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DSMonster
10-20-2008, 11:36 PM
To get everyone up to speed i took the car to the track two summers ago. Timing went a bit high and I had some detonation problems. The car never was the same, put it away for that winter with low compression hovering around 100 to 115. Took it out of storage this spring and I drove it for two days when the water pump went. So this June I put it away for the season with new plans in mind...
The plan:
-Built 2.0L 6 bolt.
-New block.
-Same built head.
-Respray engine bay.
Picked up this virgin block and crank from a local WiDSM'r over the summer.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newmotor1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newmotor2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newmotor3.jpg
Some of the parts...
ACL tri-metal bearing
Crower Rods
Ross 8.3:1 pistions .020 over
gaskets
hardware
seals
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts.jpg
Some shot I took before I put her away this summer.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/readyforwinter.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/readyforwinter1.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/readyforwinter2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/readyforwinter3.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/readyforwinter5.jpg
more to come...
DSMonster
02-09-2009, 09:47 AM
After awaiting money for the last batch of parts I was finally able to pay for them. I have all the major pieces(might be a couple bolts or seals I need to get later).
Here is my updated parts list.
Felpro Multi-layer gasket & ARP "L19" head studs
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts1.jpg
Crower I-Beam rods
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts2.jpg
OEM main studs
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts3.jpg
Ross Racing Forged Aluminum Pistons 8.3:1 CR
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts4.jpg
HKS Fine Tune Timing Belt
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts5.jpg
-OEM front case with straight cut oil pump gears
-OEM water pump
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts6.jpg
-Clear cam gear cover
-OEM gaskets and seals
-OEM BS eliminator kit
-3rd gen revised lifters
-OEM timing components
-new turbo feed
-new wideband 02 sensor
-NKG 2 step colder plugs
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts7.jpg
New Saturn 105amp alternator(Saturn alt swap FTW)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts8.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/parts9.jpg
In the next couple week I will be taking the block and parts to C&S to have them do the machining and assemble the bottom end.
I know it seems as though I forgot the bearings, but I did not. I am waiting for the machine shop to measure my crank first so I know what size bearings I will need.
The bearings will be ACL Tri-metal race bearings.
-Jake
hawaiifiveoh
02-09-2009, 09:51 AM
This is gonna be pretty slick man, good luck with the build, can't wait to see what she does!
1slow93turbo
02-09-2009, 09:52 AM
Looks like a very nice build. Nice work!
-Jason
DSMonster
03-09-2009, 11:51 PM
Picked up this old school JMF on DSMLink forums for a great price. only 600miles on it.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/smim.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/smim2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/smim3.jpg
STikillinTsi
03-10-2009, 01:51 AM
Nice looking talon. DOes that Saturn alt. put out more amps than the Galant VR-4 alt? Is that saturn alt. swap just a sinmple bolt up replacement? Or is there some fab/modding work needed?
DSMonster
03-10-2009, 10:30 AM
Nice looking talon. DOes that Saturn alt. put out more amps than the Galant VR-4 alt? Is that saturn alt. swap just a sinmple bolt up replacement? Or is there some fab/modding work needed?
I'm not sure if my particular alternator puts out more than a VR4 alternator. But IIRC the stock DSM alternator puts out 65 amps. I Know that you can also get 200amp Saturn alternators, and I am pretty positive that 200amps is way more than any factory alternator.
The Saturn alternator has a much better regulator and solves most if not all of the voltage problems in a DSM. Especially if you are running big cams and have problems with consistent voltage at idle.
There is some fab work required but not much, anyone with a grinder can do it. You need to grind down the mounting point on the block/front case till it is all even with the smallest diameter of the front case, then some grinding on the alternator is required. Of corse there is a bit of re-wiring to do but that's a given. Also I know if you go bigger than 95amps you need to upgrade the wiring from the battery to the alternator and ground with a lower gauge wire.
Ill get some pics of it next weekend, to show as an example. I'm at school right now till Friday.
DSMonster
05-02-2009, 07:54 PM
Looks like its about time for an update.
So, first order of business I decided to not go with a purple valve cover. I decided on wrinkle black and the valve cover is at the powder coater right now.
Second, I received a call from C&S yesterday(thursday) notifying me that the block was done. Got back from school today and went to pick it up.
but first i needed to tear down the old engine and get it off the stand.
debris any one?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/oldblock.jpg
I wonder if i need that oil squirter nozzle?
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/oldblock2.jpg
now for the good stuff..
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock.jpg
OEM main studs
ACL Tri-Metal Race Bearings
Crower Rods
Mahle Pistons
Hot-tanked block
Bored and Honed
Decked
Line Honed
Freeze Plugs Installed
BS shaft bearings 180 out
Crank Polished
Pin Fitted
Rotating Assembly Balanced
Short Block assembled also by C&S
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock2.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock3.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock4.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock5.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock6.jpg
After a little high heat (1200 degree) paint.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock7.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock7.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock7.jpg
Front case/ oil pump installed along with ARP L19s
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newblock9.jpg
L19s
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/arpL19s.jpg
DSMonster
05-02-2009, 07:55 PM
Felpro MLS & L19's FTW
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newengine.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newengine2.jpg
built head off of old block installed.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newengine3.jpg
3g lifters installed.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newengine4.jpg
most of timing assembly installed/ water pump installed.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newengine5.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/newengine6.jpg
that's all for now until i get a couple more misc seals and bolts.
-Jake
SexyDSM95
05-16-2009, 09:23 PM
Thanks for all the pics, I am about to go through this myself. The more pictures the better! Subscribed!
Can't wait to see the final results!
DSMonster
08-16-2009, 05:40 PM
Finally, the time has come to start it. just waiting for the valve cover and CAS to come back from the powdercoater.
Here are some pics from the last couple weeks.
Engine bay freshly painted.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3750.jpg
Engine assembly...
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3748.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3749.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3751.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3752.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3753.jpg
Engine in.( it was a hot muggy day, condensation on the lenses.)
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3754.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3755.jpg
as it sits now waiting for a valve cover.
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3756.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3757.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3758.jpg
http://i18.photobucket.com/albums/b114/Jake2988/build0809/IMG_3759.jpg
Start up video coming soon!
123abc
08-16-2009, 06:35 PM
Very clean car man. Good job thus far.
Blurred Talon
08-16-2009, 06:54 PM
Looks very nice.
What are your power goals?
DSMonster
08-16-2009, 08:22 PM
i'm looking for around 450hp for a 93 octane daily.
hand1222000
08-16-2009, 10:18 PM
Very nice Build!
fanaticdsm-er
08-20-2009, 01:10 AM
Start up Start up!
DKPR87
08-20-2009, 11:44 PM
93 daily!! oooohhh i sooo envy you man, all we got is this crappy oklahoma 91 octane... but maaaaan does that car look mean as hell! I'm with fanaticdsm-er START IT UP!!
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