RAM AIR!

[roadpie4u]

I have a 1g Talon 2.0Non Turbo. I know the MAS is picky about the air coming in, and if it's too turbulant, it will screw up. I do not (yet) have a turbo kit in, however, firstly I am intending to get a lot of air in and put in Knock sensors/ and an A/F guage. So I am interesting in doing a Ram Air Mod. I have a tranny cooler where they put the stock ones, and have otherwise a stock 92' 2.0NT. Anyone tried to do Ram Air? I was thinking of setting up 2 3" pipes in each of the front 2 corner vents, and running them along the bottom behind the radiator, and then merging them into the current MAF and getting a Really good filter. Also in the 2 pipes, each would point straight foreward with a wire mesh covering it - and behind that, looked at getting 12V 15amp 3" aliminum industrial cooling fans - each will run about $90 and give about 8000Rpm. Then connect them to a switch in the dash. That wont provide as much as a turbo, but till then, should be plenty of fun. Any suggestions? Comments? Feedback? When I get this done - if it works well, I'll post a web page with full instructions, but the few I've talked to like it so far. Reply!

[dsm93talon]

don't do the fans :) they'll restrict like a mofo, you'd have to have them running like 70,000 rpm just to get 1psi and that might not even be enough. But the tubing idea I like! that should work very nicely. Just last week I ran dryer ducting from my front end to the mas sensor and plopped a k&N on the front of it (basically i put the k&n in the fenderwell and ran a hose to the mas) and i took it for a spin, I have a Boost gauge installed (for the project est) and from 40 mph on the vacuum was alot lower than normal :) never hit 1psi but it stayed very close to zero vacuum after 50-60mph. do it man! it's gonna kick ass. you'll feel better throttle response in the top end as well.

[roadpie4u]

Yeah, I thought they might not do much. Just got a dual gauge pillar too, goin for an A/F guage, and a boost gauge to estimate the intake pressure, for estimates, till I get the real turbo in. I am debating whether or not to hack the MAF sensor, but if I do or do not, I know the stock ECU wants like a 14:1 air:fuel ratio, and it'd be good to lean it out a little, any ideas what ratio i should go for? Also I dont have the gauges yet, but I'd hope to get ones that match the stock gauges, dont need lights, I can get em to light up, but I like the dark grey back with the orange needle. Any Ideas on that one?

[BigTone]

hey DSM93, how did you get your K&N to attach to your tubing? i have a K&N attached to a polished aluminum intake from weapon-r right now and i think i want to setup a ram-air system. im gonna do NOS instead of a turbo kit just because of the pricing. i have the same car as you (93 talon es)and i love it. i was going to try and place some dryer ducting over the K&N and run it to the front grill. problem ive found is the radiator is in the way. any suggestions?

thanks

Tony

[dsm93talon]

when it was in the car here's what it looked like. (I took it off because I started my project and there's an intercooler there now :))

Bigtone, you can also cut the upper IC hole to 4" and you can run some ducting through there, take out the resonator if you havent already and run it to the hole in the front ari dam.

I'd do NOS but it scares the living shit outta me :) i know more about turbosystems. No one makes a turbo kit for our 1G NTs at all so I'm just fabricating one ;) haha, actually it's a complete conversion to a FWD Turbo so oh well.

Here is a pic of the setup i tried, well, a paint drawing (no digital camera :() hope it helps

http://a1060.g.akamai.net/f/1060/597/30minutes/www.zing.com/picture/p184cf58a132e20e32e868e399b64ba05/fec2cb5d.jpg