500hp or more :)

[95patalon]

Well it happen the infamous reason most builds start around here spun rod bearing. So I pulled the motor dissembled and the crank was pretty scored up so I decided to put my tax return into building the bottom end and some other goodies

The Goodies:

Wiseco 9.0:1 .20 over
Eagle rods
Cut the crank
Arp headstuds
Arp main studs
Oem headgasket
Oem oil pump
B/S eliminator
And a custom made lil 20g turbo thanks to harry99gsx :cool:
Block honed and Bored etc here are the pics now lol :D
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0078.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/wheresthemotor.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/motorout.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/engine.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/piston.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/setup.jpg

[Black_ bullet]

Looks good, Ill probably be using my tax return for the same pistons and rods.

Be careful with cut cranks though especially with your power goals...

[yangtech]

All the parts look so clean just laying there. It should be a fun build.

[hawaiifiveoh]

If I were you, I'd look for a different crank, no need to risk something that important. Doesn't have to be new, just one that doesn't need cut and can be micropolished, etc.

[95patalon]

I did some research and double check with the machine shop and the crank should run just like a oem crank.

[Bradikus7]

I did some research and double check with the machine shop and the crank should run just like a oem crank.

Sorry man, your info is incorrect. The factory cranks are flash hardened. Meaning they are only hardened to a certain point. Basically when you have them cut, the material left is smooth like new, but it is much softer and people have had them just fall apart. The machine shop probably isn't fluent in DSM-nese and has no clue about this. Most cranks can just be cut and reused. Unfortunately not ours.

Just a heads up, if you are looking for that kind of power, spend a ridiculous amount of dollars and go Eagle crank or look for a good used one. My .002.:D

[harry99GSX]

Just adding my 2 cents like everyone else. :D

His crank is being cut 10 under. Granted I'm not a fluent engine builder, but from my understanding our OEM cranks should be fine with this.

I honestly don't want to start any pissing matches with any of you guys here, but I myself know a handful of guys running OEM cranks on their re-builds with a 10 under cut and so far they have been great. Most of them are right around that 500 whp mark to boot.

In a PERFECT world a replacement such as an Eagle crank, would be ideal............ There is NO dispute about that.

I discussed with the OP about his options and from a financial stand point, This makes the most sense for him. Is it THEE best route, NO, but he understands that.

Hopefully the ending to this build/story is a good one.

ALL constructive critisisem is more the welcome. :)

[95patalon]

I found this laying around my work on a 1gen head so since I do body work and paint I applied a base coat clear cloat.:cool:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/newintakemanifold.jpg

Then I figure to just sand some paint of lol.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/chromeintakemanifold.jpg

Will post pics of the head intake side ported when i am done.:tat::tat:

[95patalon]

So I was having problem with this bad vibration ( sorta like a really bad wheel hop ) and could not figure out wat it was. But extremepsi was nice enough to send it to fidanza and get me a replacement flywheel and a good deal on a 4.3 so i ditch the 3.2 . ( Yes I did the break in period).

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/assembly.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/clutch.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/flywheel.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/pressueplate.jpg

[HOT97ECLIPSEGSX]

Coming up in the world! Nice shiney parts...I'm jealous. I want to go out and build myself an engine now :(:)

[95patalon]

Spend your tax return money thats what I did lol:D

[HOT97ECLIPSEGSX]

My tax return is going to my Jack's premium build tranny. Along with my already purchased Competion Clutch 6 puck and some maintenance stuff (fluids, rear and transfer case gaskets, fluids, etc.).

[95patalon]

I wish I had a built trans.:(

[HOT97ECLIPSEGSX]

Your stock trans stood up to a 4 puck?

[95patalon]

The new 4.3 is a six puck Kevlar.

[95patalon]

started assembly today and ported the head to fit the intake manifold

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/head.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/newblock.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/block.jpg

[4g64fiero]

Is your entire car flat black?

[95patalon]

Is your entire car flat black?

