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Tobasco78
02-27-2001, 01:28 PM
Who should we contact if we want to upgrade our ECU??
and is there anyone that did it? what what the difference? Because it has crossed my mind but i am looking for more info on it.




LaFemmeDSM
02-27-2001, 01:37 PM
So far there isn't anyone that does upgrades on the 2g n/t ECU. Someone had sugested it to Todd but there really isn't enough demand like there was with the turbo cars.

Trys_Hard
02-27-2001, 09:55 PM
Originally posted by LaFemmeDSM
So far there isn't anyone that does upgrades on the 2g n/t ECU. Someone had sugested it to Todd but there really isn't enough demand like there was with the turbo cars.
Hey I want one! Who else does!

LaFemmeDSM
02-28-2001, 08:19 AM
Ok checked into this, rumor is Howell automotive is supposed to be working on this, a few months or so. :)

MrCoolCar95
02-28-2001, 09:02 PM
Hey all you NT guys wanting an ECU upgrade. Check
http://www.Landspeedracing.com I saw a Jet ECU Upgrade's for 95-99 N/T Eclipse's They run 449.00 I believe. If u have the latest Sport Compact Car Magazine check the second to last page for landspeed racing's adveritisement...Peace

LaFemmeDSM
02-28-2001, 09:34 PM
Jet will do mods to your ECU but the reason I neglected to mention it is that people who have had this done have had no dynoed power gains.
I just don't think it pays to send $400+ and your ECU to someone to reap not a single gain.

MrCoolCar95
02-28-2001, 10:38 PM
i don't think you send your ECU to them. I think they send you a new aftermarket one. Oh and it's 419.95, not 449.95 Anyways...everyone one was wondering so I hooked up tha info...Peace

JD 95 GS n/t
02-28-2001, 11:40 PM
Originally posted by MrCoolCar95
i don't think you send your ECU to them. I think they send you a new aftermarket one. Oh and it's 419.95, not 449.95 Anyways...everyone one was wondering so I hooked up tha info...Peace Ok i have a jut you have to send your in and they send your back to you 2 day if you.
who said no one make one for a n/t 95 up you need HELP!!!
and yes it help alot I got 10 to 14hp
I have a A420 stock 141 I`m up to 195 + 150shot of N.O.S.
tested with NOS at the wheels 226hp

JD 95 GS n/t
02-28-2001, 11:45 PM
Originally posted by LaFemmeDSM
Jet will do mods to your ECU but the reason I neglected to mention it is that people who have had this done have had no dynoed power gains.
I just don't think it pays to send $400+ and your ECU to someone to reap not a single gain.

What?????????
this is funny hahahahaha
I had a big power gain
if you look at what it is doing you will see it`s helping
alot.

A/F %mix
timing
so what are you talking about???

Jeff99gs
02-28-2001, 11:56 PM
Do NOT get a Jet ECU :)

They do nothing at all for the 2gnt 420a. Its been proven. Simple as that. Howell Automotive has been working on one as rumor has it, and it may be able to read boost, so all we can do is keep our fingers crossed!

JD 95 GS n/t
03-01-2001, 12:12 AM
Originally posted by Jeff99gs
Do NOT get a Jet ECU :)

They do nothing at all for the 2gnt 420a. Its been proven. Simple as that. Howell Automotive has been working on one as rumor has it, and it may be able to read boost, so all we can do is keep our fingers crossed! And what do you have done to your car rims and what????
right A Silver 1995 Mitsubishi Eclipse GS
Mods: Air Fuel, Fuel Pressure, Tack, Water temp., Oil Pressure, EX.temp - Autometer Ultra light series gages. 5 way adj. struts. 2-inch drop springs. Sway bars -front/back. Strut bar braces - front and back. Polyurethane bushings and motor inserts. Ice Man air intake. MSD ignition DSI-2. Jet upgrade ECU. Port injected NOS 150 shot with activation rpm switch. Hotshot header and HKS super dragger exhaust no cat. New 2,500mi. built tuned engine, JE pistons, Mopar performance cams, cam gr. Matched head to intake manifold polished and ported. Match exhaust manifold.

Jeff99gs
03-01-2001, 12:46 AM
I'm very impressed :)

Sad you wasted $400 on the JET ecu :) Its all good though.
Everyone likes standing by their decisons when it comes to modding their cars.

Actually, I only have "rims and what????" because the turbo is going in this summer :) But thanks for playing :)


No offense or anything, just stating the facts..JET ECUs have been proven to do absolutely nothing for the 2gnt. That was the entire point of the post, nothing more. If you've bought it, thats great! I wouldn't buy it, and I wouldn't advise anyone else to either.

w1kk3d
03-01-2001, 05:37 PM
What does everyone think about the Venom400 with it's claims for 25% more HP from 1k-5k rpm?

http://www.newedgeracing.com/nestore/mitsu_computer_upgrades.asp

LaFemmeDSM
03-02-2001, 09:37 AM
JD- sorry have to raise a BS flag on this and I quote.
"and yes it help alot I got 10 to 14hp
I have a A420 stock 141 I`m up to 195 + 150shot of N.O.S.
tested with NOS at the wheels 226hp"

You only got 40 hp out of that 150 shot? Even to the wheels it HAS to be more than that! (226 hp to wheels - 195 hp before NOS.)
What do you run in the 1/4? (timeslips?)
The 10-14 hp gain is what is advertised by Jet, it is pretty funny you use the same "10-14 hp" gain saying.
Anyway if you have actual results based on a stock car adding a Jet ECU I'd love to see them, otherwise your the only one looking like an idiot.

w1kk3d- The Venom400 really doesn't do anything your right foot can't do. It basicly tricks the computer into thinking you are at WOT when you are at 3/4 throttle.
Step'er down and give'r hell :)

10secdsm
03-02-2001, 02:34 PM
I heard that the Venom400 works really good and if you know how to tune your car right you can get the 25% horse power increase.

DarkOne
03-08-2001, 04:10 PM
These are things that those of us at 2gnt.com have gone over under and through way too many times before. The Jet ECU is CRAP. It does NOTHING for our cars. You'd be better off taking that $400 and putting it towards an AFX UDP and a CAI. Even if it's actually a 10HP gain, i sure as shit wouldn't pay $400 for it.. Not enough bang for the buck. there's too many other mods that can be done cheaper than have been proven to net better results. Same thing with the Venom 400: The gains are minimal at best, and absolutely no gain at WOT. the money is better spent elsewhere.

[Edited by DarkOne on 03-08-2001 at 05:15 PM]

roadpie4u
03-09-2001, 09:26 AM
I sent my non turbo ecu to technomotive (www.tmo.com) and they dont do anything to the ECU. Getting the ECU changed is a waste of time and cash. The only thing you want to change is the EPROM Chip - some ECU's dont have one, so you may need to get a hold of them. If you check out their website, they do a few things that will help a lot, for only $300 or less. They will not up the timing values, and I have seen places that will let you able to do anything you want for like $700, but if You get custom parts, better pump & Injectors and give it more air - it'll work well... but. I have a 1g non turbo, so I have to be careful. Next I'm going to put a turbo in, a gauge, and a BOV. No ECU control to the Turbo. Not smart - but the ECU can effect the solenoids and by not telling the car there's a turbo - it just sees more air and higher pressure, and with an internal dash boost controller, you can control the Boost totally on your own. Something I learned from My cousin - who Drag Races a 1986 Grand National - and has like 700+hp from a 3.8v6 Engine. He actually has a twin Turbo Setup- which tells me I should do on my 92 Talon, as the power levels would be absurd - and by keeping the ECU unknowing of it, you can "cheat" by forcing it to compensate and put in higher power when it really shouldnt/cant. Well, I know some will disagree with me on this, but I took a non Turbo 92 and made it turbo for about $700, including a used stock turbo and used stock parts. I want to upgrade to a big Dynacharger, but that'll run me about $1600 for the turbo itself, but the plus being the turbo itself has it's own computer. :)

LaFemmeDSM
03-09-2001, 10:00 AM
TMO only does mods to turbo and 1g non turbo ECU's. The ECU in the 2g non turbo is different.

JD 95 GS n/t
03-09-2001, 02:27 PM
[B]JD- sorry have to raise a BS flag on this and I quote.
"and yes it help alot I got 10 to 14hp
I have a A420 stock 141 I`m up to 195 + 150shot of N.O.S.
tested with NOS at the wheels 226hp"

You only got 40 hp out of that 150 shot? Even to the wheels it HAS to be more than that! (226 hp to wheels - 195 hp before NOS.)
What do you run in the 1/4? (timeslips?)
The 10-14 hp gain is what is advertised by Jet, it is pretty funny you use the same "10-14 hp" gain saying.
Anyway if you have actual results based on a stock car adding a Jet ECU I'd love to see them, otherwise your the only one looking like an idio

As you know, you lose 32%of your power from your engine to your wheels
yes my engine is puting out over 340hp
but at the wheels it`s about 226
but you know that right????
stock you car has 141. but at the wheels you have????
141 * .32 =45.12 45.12 - 141 = 95.88 at the wheels
but i`m the idio right????

dsm93talon
03-09-2001, 02:51 PM
Ok, BS or no BS, there is no call to be arguing like this.

Who should we contact if we want to upgrade our ECU??
and is there anyone that did it? what what the difference? Because it has crossed my mind but i am looking for more info on it.

I think that was the original question..... No one asked which one was better, only what the differences were.

no one's an idiot and I can see this turning into an all out war when in fact, Who gives a rip about which ECU works better than others. We chose what we chose for our cars for our own reasons.

Personally I think that ANY ECU upgrade or aftermarket ECU is crap on ANY DSM. In my opinion, The ECU is not where the power is, anyways, for 2/3 of the money you'd spend on an upgraded ECU you can get an AFC and tune your engine as well as advancing your timing which will net you more gains than an ECU can. All an upgraded ECU will do is change your fuel maps and injector duty cycles to make them more efficient at making power, something you can do on an AFC for $250 these days.

I'm not taking sides, just stating MY opinion :)I get a say too:). I just don't want this thread to turn into an all out fight... which is where it was leading (in reference to the cockiness and prelude to name calling)

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