EVO VIII or WRX STi?

[AWD Terror]

If money was no object which would you buy - the new Mitsubishi EVO VIII or the new Subaru WRX Sti? :cool:

[ikickuintheball]

EVO VIII even though I hate the altezza brake lights.. I could always change them. :) MMM EVO! :D

[Blackboost]

EVO VIII of course!!!:D

[16g-95GSX]

Now in this case I seriously have to give it to the STi as far as all around options etc, and ultimately the best out of the box, my concern however is the flat engine and the fun times I'd have working on it. That is why I chose the EVO, not because of its triumph over the STi (in my opinion it didnt) but rather that it's a more mod friendly car most likely and not such a pain in the ass to work on.

[Evil Talon]

Bow down to Mitsubishi! How could someone defect to Subaru really?;)

[V8SpankR]

I just don't think I'm ready to own a 4 door yet even if it's fast,I still love my DSM.

[Taboo]

Originally posted by V8SpankR
I just don't think I'm ready to own a 4 door yet even if it's fast,I still love my DSM.
Same here :D . If I want a grocery getter, I get the VR4.. :D

[V8SpankR]

I also like my OBD1 ecu,never throws a code (mine never has in the 7 years I've owned it) and you get 55 samples a second through a Pocketlogger from the ecu.

[neonduck]

well now that my eclipse is being a whore and smoking and dead (see help tech if desired), I have been thinking about a WRX, then saw the debut of the new lancer evo and saw it at the detroit auto show, but a real evo with right hand drive would REALLY get me going, cuz while I was in detroit, I drove a JDM honda del sol, and I felt more "at home" on the right side of the car, and much safer.

[red95gsx]

What great fun to be the first to admit to defecting to the Subaru camp, but after reading a review of the Evo VIII in this weeks Auto Week, I can't say that I came away all that impressed. And I really hate the front end on the Evo, it's like it has a riced out body kit already installed. I dunno, maybe it's just the lack of food and sleed clouding my judgement :D But for my money, the STi is the way to go. I do find it amusing how Subaru waited until like a week after the introduction of the Evo to out do it though. Of course, come to think of it, doesn't the STi use a larger engine than the Evo? THoughts are wandering off subject now...

Later,
Matt

[talon94es]

Well, I probably could fit one of these cars into my budget if I sold all of mine. But, that would entail sitting outside my apt with a shotgun all night long guarding it from thugs/punks/haters/etc so it is not an option. Hopefully I'll actually own a garage sometime and be able to store a car like this. On to the subject, with out driving either of the cars I would have to say STI all the way. It is so much more aesthetically appealing to me. Not to mention its more mature to the US market and has great options to boot. I like the look of the EVO and its an awesome f-ing car but I don't care for the rice look their are going with. I would much rather prefer the earlier EVO models to the riced out one they are giving us Americans.

[V8SpankR]

Originally posted by talon94es
I would much rather prefer the earlier EVO models to the riced out one they are giving us Americans.


Define rice?

The lights (I assume you call this rice) are just the industry standard now and Toyota was just a bit ahaed of everybody else. Look at the other new cars that are coming out like the Mazda RX8 with it's "altezza" type lights and I think the Ford Lightning comes with a variation also.

Let's get passed the lights and be happy Mitsu even brought another turbo car over. If the lights bother you that much you're a weenie. ;)

[elhalish]

Car reviews seemed to favour the STi a bit more over the EVO. If I could afford either of them I would get which ever one is available. The STi is pretty much sold out even though it didnt even come out yet (at least that is what I heard at the auto show). EVO is more mod friendly, but I think if I had either of those cars I wouldn't even bother moding either. They too damn sweet as they are!

Since this is "DSM" talk, EVO ALL THE WAY!!!! :D

[Mesverrum]

It would really depend for me what i had in mind with the car. If i was just going to mod it out a little and wanted to be fast easily then the evo because its got huge aftermarket support already coming from us. But, if i was going for an all out beast, im inclined to believe that the wrx has more potential in the long run. Probably more expensive to get the same power levels and such but from what i have read about the engine, its probably more capable if you were trying to do something really cravy, like 600 hp and such. Boxers are supposedly perfectly balanced or something so it can rev and make more power higher, and the extra displacement would make a monster turbo a little bit more friendly. Im not sure if these things would really offset the costs involved with building up the engine, or the fact that its not convenient to work on at all, but if money was REALLY no object and you were paying someone else to sweat and bleed on it while you just got to drive it around doing sub 8 second 1/4 miles all weekend, then the wrx might be a better option. And i have to admit, i think it looks better than the new EVO, but both of them dont look that great to me.

[TSITALONGUY03]

I personally think the EVO is ugly, i keep see'n different versions of how its "going" to look and the latest one with the ugly mitsu star in the front disgusts me. But the STi model i've seen is amazing. Although the EVO would be more easily modded, its just to damn ugly...

STi:D

-j

[shott17]

*F* the 4 door. in my opinion neither of them are even better looking then a first or second gen dsm so if money was no object i would stay dsm for looks, style and modability and go nuts.

[NineFourAspired]

This ain't no freekn' Subaru site stick with what works.

I ain't workin' on no stinkin mess of a Subaru motor, what a pain in the posterior.

Don't be a trader and a bandwagon jumper.

Aspired, I always stick to my brands.

[caffeind]

Well...i'm not jumping camp, i was a subie fan before i was a mitsu fan. The evo 8 is a great car of course, but you cant compete with the sti. Considering how many championships the STI has won over the evo in rally contest it's really a no brainer. The sti mantains a higher level of quality and class over the "cutting edge" evo 8 wich looks like it's geared towards rich teenagers so to speak (not that teens will have the money for either, but i hope you get what i'm trying to say, they are trying to sell it with style without the heirtage to back it up). The sti will have aftermarket support, if you dont believe me fine, but we will see.

P.S. next time you see a rally contest on t.v. notice what car the commericals that come on are for, and how the little intro videos have subies in them. Also someone name a rally game that has something other than a subaru on the cover

[Evil Talon]

Excuse me, you must not be old enough to remember, but Mitsubishi has had a number of manufacturer's titles in recent WRC history, the reason they did poorly last season was a completely new car and less than stellar drivers, we'll see what next season holds, but you're full of it if you think Mitsubishi lacks rallly heritage. Ever heard of Tommi Makinen? He drove for Mitsubishi and won championships in 96-99. Now lets talk about rally heritage!

[athansinis]

If i had the money, I'd buy a cheap and reliable second car, put about $5,000 aside, and put the rest into mods for the gsx. Right off the top of my head i can think of sheet metal intake mani, new exhaust manifold, FP Red turbo, nitrous or water injection, front mount intercooler, roll cage, racing seats and harnesses, and a built engine and head. And with whatever money is leftover, I'll buy Fat Tire beer.

[caffeind]

Tommi Makinen is badass (wish i could drive like him)...but Collin McCray(spelling?) was the once great driver for subaru. Dont get me wrong i'd take either one happily, i love mitsu and subaru...i never thought of it as a rivalry, i mean, at least not like mitsu and honda. Sorry for pissing anyone off, we're all on a DSM board, which usually means we have DSMs so lets not fight. I just love subies this _ much more than mitsubishi....be happy i dont drive an integra....