I got the hood from the dealership and bumper off of ebay . And sad to say I am a painter and still didnt paint my car.:(

[4g64fiero]

I got the hood from the dealership and bumper off of ebay . And sad to say I am a painter and still didnt paint my car.:(

Haha it happens. I've rocked multi colored dsms since I was 18. Always had some part to buy. Now i am 23 and tired of it haha. Mines not coming out of the garage until its one uniform color.

[95patalon]

Almost done just waiting on my thermostat and throttle body harry99gsx:D

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/motorass.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/motorside.jpg

[4g64fiero]

Nice, not a bad way to spend ten grand.

What engine management are you using? Just the safc?

[harry99GSX]

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/block.jpg

Hey.............. Those headstuds aren't threaded into the block all the way.

Looking at this picture, shows their at different heights.............. Not good.

I'm guessing by now you all ready noticed this since the head is torqued down in your last post........................... Right ???

[95patalon]

Hey.............. Those headstuds aren't threaded into the block all the way.

Looking at this picture, shows their at different heights.............. Not good.

I'm guessing by now you all ready noticed this since the head is torqued down in your last post........................... Right ???

Yea yea yea asshole..... :)

[tarantula]

I am not positive and correct me if I'm wrong but from your long block pic, it looks as if you reused your timing belt. For 500hp and a new engine, I would get a brand new setup, which means all new timing pulleys, new tensioner, new water pump and a new belt.

Also what turbo are you planning on making your 500 with?

[95patalon]

I am not positive and correct me if I'm wrong but from your long block pic, it looks as if you reused your timing belt. For 500hp and a new engine, I would get a brand new setup, which means all new timing pulleys, new tensioner, new water pump and a new belt.

Also what turbo are you planning on making your 500 with?

I got a brand new timing belt water pump and tensioner. Well for now I bolted back up the evo 3 cause cash is a lil tight after the build. But I will be running soon a 20g with a t3 hotside.

[harry99GSX]

20g !!! NICE.............. A long time favorite of mine.

Is that the one we talked about? TD06H with the custom machined .70 T3 turbine housing? 360 heavy duty thrust bearing. That should make for one hell of a flowing 20g! And reliable too!

Get this thing a base tune and lets start playing with some E85 in that.

I'd like to see this thing boosting around the 27-28 lb. range.

This should make for a nice daily driver for sure.

I do hope you have a game plan for trying to get traction, because that's gonna be a big obstacle in itself................. trying to get the power to the ground.

[95patalon]

Finally had a chance to drop the motor in will post a video when I get a chance.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/car-1.jpg

[95patalon]

Finally came into some money so here it is...:)

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0259.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0260.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0261.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0262.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0264.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0263.jpg

[greenstreak]

Harry and I were just talking about this build yesterday when he was here.

Best of luck. I'll keep my fingers crossed on that crank.

[95patalon]

After driving 20g powered fwd at 25psi front wheel drive is pointless :) .. So the swap over starts AWD baby......

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0280.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0279.jpg

[95patalon]

Finally pick her up today.....
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0298.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0299.jpg

one hour later...... Never thought i would be pulling the motor back out so soon:D
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0300.jpg

[harry99GSX]

What the hell color is that car ?

Is that thing PURPLE ? :confused:












LOL................ ;)

[95patalon]

To secure my man hood i will say BLURPLE..

[MacGSX]

You ever get numbers on the motor before you pulled it?

Jordan

[95patalon]

You ever get numbers on the motor before you pulled it?

Jordan

Hp numbers no but my work has a awd dyno and i will be the first to test it out:D

[projecTSI]

That new shell looks pretty clean. (Figuratively speaking. Literally, it is dusty as hell.)

[Ripper_XX]

When did this custom 20g start to spool and when did it reach full boost if you don't mind sharing?

[95patalon]

When did this custom 20g start to spool and when did it reach full boost if you don't mind sharing?

Full boost 25 psi 3800.

[95patalon]

After swapping all my suspension and brakes ( yes shitty single pistons), headlights, interior , wheels and couple of sensor figure i will wash the car. Since i have to wait to monday for the trans anyways. Dont mind the hangin bumper :P

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0303.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0301.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0302.jpg

[95patalon]

Well havent posted in about a month .. Had to save up for a trans and other minor stuff so here is some update pics of wats been going on.:D

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0315.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0316.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0321.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0322.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0324.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0323.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0325.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0328.jpg

[harry99GSX]

Is that a purple tool box to match your purple car in the background?








