlling anything about this transmission. Basically its a manual transmission that can shift as fast as an auto and built 20-30psi off the line.

Its definitely going to be an interesting season running this ATF transmission but at the same time I hope to sacrifice a little MPH for more consistent ETs. I'm newer to the auto scene as well but hopefully the technology and capabilities of this transmission can open some doors for many of the auto guys out there who have been banging away at it for years trying to compete with the mannys.

[scapaldo]

Basically its a manual transmission that can shift as fast as an auto and built 20-30psi off the line.

Except that it sucks up about 15% more power :D




Its definitely going to be an interesting season running this ATF transmission but at the same time I hope to sacrifice a little MPH for more consistent ETs. I'm newer to the auto scene as well but hopefully the technology and capabilities of this transmission can open some doors for many of the auto guys out there who have been banging away at it for years trying to compete with the mannys.

What is going on inside the trans other then the front clutch and valve body? There isn't going to be a huge benefit to the manual valve body and the trans brake would nearly be unusable at high power levels. Kiggly and Francois have put their trans's though the paces on a competitive level for years, so there might not be much going on in your trans that would go beyond that. :)

[TSimage]

Except that it sucks up about 15% more power :D

Losing 10-15% isn't that bad when the goal is to essentially make 30%+ more power than the majority of those in your class. ;)



What is going on inside the trans other then the front clutch and valve body? There isn't going to be a huge benefit to the manual valve body and the trans brake would nearly be unusable at high power levels. Kiggly and Francois have put their trans's though the paces on a competitive level for years, so there might not be much going on in your trans that would go beyond that. :)

The fact of the matter is is there are always improvements to make on even designs people consider at their peak.

The transbrake not working at higher power levels is an odd comment unless you are uninformed as to what a trans brake even is. The fastest cars in the world are ALL auto and pretty much ALL use trans brakes. The higher the power level the more you'll need one. So in retrospect your assumption on the duties of a TB are misconstrued. The more power you are trying to put down off the line, the more you are going to push the limits of your braking system. There's a point where your brakes wont be able to hold your car, period. ESPECIALLY if you are using a smaller rim hence a smaller brake setup.

I wont be using the TB because I don't think I'll need it to be competitive in my class (and its not legal in street class) but when I do move up I plan to take advantage of it and see the gains.

Bottom line, there are gains, and losses. You've got to weigh them and see if the end result is worth the risk. I'm not trying to push any sort of revolution, but I am all about the advancement of the community through trying new things and never being content with what the next guy does. As long as you rely on the top guys to spoon feed you everything, they'll always be the top guys, when you finally step out the box and try new things that's when you can take a run for the top.

[scapaldo]

I was just noting that the trans brake will shock the driveline at high power levels, enough that you likely won't be able to use it without a driveline failure. Those fast cars have solid rear axles and are designed to take the abuse, our t-cases and rear setups are not.

I think a good braking setup, possible a vacuum pump would load the suspension nicely and be alot easier on the driveline.

Do you happen to know whats inside the trans?

And the fastest cars in the world are clutchless manuals ;).

[TSimage]

I was just noting that the trans brake will shock the driveline at high power levels, enough that you likely won't be able to use it without a driveline failure. Those fast cars have solid rear axles and are designed to take the abuse, our t-cases and rear setups are not.

I think a good braking setup, possible a vacuum pump would load the suspension nicely and be alot easier on the driveline.

Do you happen to know whats inside the trans?

And the fastest cars in the world are clutchless manuals ;).

If I was going any farther in the power range I'd need a solid rear end regardless. And technically speaking this transmission is pretty close to a clutch less manual. There's no TCU controlling anything.

Feel free to hit up ATF, VERY perfessional bunch of guys and they'll give you a run down on whats been done to the transmission to the tee.;)

[scapaldo]

Clutchless manuals don't have clutchpacks, thats the big difference because of efficiency.

[TSimage]

Clutchless manuals don't have clutchpacks, thats the big difference because of efficiency.

Oh I understand that, which is why I call it an Auto and not a clutchless manual lol...

[rpc91GSX]

Keep up the good work! I really really would like to see the Auto's getting deeper into the field!

Keep us updated. :D

[hawaiifiveoh]

Showin' some a/t love!!!! Can't wait to see how the tranny brake works out man, good luck.

[Ripper_XX]

I can't wait to see a video of his car making a pass. People are doing some really cool stuff here lately but this is deffently up there.



Do you expect to make a pass before the season ends?

[MufflerBearing]

Opps that was a typo.. Its easier if the exhaust runs out the passenger side. Similar to Raifs car as well as Eriks car seen above. Raifs is a full 4" side exit while Eriks is a full body 4" exhaust.Yea, my exhaust is 4" and comes out the side of the bumper. Its packed in like crazy with all the room in the world on the left side.

[chrish1440]

Oh I understand that, which is why I call it an Auto and not a clutchless manual lol...

Do you think your drivetrain can take a transbrake launch at your weight? I keep hearing that its not to good of an idea with anything over 2800 pounds.

[TSimage]

Keep up the good work! I really really would like to see the Auto's getting deeper into the field!

Keep us updated. :D

I'm with ya on that one, its a slooooow process but I'm workin on it. :cool:

Showin' some a/t love!!!! Can't wait to see how the tranny brake works out man, good luck.

Thanks bro, the TB will come later, I want to at least have a fully built drive train be for I attempt it.

[TSimage]

I can't wait to see a video of his car making a pass. People are doing some really cool stuff here lately but this is deffently up there.



Do you expect to make a pass before the season ends?

Thanks a lot. I guess that is the goal. My buddy Edwin is doing a big build too so I'll definitely have some competition in the class (off spray) so next season will be cool.

As far as having the car done by the end of the season, I doubt it. It being done by the end of the year however is a possibility.;)

Do you think your drivetrain can take a transbrake launch at your weight? I keep hearing that its not to good of an idea with anything over 2800 pounds.

Car shouldn't be over 2800lbs but as my drive train sits now I highly doubt it would survive, but once I beef it up you'll never know. Everyone assumes it wont survive but no one has ever done it so who knows. Its gunna be a minute before I'm trust worthy enough of the setup to try the TB, but when I do, I'll have a trailer waiting on the side. :rolleyes:

[TSimage]

UPDATE!!!

Got it mocked up roughly to see what its gunna look like:

These pics are of the engine minus the radiator...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081727b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081727.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081736-1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081735a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081638c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081639a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081639b.jpg

[TSimage]

Here are some pics with the Radiator installed:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081700a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081650.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081655.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081653.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081655a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081704a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081704.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081709a.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081709b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081704c.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081703b.jpg


Over head:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081710.jpg


Back:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081703.jpg

[blue_gsx]

^Get that bitch in the car already!

That magnus SMIM is freakin huge!

[TSimage]

Couple pics I REALLY liked for no apparent reason:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081712.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081729.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/0929081730a.jpg

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[TSimage]

:evillaugh:

[i need a dsm]

:thinking: I think you have your turbo on backwards LOL

[hawaiifiveoh]

Those pics make me feel all fuzzy inside...

[Ripper_XX]

Dude.....sex.....hot stinky dirty sex.... get that thing in the car and fired up!

[hawaiifiveoh]

Stinky??? I'm gonna have to ask, but...which hole is it in?

[DSMLIFESTYLE]

Good Lord! thats all I can say

[TSimage]

:thinking: I think you have your turbo on backwards LOL

I can't wait to hear some ricer/emotard ask me that or make a similar statement at the track...

First I'll be like: :squint:

Then I'll: :rolleyes:

And after that: :really:

So I'll: :rofl:

Followed by: :scholar:

Rightfully so I shall: :chair::bazooka:

And if they: :wompwomp:

I'll make sure to: :violin:

But if all else fails: :takethat:

[TSimage]

Dude.....sex.....hot stinky dirty sex.... get that thing in the car and fired up!

Oh no, not the stinky kind.. If you woulda told me it was naughty too it woulda been game over.

[16G_tsi_awd]

Looks great man! Can't wait to see it jammed inside Falco. O god that sounded wrong. :D

[Ripper_XX]

no it was right, Jam it into her engine bay baby!

[TSimage]

Where do I start... Well to answer the PMs, this build isn't "dead" its very much alive and I have a boat load of parts on the way. The reason for putting the shell back up FS was to possible pick up a shell from a friend but if all else fails I'll have no qualms finishing this build off as it started.

Stay tuned, the winters are always slow. If I end up with the black shell then the "Raven" build will continue right where Falco left off.

[TSimage]

Accidental post,

But as far as another update goes it looks like I'll be switching over to the Raven build soon pending the sell of the Falco shell.

I have a few pics I wanted to post but the forums limit the time frame for editing post to like 10 minutes and this was already done accidental haha. back with more later.

[sherloc123]

Pretty much taken from my GTK thread:


I've had the set up for probably 7 months or so (yes I have been sitting on a single digit setup for ever. I could been the first, but I'm in no rush to rush perfection :P ) I got a lot of it from my buddy Raif who took this setup, threw it on his car and ran a 9.6 with zero traction and a half ass tune. And a later high of 150mph :eek:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v637/j1d1h1/gtk2.jpg

9.6s run:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2IpfDL3blI

The turbo was sent back and replaced with a brand new one at which point I picked the setup off of him only days after trading my 35r for a 40r. (see timeline above)
Raif built the motor for my gst. Hes a great guy and his car is fast.

[TSimage]

Raif built the motor for my gst. Hes a great guy and his car is fast.

He's definitely a good guy. Hell if ya want, that turbo kit is up FS. Go ahead and get it and Raif can have you running mid 9s like he was on boost..:P

[sherloc123]

He already tried to pawn his race car off on me so he could build his evo