[TSITALONGUY03]

OOKK, was at the mitsu dealership getting some work done(:eek: ) and i asked one of the sales guys for some info on the EVO. GAT DAMN! I don't know if this is old news but, some of the specs are interesting. Hollow valves, hollow cam shafts, i forget what kind of valve cover, but super light weight, twin scroll turbo, 19psi at like 3,500(i think) single piece forged rims 8in wide, light weight pwrstr pump, mc struts(upsidedown!) and a rear brace. Also has a boatload of factory acc. Front and rear strut braces and a messload of other stuff that i forgot. I change my mind, MITSU all the way!

-j

[funkeymonkey202]

alright if IF i had enough money to but an evo or wrx why would i buy a new car when i can take all that money and fix up my car man it would scream for that money and imagine all the worthless stuff you can put in it like a stereo or if you want to go all out a ps2 you know whatever floats your boat but anyways definently sticking with my dsm i love working on that thing every weekend:) :)

[Evil Talon]

If you total the money up which you spend it gets up there REAL fast. My build up is over 20k right now. That's because I had my tranny go out and alot of other parts but my point is that if you include repairs you'll be very poor. A new car will never perform as well but for some there's no substitute for a warranty and that new car smell. I personally prefer my Talon with mods at this point, but if I had a family the Evo would be my choice.

[migamb]

First of all you guys need to get over the rice thing. That is getting so old everytime something comes out and a group of you try to impress each other by talking about everything being rice.

I would take the EVO without a second thought. First those of you saying the sti won whatever kind of event is in who cares unless you are planning on building a rally car. Thats like saying I am going to buy a Honda since the fastests FWD are Hondas again who cares with enough money you can make just about any car into a winner. People have been dreaming of the day that stupid Mitsu would finally bring over the EVO and now the time has come. As soon as a good tuner gets a hold of one you guys will see what this thing is capable of doing.

[centxdsm]

In the new motortrend (maybe the new automobile) they say the evo is sedans only for now! Give me a 2 dr and i'll tke the evo. Until then the evo will have to suck the fumes from my ball bearing turbo enhanced 2.5L!!!

[talon94es]

Thats cool. Thanks for the tunes. Go pimp that hill. Or, when you feel the urge for some real terrain come on over to Colorado and I'll show you the goodies we have. See below. http://common.vailnewmedia.com/Mtncams/wildwood.today.jpg

[talon94es]

Grrr, sorry wrong post. DSMtalk doesn't let me edit previous post? And, the STI still rules. I would be happy as hell with either one of these beast but if I were to buy one it would have to be the STI because of styling and looks. After Mitsu test the market for the EVO in America I'm sure it will get better (active/adjustable? differentials) and all those other goodies.

[saturdaynight]

Both are very nice IMHO but I'm sticking with the current brand I own. So I'll take an EVO VIII PLEASE!!! :D

[TE27Levin]

Well from what they say the new STI will have 300 hp and 300 lb/ft that would completly destroy the evo. Sorry evo. :)

[Drover]

If money is no object, gotta go with the STi. It just has a better hardware package. Back here in the real world, money is an object, and the question still remains: Better hardware, but at what price? Anything above 32K for the STi and the Evo starts looking like an attractive alternative.

Unfortunately, looks is a big issue for me on both cars. When I first saw the new STi with that 4-foot-tall hood nostril, I thought, "well that thing is ugly as hell. Maybe I'll look at an Evo instead." Then we saw pictures of the new Evo, which looks like a Lancer got raped by a Pontiac Sunfire and this ugly bastard was the result, and suddenly the Evo didn't seem like an obvious alternative. Then the 300/300 numbers were released on the STi and I decided I could deal with an ugly-ass hood scoop for those kind of numbers....

...but the question still remains: at what price?

[planckscale]

I love my 2G. Body style is just one off the best out there. Also, there is always the potential for more mods, like substituting parts from the new EVO.

2G Eclipse forever!

[jap drifter]

if money was not an issue....ahhhh i wish. but if it wasnt prob the subie.

seriously, i cant see myself buying either of those cars though. first, when they come out you will be paying a FEW thousand dollar premium. THAT SUCKS. new cars are just TOO much damn money. i look at it like "what kind of 1g could i have with 30K" (even more to be realistic, but 30 is a good number). a freshly painted, worked to hell, caged, fender flared, fire breathing car built to my specs. my compression ratios, my garrett specs, my suspension....everything the way i would like it. save money and go faster. for 30K + you are getting a new car and then have to dump mods on top of it. damn for 30K i would possibly step over to the dark side and throw a 6bolt in a 2g:eek:

[4SFED4]

$$$ is no object.. I just love my DSMs.
The EVOs are cool if you want one and the WRXs are simply for traders. Just remember there will always be a few nasty old school DSMs to hammer your new iron. Save a 1G from the scrapper and your money... 20 grand in a 1st Gen can get you a 10sec daily driver easily with money to spare(if you know what you're doing...if not seek professionals). If I ever find the need to be a Benedict I'll go back to V8 power.

[jgardner]

I can't believe so many people on here are hating on the STi. I would kill to have a Subaru WRX STi. I'm just too poor. The results are very surprising to me, most people I know would take the STi over the EVO. I guess that's the way it works when you're on a Mitsubishi based board?

[baldj]

hey would certinly like to have the evo it is nice ill tell you what though those wrx's are sweet my brother has one its not an sti but its damn nice. Those cars respond to mods so good just an intake and an up pipe and he was running mid 13's first time ever at the track. It pulls hard as hell and seams to have more power to the rear than the front not sure though. Ive never been i one of the new evo's though so i cant really make an accurate opinion id love to drive one and see. The main thing that i dont like about the wrx is the way you sit in it its not layed back at all the shifter is quite abit lower than you, if the evo is like that i wouldnt get either id keep my 98 gsx i just love the way you sit in it low the shifter is nice and level it just feels sporty and has tons of potential. I LOVE MY CAR

[DSTRBO]

no one should hate on the subaru, they are nice cars. the Evo and the WRX are both very upgradable. but the Evo is clearly just the shit. you can't "truely" be a dsm enthusiaast and say you don't want this 4G63 powerhouse in your garage!
you can't compare the performance...

emund's review says this:
"For pure performance, the Evolution was the clear winner. It was faster and more capable in every category. But our two editors weren't quite ready to fully dismiss the WRX. As a real-world street car, the WRX proved superior. Despite being slower and not as sharp, it was more fun to drive at the limit and easier to put into four-wheel drifts. Plus, its softer tuning and wider seats made it more comfortable in urban areas. It even had a much better fuel range; the Evo's low-fuel warning light frequently illuminated after just 170 miles because its gas tank holds just 12.7 gallons. The WRX holds 15.9 gallons.

basically this is from the Jspec cars, but it looks like the WRX is a more "fun" drive and Evo is the most pwerful of the two.

EVO IS MY CHOICE!!!

[talon94es]

emund's review says this:
"For pure performance, the Evolution was the clear winner. It was faster and more capable in every category. But our two editors weren't quite ready to fully dismiss the WRX. As a real-world street car, the WRX proved superior. Despite being slower and not as sharp, it was more fun to drive at the limit and easier to put into four-wheel drifts. Plus, its softer tuning and wider seats made it more comfortable in urban areas. It even had a much better fuel range; the Evo's low-fuel warning light frequently illuminated after just 170 miles because its gas tank holds just 12.7 gallons. The WRX holds 15.9 gallons.

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While I agree that I would've taken the EVO over the original WRX (which is what this review refers to) I think the STI version is a more formidable competitor then the original WRX.

[Drover]

Originally posted by DSTRBO
emund's review says this:
"For pure performance, the Evolution was the clear winner. It was faster and more capable in every category. But our two editors weren't quite ready to fully dismiss the WRX. As a real-world street car, the WRX proved superior. Despite being slower and not as sharp, it was more fun to drive at the limit and easier to put into four-wheel drifts. Plus, its softer tuning and wider seats made it more comfortable in urban areas. It even had a much better fuel range; the Evo's low-fuel warning light frequently illuminated after just 170 miles because its gas tank holds just 12.7 gallons. The WRX holds 15.9 gallons.
That article is a comparison of an Evo VII to a regular WRX, while this poll is an Evo VIII/STi comparison question, so to base your decision on a review where the deck was clearly stacked in favor of the Evo is manifestly unfair.

Until they both hit the streets, we're left to make comparisons on the paper track. Here's my take: it looks like the USDM STi is going to trounce the Evo VIII. With a 30HP/30lb-ft disadvantage, plus a 5-speed vs a 6-spped, is a lot of ground for the Evo to make up. I'm sure the Evo will make up a lot of that ground in handling, as it seems Mitsu has tuned its Evo for primarily for tarmac use while Subaru seems to want to stick more to its rallying heritage. Still, one has to wonder if better handling in tight turns will be sufficient to make up the difference on a road course, seeing how the STi not only has it handily beat in the straights but will have tons more low-end grunt to get up to speed out of the corners.

At this point, the only bit of information I'm waiting for to make up my mind is cost. Otherwise, it's STi hands-down for me.

[Kinetic]

well if money isn't the issue...ill take both :D

[V8SpankR]

Originally posted by Kinetic
well if money isn't the issue...ill take both :D


Good point. :D:D

[dsmperformance]

This poll isn't biased, now is it?

[reese]

ok so id get a lancer just to start off.

how much boost could u run on these fuckers? 19 psi stockm fmic stock...i mean damn seems like a boost controller would be all u would need for like 320 hp.....am i right?

[V8SpankR]

Originally posted by reese
ok so id get a lancer just to start off.

how much boost could u run on these fuckers? 19 psi stockm fmic stock...i mean damn seems like a boost controller would be all u would need for like 320 hp.....am i right?

The turbo might not support too much more boost plus the ECU might throw CELs and other things,remember it's still OBDII.
I think tuners will find some hurdles to overcome in the quest for ponies on the EVO.

[DSTRBO]

if the quest for ponies comes down to ecu difficulties, expect a hefty price tag from an electronic performance company :rolleyes:

[DRW]

Over on the EVO forums, evolutionm.com (or is it .net?) they are finding the EVO is really easy to mod. You know the stories of how easy it is to put a 1G AWD into the 12's? Well it's kinda like that. It seems Mitsu has given us a car with tons of potential yet again.
The boost tapers off from 19 psi at about 3500 rpm and drops off to 16 psi by around 5500 rpm. Get a boost controller, intake and exhaust (sound familiar?) and you've got well over 300 HP.
I don't know how reliable the STi will be. It's a new engine. I'd rather not gamble on modding an engine that hasn't been proven yet. Time will tell.
Anyone heard what the STi weighs yet?
This week my choice would be the EVO. And if money weren't an issue I'd get a Porsche Turbo. 425 HP with AWD! Oh yeah!

[V8SpankR]

Originally posted by DRW

I don't know how reliable the STi will be. It's a new engine. I'd rather not gamble on modding an engine that hasn't been proven yet. Time will tell.
Anyone heard what the STi weighs yet?


The 2.5 has been used in the RS for the last 5 years and I don't think reliability will be an issue and from what I've heard the STi should wiegh in at under 3200lbs.

[DRW]

OK then. This week I like the STi!

[drtalon]

Hmmm...

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-dr

[TSITALONGUY03]

Id like pictures of you in the car along with 3 relatives names and address's that i can contact to confirm that you own a 03 EVO 8;)

-j

[DRW]

OMG lookout! The Interrnet EVO Ownership Police have found you!!! RUN!!!

[mnbv]

haha

[AWD92TalonTSi]

I was at the mitsu dealership buying some brake shims and i got to talking to one of the salespeople and he goes "oh wow a 1G" so i think he actually knows something about the cars he's selling. we look at and i start asking some questions about the evo/4g63 and such and he goes "yea i really dont know a whole of about these" good grief. but i got to sit in one. i felt like i was goin fast just sitting there. they did an excellent job on the interior only problem is the boost gauge (it looks like a mech. one but the dealer was clueless) is mounted below the radio. not convienent for tuning.
the FMIC is massive, so is the IC piping. the valve cover is magnesium, which would be great unless it catches on fire. It looks alot more spacius under the hood than the STi.
but i can't ignore the 30 more ponies on the sti and teh 6th gear. it will be another 2 years before i graduate and can consider either one. i'm pretty sure buschurracing, machv and all those guys will have had plenty of time to tweak those out. i'll make my decision then.
bryan

[NYSpyderGS-T]

For looks and for all around performance i would go w/ the STI...... but for all around comfort and options i would put my money down on the EVO VIII.

[9d3awd]

one thing i dont think anyone has brought up is the handling of these cars. the one thing that really pissed me off about the american spec evo viii is that it DOESNT HAVE THE ACTIVE CENTER DIFFERENTIAL of the japanese model (with gravel, tarmac, and snow settings). in other words, 50/50 split and understeer aplenty. being that the japanese models are supposed to be very driftable, this is a sad indication of what mitsu thinks americans care about. of course, theyre right, we have straight roads and stoplights. but for someone who would autocross an evo, the oldschool awd is a disappointment. ironically, the sti does have an adjustable diff but it doesnt help from what ive read...it's probably front heavy, what with those 300 hp and all.

also i personally would prefer an evo or sti over a dsm making more power because chances are the evo (especially if it werent the dumbed down american one) will be a more cohesive package...years of rally experience will do that to a car. sports cars are fun to drive, dragsters are fun to race.

download some videos from the british tv show 'top gear' if you want to see what i mean...

[DRW]

Now that both cars have been out for a while there are plenty of first hand reports about each cars virtues and drawbacks. Now I definately prefer the EVO! The handling is much better, and for me that makes the difference. The STi is more "Americanized" than the EVO despite the differentials used. I think that might be because Mitsu knew the majority of EVO buyers would be insiders, people who already know about it, are already enthusiasts, and like the crisp handling of a true sports car. Subaru had to soften the handling of the STi so it would be safe for the majority of it's buyers, who are typical mainstream Americans, as in- "trail braking oversteer is deady and irresponsible!"

It won't take long for a vendor to come out with a clutch type LSD front and center diff for the EVO, which will make it even better at twisty racing.

[imdrax]

i would definatly have to say the sti because it is one of the most awesome stock cars i have ever seen. plus the evo viii is so fuckin ugly.if only the evo viii looked like the evo vi.

[GenoCide]

Acceleration, top speed (6 spd), torque (2.4), response (more power from less boost), and (for me) looks I have to choose the STI,

-=HOWEVER=-

For handling, confidence in the car, and sheer driving pleasure the EVO's got it!

Car and driver did a great report on it on TV and even had Rhys Millen race them against a clock. Basically the test results and race results were the same, although the EVO was down 30 HP and quite a bit of acceleration (at least in the 1/4 mile); on the road course AND the rally course it actually BEAT the STI with the same drivers due to it's superior handling & driving characteristics, and everyone who drived it said it was a lot easier to just get in, sit down, and drive fast. I'll be looking for one once that classic huge mitsubishi depreciation starts kicking in :rolleyes:

[TurboMitsu]

well.... I must say that after years around dsm's and absolutely loving them I ventured over to subaru... i have considered many different factors before making that choice, but after waiting and waiting for the evo to hit the us market, I've simply lost patience with mitsu and test drove a wrx. From there on I've never looked back.

The main reason why went to wrx's was mitsubishis very ignorant attitude towards the whole crank-walk issue, in fact this was the major factor in my decision.

Subaru's have their own problems too, in fact I've had my tranny re-built already because there was a component in transmission that would prematurely wear, especially when you drove the car hard. Subaru had enough guts to admit that they do have a problem with their tranny and they will do everything they can to keep me happy :) In this case, they have rebuild the tranny with updated third gear components to eliminate the problem.

1g's and 2g's will always have my respect... Mitsubishi as a company has lost all of it... and people still wonder why Tommi Makinen left Mitsubishi :P

[ScreamingEagle]

Yea yea i know that this is an old thread... but I feel the need to put in my 2 cents.

I love my dsm's.. I have 2, but I also have a subaru... My boyfriend has 2 subarus, oneof which being an STi.

I havent gotten to ddrive and EVO, but I do drive theSTi on a regular basis, and reading up on them both, seeing EVO's in action, and driving the STi,I would definately hve to choose the STi.

The DCCD is AWESOME!!! and you can't beat it's grip. The ride is a little harsh for some people, but I'm used to feeling cigarette buts that I run over, so it doesn't bother me too much.

Also, there's just something about having a 6 speed that makes me drool. Reverse is a little funny, you have to pull up on the shifter ring to get into R, so it takes some getting used to.

As far as working on it, it's not toobad. The spark plugs are a bitch, as in all Subarus, but for the most part, it's no worse than working on a DSM (especially the n/a)

The seats are as soft as park benches, but rather supportive, especially in the head area. they also get totally vertical, which is how I like to drive. My non power seats do that, but the basted power leather ones will not get vertical, which is something pretty important to me.

The intake manifold has this red coating on it, even if you go run the shit out of it, you can pop the hood and grab ahold of the intake manifold and it's cool to the touch.

I don't know about the water spray intercooler, I don't notice any difference with it, but it sure uses up the water quickly.And it can only take distilled water.

The STi hauls ass! Considering it's running ~14.5psi it's freaken sick (compared to the EVO 19psi.) The stock turbo isn't too big, but it spools at around 2200 rpm. It will cut off around 5800 rpm, but with the addition of an MBC you can get it to boost at ~16psi and hold it until redline with not side effects.

Fuel cut is at 17.5 psi but you can go plenty fast without nearing fuel cut. It's quick off the line, but the tight gears make for some pretty hasty shifting. The short throw shifter is very nice for rapid shifts.

As I stated before, I would hands down take the STi over the EVO. The only issue I have, is that I don't want to have his and hers STi's.

[iggypop]

I love my car but I'm getting sick of having two doors. I was just at the mitsu. dealership the other day and sat in one with leather seats upgraded sound system. It's soooooo much nicer than any1g and 2g. In my 1g i feel soo cramped inside. In the evo it feels like you just have sooooo much more space. I wouldn't call it a grocery getter. Why, just because it has four doors. Would you call the pontiac gtp a grocery getter just because it has four doors.And those cars can kick ass with like 4 grand.If you want to say that the evo is rice. Did you ever look at the seats of the sti. They are this ugly blue suade.which looks really ricey. I'm not making fun of the sti. But come on they are both awesome cars. Personally i think the evo is the most beautyfull car out there. But beauty is in hte eyes of the beholder. Some people think our cars are ugly.

[Taboo]

Originally posted by iggypop
I wouldn't call it a grocery getter. Why, just because it has four doors. Would you call the pontiac gtp a grocery getter just because it has four doors.
Yes, I would :D . If it's boxy and has 4 doors, it's a grocery getter - no matter how many HP or what suspension or brakes it might have. One can put a jet engine in a school bus and run some insane 1/4-mile numbers, but it's still not going to turn it into a sports car. It's still going to be a school bus - with jet engine in it... :dunno:

[iggypop]

so your not going call the evo a sports car. Dude the evo killed the rally circuit since it came out. It is a sports car. It more than a lancer with brembo brakes and better shocks. So what is your defintion of a sports car, any car with two doors?Even my car a nonturbo talon is considered a sports car by the standards of the insurance company.

[JUNKGSX]

i'm sorry, but i have to say 'hands down' "STI"

[TSITALONGUY03]

Damn this thread is older than shit...

-j

[ArchangelTSi]

This might be an old thread but I think it is not dead. . . .EVO's are the best hands down. STi is nice, not as fast, and UUUUUGGGGLLLLLYYYYYYYYYYY!!! I mean really ugly. The front hood scoop looks like a mattel toy car threw it up. I have been foolowing the EVO even before it came here to the US. One Bad A$$ Car!! Definately better than most in any class. Superior to all in its price range. I am looking forward to the EVO X (you can Google it under Mitsubishi Concept X ) Now I love this car to death. If I had a first born I would give it up for this car. The style, engineering, details, everything. . . .Simply amazing!! We need a new vote (not that it matters) about the new EVO against the new STi. I know the EVO is going to win. The EVO X should be released late 2007. Any donations for my new car? :D

[7inchexhaust]

yea this thread is old as mess (and thats old). but yea i loved the STi until now...the 07's are just plain disgusting. they ruined the looks completely. ill still take a 02-05 any day tho :P

[92-stealth-twin]

I would take the STi, already Have and Evo 9 MR :)

[ArchangelTSi]

I would take the STi, already Have and Evo 9 MR :)

Are you unhappy with the EVO 9 MR? Do you think that the STi would be better? and why? If you want to sell your EVO, or when you do, let me know :)

[scrapin_frame]

if money was no object, i would buy both!!! i'd have a white evo and a white sti both sporting gold or bronze wheels. if i had to pick one or the other, it would be a very tough decision

[araknid01]

i personally like the look of the sti more.. it doesnt have as much of a shoe look as the evo does.. the evo looks like a pissed off samurai.. i cant take the look of that front bumper.

[Boorail85]

I always thought a EVO would be a great DD! However, the STi has the best sounding 4cyl engine ever.. and looks good too.. but, I'd have to go with a EVO.. or clean 2g!

[DRW]

meh, the STi/WRX sound like they're misfiring. I prefer the crisp, even sound of our inline 4. At high rpm it reminds me of a big bore sportbike.

The first time I heard a WRX with a 3" exhaust I thought it sounded like an old VW dune buggy. bleh.

[Darksurfr]

EVO has much better of an AWD system and has won way more races. Plus, im not big on subaru....they arent bad cars, but they just keep Fing the look of the car. The 2004-2005s were nice...the 06s look ugly as crap front.

The evo has stayed relativly the same, but here comes the X!

[Darksurfr]

the FMIC is massive, so is the IC piping. the valve cover is magnesium, which would be great unless it catches on fire. It looks alot more spacius under the hood than the STi.

Holy crap...the magnesium thing just makes me laugh. I know its light and its a great idea till I tell my dad and he says, yea i have seen those before. Forgot what carfire it was but we had to just wait till it burned out completely because you cant put that out very easily. They more or less just drench everything in order to help keep it cool. you gotta have a class D Extinguisher for that.
Not every truck carries them. They tend to try to because of stuff like that.

[Sudou]

If you would have said EVO III I would have gone with the EVO but since that wasn't an option I'll have to go with my DSM even if I do have the 4G37 instead of the 4G63T.

[Talonman2000]

I sold STI's for a while, and I would definately take the EVO!

[TsiTripp]

I was not very impressed with the evo i test drove

[Struckanerve]

yeah the evo 8 is ok but the new wrx sti looks way better in my opinion i think they sound a little nicer to

[dougdeez]

Evo all the way. Imo, the sti looks like a drunk version of scooby doo.

[KScivic]

Hmmmm anyone think maybe we're a little biased?

[AWD_DSM]

who wants to spend 2 hours changing spark plugs. Gotta stay with the 4g63 evo.

[Shifted*TSi]

reliability and styling i would take the sti all day evo responds great to bolts the 4g63 has been around for almost 2 decades but i believe the sti still has untapped potential .i choose the sti mitsu reliablity suxs ass

[BostinSwifty38]

I love the evo's. We blacked out the headlights and tails on my buddie's evo-looks good. But, The money spent on the evo is money to make the dsm that much faster, and after doing a clutch on his evo 4 times, i think the dsm is easier to work on by far. Sti's...they are for traitors. :)

-A. Swift

[boosted92dsm]

Theres absolutely nothing like the look on a $30k Evo drivers face when a $2000 car puts him to shame. DSM's all the way!

[Tokenboy]

evo all day every day. no doubt!!!! A matter of fact the evo out did the sti for about 5 years.

[dsm8883]

if the subaru boxer engine design is such a great design why are there not more manufactures jumping on board? u see evo's making 700+hp how many subaru boxer engines are making 700hp without being straight drag car queens i think the horizontally opposed engines sound like an vw running on 3 cylinders, and the horizontally opposed engine design makes them hard to work on even to change the spark plugs or do head work. i would buy an evo or an ws6. thanks my cent and a half!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[goshawty]

Id say sti but the 4g63 is a way more reputable motor, with more bolt ons and cheaper/easier to work on. Depends what your in for. Leaving stock id take the sti.

[90BlueGSX]

The power of the 4G63 has been proven over and over again.

I don't even want to work on that pancake motor, Just thinking about it; gives me a headache

[BostinSwifty38]

hell, with the unequal super long runners for the exhaust, the sti guys bitch at a 16g spooling laggy as ***k!

-A. Swift

[foxgst]

gotta stay 4g63. If Mitsubishi hasen't switched Premium model engines in 20 years, then it must tell you something.

[Morpherex]

Our EVO doesn't even have S-AYC... I'd say go with Subie. Not to mention the boxer engine has the tranny in the center, not on the side. So it's better weight distrobution

[dsm8883]

Our EVO doesn't even have S-AYC... I'd say go with Subie. Not to mention the boxer engine has the tranny in the center, not on the side. So it's better weight distrobution
my answer to that is the MR bigger turbo 6 speed and 300 pounds lighter;)

[eagletalon139]

Stay with DSM for sure but if i had to pick it would be STi. My friends has one and it is the most ballinest thing ever has volk rims and has basically everything that I want on my car. It has like 380 whp and that is no lie had it dynoed at LSE Performance in MN saw slip myself. Fastest thing that I have ever been in besides his dads Mercades Benz SL55 and his new Porsche 911 Turbo fastest thing on the face of this earth.

[madson55]

I personnally liked the evo better. I'm taller and i just felt uncomfortable in the sti.

[97upstatetsi]

EVO all the way thats all I can say. I love them.:D

[Celticbluegs-t]

Subby alll the freaking way....i love that car....sounds so muscular and throaty.....really sucks to work on though

[BostinSwifty38]

eagletalon95, who are you? I know the guys at LSE. Yo usure those numbers weren't corrected? I'd like to see the chart and mods list please. There are a few semi-quick sti's around here, but none from lse, or dynoed there. Those guys go to RS motors I think. Matt, erik have the fastest sti in the state if i remember correctly.

-A. Swift

[taylork057]

definatly evo. sexier,faster and hell, its a mitsubishi

[420aboy]

Evo for the win.:D

[johnnytsi]

The evo hands down

[dsm_roller]

STI minus rear spoiler, minus the tail lights

[ezekiel888]

EVO all the way. One of the cleanest 4dr cars ever. sti comes in second though.

[KyleGST]

dsm>evo,sti

[KyleGST]

although...i love MIVEC!!

[1gawd4g63]

i believe that top gear already answrered this question for us. EVO time 1,647,318

[Saad]

Evo all the way. And i'd only buy if i had money to mod it with.If no mod money, im sticking with my dsm. Evo over sti though for sure, it is more mod friendly and the 4g63 has huge aftermarket support.

[whiteturbo]

STI: boxer ftw

[YesMrYang]

You have to admit, an STI with a nice exhaust sounds like pure sex.

But Mitsu's have always had an edgier look that I've always admired.

[projecTSI]

I would have to say evo just because it looks mean as hell, and the 4g63 responds very well to mods, and is easier to work on(from what i hear)

[95_eclipse_gs-t]

Definitly an Evo, i love everything about them, cant wait till i get out of college and get one!

[robcatch]

Both cars have come a long way but lets face it, mod for mod stock the evo is by far a better car. Evo comes stock with a shorter route manifold, bigger turbo, fmic, better steering rack, oh yah it has a 4g63t with mivec. :D I wont preach any more because I'm sure you guys allready know how good it really is.:rolleyes: But on subarus side, there comes displacement and there is no replacement for that... Oh yah, and the only reason why Subarus sound "soo good" with exhaust is because of the unequal legth headers they come with.:(

All in all Id rather have the car I allready have... or a 1g with a built 6bolt:banana:

[16gSpyderGS-T]

A buddy of mine got an 04 Evo off of the showroom floor. That car was soo fun to drive. Once the boost controller and turbo back went on, the car went from awesome to rediculious. Evo's are just absoltely amazing. It just sucked when he traded it in for an Envoy...

[4g64fiero]

Porche,err, I mean 1992 gsx!

I voted for the evo.

[turbotalon1g]

Since there is an option for DSM i pick that.
not really a subie fan, and the evo's is a little too common for me and too much of a craze, but a badass car

[boostintsi1990]

dsm, Because if i had the money i would put it all in my car. And have one sick dsm!!

[Spoolin69]

EVO Bitches!! FTW!!

[chowda633]

Test drove an evo just didn't compair to my dsm. WRX garbage to me.

[bobbyt]

No car will ever be as beautiful as a 2G but the joy of owning an sti or evo would make up for it. I find as im getting older i'm starting to factor in other things when purchasing a car. A 4dr is handy and you won't be forced to sell it if you have kids. Being safe is another.

I'd choose the WRX, the lancer has very poor crash ratings on iihs.org. I hope the 2008 evo brings things up to par with the WRX. Also here in Canada we're still waiting for the evo. So that makes it even easier for me. :)

[T.L.B.]

I had a mildly modified WRX, blew it up and bought an Evo. I would buy a WRX over an STi any day because I could care less about track racing, I just want to drag and for the difference in price you will murder an STi in a straight line once it's modded.

My problem with the Evo is that it lacks the extra half a litre, good clutch and stronger transmission.

I would still buy an Evo because it's a meaner looking car and once you have had an Evo it's hard to drive anything else because nothing is that fun to drive - point and go.

[95clipgst]

I'll stick with my 2g but for a grocery getter i'll get an evo please with no wing.

[pwrdby4g63]

Now in this case I seriously have to give it to the STi as far as all around options etc, and ultimately the best out of the box, my concern however is the flat engine and the fun times I'd have working on it. That is why I chose the EVO, not because of its triumph over the STi (in my opinion it didnt) but rather that it's a more mod friendly car most likely and not such a pain in the ass to work on.

Your right the STI is a bit better than the EVO right out of the box, but the EVO is much more tuner friendly. That and it's got on the best engines in the world, the 4G63, so I would go for the EVO. :puke: STI

[Seanaynay25]

Although I like both, The Evo will be in my hands before an STI

[Matt Park]

+1 for Evo, keep it in the family

[turbo_red4g63]

I have seen so much on the evo performaing better in the long run, plus it has a 4g63 :)

[1gnasty]

i will go for a nice evo 9 instead

[92fwdMITSU]

EVO's and STI's are great and all but I prefer my '06 Mazdaspeed6 AWD. 2.3l 274hp turbo , 6spd manual with LSD , leather, moonroof and luxury as well as speed and handling. ;)

http://i137.photobucket.com/albums/q233/06mazda6/Ennio1.jpg

[boostedsilver_X]

ive got buddys with both and would say after hell rides in both that sti is more intense...but as a dsm owner id say evo

[JOEY A]

STI all the way...and I like the locking diff



Evos are the new DSM.....shit likes to break and the older it gets...well you know how mistu is, qaulity isnt there high mark..

[EASTcoastGST]

Uhh id take a 1st gen GSX. haha

[robcatch]

Its wierd how you guys are saying STI. My good friend Bunny has an 07 STI (his second sti, his first was an 05) and he and says he would rather have the EVO.

[EASTcoastGST]

I believe that the EVO was proven to be a better car Than the STI. Track tested. Dont exactly remember what year or all that good stuff.

[EASTcoastGST]

OH YEAH and the EVO is also 100x sexier than the STI and is a Mitsu...:banana: For all of you who would like the STI shame on you!

[90laser_rst]

I do like the looks of an EVO, but the STI's sound freakin sick! I think Id just have to get both!:P

[partemisio]

No question about it EVO FTW.

[roadragemotors]

you guys are forgeting about the mazdaspeed 6?

[blakkjak]

Earlier subaru or newer evo

[Wraith]

Having driven both, EVO. I was made for that car.

[spydey972.4]

okay evo ftw a sti sounds like a ride on lawnmower

[Turbo4reek]

It all comes down to:


If you want to build a highly modded car for as cheap as possible = EVO

If money is an object and your not looking to set any records and you want RELIABILITY = STI

[Turbo4reek]

:EDIT: If money is no boject :EDIT:

[sL98-Tsi]

EVO ftw

[HOT97ECLIPSEGSX]

Sorry but the Mazdaspeed 6 has nothin' on the Evo...looks or anything. Sorry. Just my opinion.

:puke: compared to the Evo.

[twinturbo3k]

If they were stock, I would say an Evo MR, if we can mod them I would say Evo RS. I do not like STIs very much, they arent that good looking and I do not like the way they sound.

[empie1]

I wish there was a selection for "yamaha r1"....id take that over either of those cars!

[MyBoostedGST]

I love the Evo. But I love the sound of the Boxter engine. I hate the looks of the NEW STI's....but if you take the spoiler off the old Sube's, they look sharp as hell.

Overall,I would take an Evo...keep it mostly stock. Exhuast, suspension, tint, gauges. Then I would buy a car for modding. Buick Grand National. :D

[noname7198]

If the evo had 2 doors I'd buy one, but until then I'm keeping my gsx.

[Wraith]

If the evo had 2 doors I'd buy one, but until then I'm keeping my gsx.

Agreed. I think thats why I spent so much on modding rather than just buying an evo.

[forcdndukshun]

You can't be a trader it has to be an EVO all the way. Everyone I meet down here is either die hard mitsu or die hard subies. I'll keep the gsx. I love the look on the face of twenty year old punks in thier sti's with exhaust which are just "so fast" when they get beaten by a ten year old car with a 145k on it. I like to do more with less. $9300 dollar car beating a 30k+ car pure fun.

[GS4U2NV]

I love my Eclipse, but wouldnt mind owning a Evo VIII neither!!

[GST77]

Evo viii not doubt. It out performs the wrx by a few seconds on their lap times. It just hooks up better around a turn

[flash1970]

i'd take a WRX. evo's are ugly IMO. i'd stick with a dsm over either of them for looks.

[Boxcarracer944]

STi's are hawt in my book.

[rodent]

Having owned an STi for 4 years, I have a little insight.

The 2.5 engine is nice to have with torque before the boost kicks in. The TMIC isn't all that great and gets heat soaked pretty quick. It is a PITA to work on though with the boxer design. A good equal length header will set you back almost a grand but you will lose the boxer rumble. Stock turbo sucks ass and can't keep up with the air flow so a turbo upgrade is usally needed. A bolt on FP Red can fit in the stock location but its REALLY tight. A better way to go is a rotated GT30 or GT35 turbo kit but you're looking at 3-4 grand plus the extra's needed. The drivetrain is rock solid. I had over 75 passes on my stock clutch and I always did 5-6k RPM launches. Its pretty hard to break the trans, t-case or axles. Stock pistons are weak so if you really want to put the power down, I'd suggest a new short block from Axis. It is nice to lock the t-case but I never did that racing. Auto mode works just fine. The only time I locked the t-case was in snow/icy conditions. The interior rattles like crazy and its hard to get rid of them. The big tail wing blocks your rear view a little and actually hurts quarter mile times. I ended up taking mine off. Springs suck ass on the STi and need to be changed out. Stock struts are good.

The Evo comes with a better turbo from the factory but the drivetrain is weaker IMO (clutch, trans, t-case). The Evo can be made quicker with just a few mods where you almost have to get a different turbo for the STi to make it as quick.

I test drove a MazdaSpeed6. It sure doesn't feel like 274hp and the market sucks for those cars to make them any faster.

If I had to do it all over again and decide between the STi and Evo, I would of got the Evo since its cheaper to modify.

If you have more questions on the STi, feel free to PM me.

[Mclarengsx]

If I had a gun to my face to pick an EVO or STI. It would be an EVO, hands-down. I think the front end is as aggressive, if not a little more so than the late model GSX or the late model VR-4 3k. If I didn't want to spend over 30k, I'd buy a Silver '99 GSX without taking another breath! lol I wanted a GSX since 1995 (I was in 5th grade) That's how bad my heart bleeds diamonds!

-----------------------------------------------------

"We learned at an early age FWD sucks"
::Picture of Tricycle Here::
:)

[Black_ bullet]

Having owned an STi for 4 years, I have a little insight.

The 2.5 engine is nice to have with torque before the boost kicks in. The TMIC isn't all that great and gets heat soaked pretty quick. It is a PITA to work on though with the boxer design. A good equal length header will set you back almost a grand but you will lose the boxer rumble. Stock turbo sucks ass and can't keep up with the air flow so a turbo upgrade is usally needed. A bolt on FP Red can fit in the stock location but its REALLY tight. A better way to go is a rotated GT30 or GT35 turbo kit but you're looking at 3-4 grand plus the extra's needed. The drivetrain is rock solid. I had over 75 passes on my stock clutch and I always did 5-6k RPM launches. Its pretty hard to break the trans, t-case or axles. Stock pistons are weak so if you really want to put the power down, I'd suggest a new short block from Axis. It is nice to lock the t-case but I never did that racing. Auto mode works just fine. The only time I locked the t-case was in snow/icy conditions. The interior rattles like crazy and its hard to get rid of them. The big tail wing blocks your rear view a little and actually hurts quarter mile times. I ended up taking mine off. Springs suck ass on the STi and need to be changed out. Stock struts are good.

The Evo comes with a better turbo from the factory but the drivetrain is weaker IMO (clutch, trans, t-case). The Evo can be made quicker with just a few mods where you almost have to get a different turbo for the STi to make it as quick.

I test drove a MazdaSpeed6. It sure doesn't feel like 274hp and the market sucks for those cars to make them any faster.

If I had to do it all over again and decide between the STi and Evo, I would of got the Evo since its cheaper to modify.

If you have more questions on the STi, feel free to PM me.


I pretty much aggree with this post. I work on my friends 04 sti all the time and ist a pita to work on. The evo is much easier to work on and mod, and if you really pay attention there are street class evos going much faster than stis down the 1/4 and evos are also faster in road race/ and time lap events most of the time. It generally makes more power and comes out on top as far as raw performance... Now the subie is better for rally autox type events id say. The subie would feel faster on the street because of the broader more linear torquey power band due to its 2.5liters. The gearing on the subie sucks ass once you get to 3rd on up, very short which im sure is the main cause for hurt 1/4 mile times. The actually find both cars equally attractive.
The subie has a much better interior imo, but id get a evo- 4g63 is the best 4cylinder in my opinion not the ej2.5... But the ej25 engine is probably better in stock form.

[Black_ bullet]

not to mention there is a bigger/ cheaper aftermarket for the evos when it comes to hardcore modding and the evos handling abilities are better and more tecnical than the suburus... BUT one thing i can say is the subie sounds better lol...

Heres something from top gear

http://youtube.com/watch?v=ioNjbsjAZ8k&mode=related&search=

[unkachabull]

Wait time out... The wing on a sti hurts track times? Honestly how much of a difference can that possibly make?

[rodent]

Wait time out... The wing on a sti hurts track times? Honestly how much of a difference can that possibly make?

2-3mph and about 1/10. Not much but its been proven.

[unkachabull]

Lol wow people actually figure this stuff out? I wouldve never even thought about that... So it is the same with our cars because i took off my turbo spoiler haha.

[TSi_Tuner07]

if i had to choose, i would take the sti over the evo. but my dsm over both.

[corsair231]

Evo definantly. Tone it down just a little by getting rid of the baby buggy spoiler. The STi is too boy racerish the Evo is a little classier.

[jordan080303]

I dont' have enought information to make a decision based solely on peformance, but as far as looks I choose Evo VIII.

[Ryno2Fifty]

If money is no object then I would rather keep my DSM and throw $$$$ at it since the body style is so much better than noth EVO and STi.

[empie1]

<----------Evo..........Theres a really good article on this same debate in this months sport compact.

[95GSX6bolt]

I've ridden and driven both, Evo takes my vote hands down.

[pboglio]

Normally, STi all the way. But I did run into a Gun Metal Grey EVO MR the other day, and it actually looked damned good. All other EVOs look ugly in my opinion, like somebody said "Looks like a turtle":D I'll take my STi with its big block motor low end torque and crappy cast pistons.

[my_gsT95]

Geez another thread that doesn't die :)

I own a GC8 with an STI swap and I love it. I would own a Evo 8 if it actually came with the active YAWwwww control and all the other electronic gadgets that make the car drive the car and not the drive. Without it, it's like an overpriced DSM. To the original poster back in 2003...EVO 8!

GC8 = 2G DSM > 2008 STI > EVO 8 > 2002-2007 STI

[turbo4g63t]

I said the Evo VIII just b/c they seem to be easier to get more power out of...especially on stock turbo. Plus I love the look of just about every evo except for the new X. Driveability wise i can't say which one I favor b/c i've only driven the Evo. Also the only sti model i like are the 04-05 models...every model since has seemed to get uglier and uglier.

[Hucks]

Hands down Evo VIII! I would even take it over the Evo Xl. Beautiful car.

[Vinman]

Evo by all means. Got to be the blue one though.

[DARK HORSE]

i love them booth but there something about evo's

[quique_7]

Hands down EVO VIII. They look a lot better than the STI's plus the tranny doesn't sound like is shatering when you throw 2nd gear like in a DSM.

[TsiLuver]

Evo all the way.

[GPTourer]

I'd pick an Evo now and again. The X is even better.

[Sav4G63]

EVO VIII! I'm not a big WRX fan.

[Wants2Drive]

Im big Evo fan but i do like the 04 sti's

[madhatch]

i do know some of the sti guys are complaining about that upside down strut design... and the evo is less maintenenace intensive but got to love the sound of that boxer motor.

[dsmfan95]

STi










sike

[pboglio]

Now that I've seen both the new STi and EVO X in person, I can comment. Although the STi is ugly in pictures, it is pretty dang cool in person. They took a big risk in the styling department but at least it has character. The EVO X looks like a late 80's square sedan with a body kit. It looks somewhat attractive and aggressive, but it has no character. It looks alot less Mitsubishi, more homogenized even with the aggressive body kit. The STi is following along with the current "5 door" sedan look (i.e. Mazda3, etc.) but it comes off looking VERY rally car like.

[OG EVO]

Ha, not like this Poll is biased or anything ;). I've gotta stay loyal to Mitsu, I'd much rather have an Evo VIII or IX than an STI.

[1512gvr4]

Evo Ftw!!

[myAWDgst]

EVO all the way...

[NY 95 TSI AWD]

Definitely the Evo.

[DKPR87]

Man... honestly Subies are nice but EVO's are so damn sexy LOL!!!!

[frankozz]

I love my Dsm... No evos or Sti's here!!

[P.C.Yang]

I've driven both Evo and STi, VIII's and IX's, and 2004-2007 STis. I hate the look of the STis. It's an Impreza with parts added on. The whole thing looks like an engineering after thought, not just the exterior.

I have worked on both cars pretty extensively as well.

The Evo is not a Lancer. You put both of those in the air and one look at the underchassis will have you scratching your head why they are even considered the "same". The Evo is THAT different. All the arms are aluminum, and the rear is a true multilink independent setup. An awesome car top to bottom if you know what you makes a good car.

The STi and all Imprezas (2.5i, WRX, Wagon, etc.) look the same from underneath. The STi has beefier arms, and a couple aluminum pieces here and there, but it's layout is the same as the rest of the Impreza lineup. The rear is a limited double lateral rod suspension that you will see on FWD Nissans, Mazdas, Toyotas, and a couple Domestics. There is no camber movement on the 2007 and older Imprezas in the rear.

After working on both models, and driving them, I bought an Evo VIII. Never looked back. :D

[Loner]

NO dought an evo.

[code]

I'd take the evo. I've never looked into it but I've heard the subaru's get very expensive to mod. And theres no way I can leave it stock.

[somoney311]

Voted STi!
I had a 2005 so I know the car is a blast. I should have never sold it but when you have 4 kids the whole family cannot fit in at one time. And yes it was the family car...the wife loved it and cried when we had to sell it.

[jjrock5]

Definitely EVO 8, thumbs down for the EVO X (seems to be a performance machine but it just doesnt 'look' right)

[Ghettodsm91]

WOW! Super old thread haha! I voted for the evo(of any iteration would be good with me!)

I would love to have an evo as a daily and have my 1g dsm as the all out performance, no constraints, purpose built vehicle!

[dannyrampage]

4G63 was not to like.

[jwhalen07]

Evo for the mfw. Im getting one this summer. Woot

[goku28]

EVO for sure. Almost bought one once, all I had to do was sign the paperwork and it was a done deal but I decided not to. Wish I did sign it now. But o well, still have the GSX.

[sireal]

Evo all the way

[poprock187]

i love them both.first off i have driven and evo and a sti. they are both fun cars
but i have always loved the evos more. plus there easier to work on.stis have a little more complex set up. i also live by busher racing,and he is the master when it comes to dsms and evos ,he also tuned my friends sti. so its a win win for me.if i did have to buy one. money not an object i would buy an evo.

[reboundicon]

Eventually one day, i'll upgrade to an Evo 8 or 9...the prices in Canada for these cars is insane though. Most Evo 9's I have seen are $32-35000...

[MitsuModder]

Between an EVO VIII and STi I take EVO, but EVO 10 vs. STi I take STi.

[mobythevan]

I just don't like the plain econo commuter look of the evo, ugh. WRX if I had dollars to burn.

[ibjamin01]

STI for all the creature comforts. I enjoy the responsiveness those cars have stock.

[vegeta]

evo rulesssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss!!!!!!

[Marq97GSX]

Evo 8 cause you can run DSMLink on it FTMFW!

[PandaTalon]

Sti because it has a very distinctive sound

[Spoolin69]

Evo because I own one!!

EVO FTW!!!!!!!!

[oVaBoost]

EVO all tha WAY! STI is nice but cant make good power like the evo would!

[1gcrazy]

I bought a wrx instead of waiting for an evo. Bad Idea, WRX is crap. Doesnt' make power for shit.

[Tombaman]

All depends on what you want. I have driven both cars. I still like the Evo over the STI. WRX's still make power. It's just with a STI you are starting from a higher platform.

[Stroked2G]

Never driven either, but I have never seen a over all comparison that did not end up with the EVO wining, and plus It a mitsu so I am down.
STI's are nice tho I respect them.
I voted EVO

[bzerkkiller]

what kinda question...evo 8 any day. STIs arent that great. they just sound nice. lol

[u2slow]

The EVO is better than the Subby, but I hate the four doors and love my DSM.

[chrisc75]

sti all the wayy

[WillWork4Parts]

Evo

[CrackedDSM]

Evo > STwhy? ;)

[Spoolin69]

EVO......I am kind of biased though ;)

[Octane]

Evos FTW. No sube has been in fast and the furious either :chair:

[frankozz]

You were going to let your sister drive one.... Shame on you...

[CrackedDSM]

You were going to let your sister drive one.... Shame on you...


Notice she never got one...that's because I talked her out of it. No lame ass STwhy is gonna set ten feet near my property. ;)

[Asmodeus]

Having owned and been around all of the above...

I like the evo the best for a D/D. But only modded. If I had to take a STOCK car, and KEEP it stock, out of the 3? I'd take the STi 7 days a week. That 2.5l and all that torque, combined with DCCD... car is super fun right out of the box.

I like DSM's because they are like silly putty in my hands. I have fooled around with them enough that I can extract whatever I want from any of them... I know proven combinations of parts, turbo's I like, etc. I can do whatever I want and know how to get there. And they are by far the best looking of the 3. Evo's just do the same thing with seating for 4, parts cost more, and you get to start with a newer pile of parts.

Don't be so hard on the Subaru. In modded form they are the clear loser. But for all the more many people mod their cars... or maintain them... the STi isn't a bad car.

[mhayz]

Hello everyone!
This is mhayz!
I also like my OBD1 ecu,never throws a code (mine never has in the 7 years I've owned it) and you get 55 samples a second through a Pocketlogger from the ecu.

Thank's!...

[WunnEye]

STI FTW I'd only get an Evo if i rele had the goal of modding it. But my boys have stock Sti's and i never had a better ride in a stock car

[tryingtobebest]

If money was no object which would you buy - the new Mitsubishi EVO VIII or the new Subaru WRX Sti? :cool:

EVO all the way

[907dsm]

STI FTW I'd only get an Evo if i rele had the goal of modding it. But my boys have stock Sti's and i never had a better ride in a stock carhmm I totally beg to differ, coming from having 3 modded Wrx's and now an Evo 9 I would say the 9 handles alot better.

EVO all the way +123456789

[robbsclassics]

This is why I would get a STI between the two. The dealer support is better. Mitsu dealers have a history of "Oh, thats an aftermarket breather? Sorry, out of warranty." It comes with more comfort options, come on mitsu, no cruise. The ride is better for long distance. I haven't rode long distance in either one, but haven't heard any complaints of the subie. I have heard a lot with the Evo though, even a guy that drove a X down to Florida said the rotors warped on the way down. I would rate it like this: All out performance, Evo all the way. Compfort and nice to hop in and go, Subie.

[240sxhicas]

evo