J/K...................... Is this thing running yet?

[95patalon]

Well I guess this is where my build thread comes to an end.I have the full 3in echaust done no cat :D .The last two mods are 1000cc injectors and a meth kit.. :D.. So in about a week or two I will post some videos of me at the track running 35 psi wish me luck lol.:P

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0332.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0333.jpghttp://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0334.jpg

[Burnett03]

This setup is going to make 500hp? No way man.

[95patalon]

This setup is going to make 500hp? No way man.

And y not. Its been done with a 20g

[91TSiGuy]

I thought that blurple car looked familiar. :)

Glad to see it's finally being put together by someone finally. Just make sure that hood's bolted down, unlike the fwd was...... :P

[95patalon]

I thought that blurple car looked familiar. :)

Glad to see it's finally being put together by someone finally. Just make sure that hood's bolted down, unlike the fwd was...... :P

lol I kno :D

[lazylaser]

When I stated reading this thread, I thought you were going to try to swap AWD into your FWD...

Glad to see that you were not crazy, well not totally... I have to ask why did you swap single piston calipers onto the car?
Do you plan on running slicks, And needed to clear tiny rims?

And you'll love meth injection, if you haven't used it before, just you wait.

[b00stedtalon2]

Looks good man, keep up the good work. I also used to run a 20g, awesome turbo!

Good luck with reaching your power goal!

[95patalon]

When I stated reading this thread, I thought you were going to try to swap AWD into your FWD...

Glad to see that you were not crazy, well not totally... I have to ask why did you swap single piston calipers onto the car?
Do you plan on running slicks, And needed to clear tiny rims?

And you'll love meth injection, if you haven't used it before, just you wait.

I swap single pistons because it came with no brake setup. planning to stick with 17 with slicks

[harry99GSX]

It's gonna suck when it comes time to slow that thing down.

Better think about swapping over to at least the dual pistons with some good pads and rotors, and some stainless lines.

[95patalon]

Well she done . Took her out for a spin that tial bov is fricken louder than anything I have ever heard.. And you were right single pistion calipers on a heavier car this thing wont stop for its life so I placed an order for Baer brake kit :D.. Never done spending money.

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0340.jpg

[lazylaser]

Some weather we have been having here in PA...

Glad its on the road and working out for you. Nice nab on the new brakes. Keep us updated on how the Baers work out.

[123abc]

Yeah, our single pistons really suck. They can lock up the wheels, but they get fade after about the first hard braking.

[95patalon]

Yea def will post pics of baer kit when install it should def be an improvement:D

[95patalon]

Well havent been on here on a while my laptop caught a virus ( i guess to much porn lol) But alot has changed i got the baer brakes and take a look at my fidanza 4.3 they gave me a full refund ... so now I am going with a act 2900 with a six puck sprung..

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0350.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0355.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0357.jpg

[sherloc123]

That sucks but at least yo got your money back. Car is looking good

[Loner]

Those rotors look so nice.

[95patalon]

I picked up my new clutch today man these springs are alot bigger than the 4.3
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0360.jpg

[95patalon]

Took the car to fedex figured to weigh it so here it is.....
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0372.jpg
http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/Photo0373.jpg

[Loner]

Is it 3,000 with you in it or without?

[95patalon]

Is it 3,000 with you in it or without?

Without me in it

[95patalon]

SO today was a nice 70 degrees out so i was out practicing my launches .. so here are a couple videos ( sorry bout the quality.. its from cell phone..):mad:

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/?action=view&current=video3gpp2_2.flv

http://s252.photobucket.com/albums/hh5/95patalon/?action=view&current=video3gpp2_3.flv

[95patalon]

Well I started to have some issues with my clutch push the pedal down and the car rpm dropping or dying... So I took the trans off and sent the clutch to act to see if there was a problem... They said I have the big C word but I cant find any play in the crank.. I was thinking maybe its just there throw out bearing any input ....:confused: