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I stated this in my first post, I know it would be chaper power wise to but an already turbo'd dsm. Thing of it is, out of the hand full of people in my area that have or have had a turbo dsm, they have nothing but problems even when the work is done right. Don't get me wrong, if I had the money to maintain and buy a turbo dsm, I would, but right now a non-turbo on nitrous is more economical for me.
They are reliable if you take care of them, most people don't. Plus how reliable do you think that 420a will be once its turbo'd on a motor that wasn't meant for it or run nos through it?
how reliable do you think that 420a will be once its turbo'd on a motor that wasn't meant for it or run nos through it?
This is what sucks about the car, a lot of times it almost seems like luck, some peoples motors blow within a week with only a few pounds of boost, others have survived more than they should have.
I made a couple pulls in my car that could have done some damage. When I first installed the kit, the fuel pump I had wasn't big enough and well I made a few pulls testing everything out and fortunately caught it. Then another time I was trying to adjust my former POS wastegate and spiked 12psi on a pull on stock fuel injectors and bottom end. The injectors were already maxed at 8psi. Plus my compression isn't the greatest, but it's held up for over a year, and knock on wood it will hopefully remain that way until at least june.
Then there's the guy who ran 16psi daily on a stock bottom end. It was also tuned to perfection and I believe ran on 100 octane.
Honestly I think no matter which way you go, turbo or nitrous, you really should be looking into beefing up the internals of your engine.
Ya if u just bolt up a turbo or get n2o without any supportin mods ur gonna end up having more problems than the already turbo dsms. If you need somethign reliable then keep the 420a stock maybe get an exhaust and intake. I seriously reschedualed my entire day, such as which train i take to school etc., incase the new dsm (which i dont have yet lol) does break down on me. Instead of driving 70+ miles a day i now need to drve 1.5 miles to train and 1.5 miles other way to work (lol so i can walk if i have t ). If you want a fast car be ready for ploblems, have a backup plan for when its down-lol which i hope it doesnt have too many problems cuz i hate walking!!!
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Buying a turbo kit for a 420a is retarded, you can peice it together for less than half the price, and get better parts, haun does not put much engineering into their kits, and charges way too much for their stuff. Plus they run the FMU system which makes fuel pressure go up 12:1.
another idea would be sell that car and dont buy the engine, and go for a good gst if you want a fwd car. honestly those motors are notorious for blowing up, major mechanical problems and downright maintainence. I had a 96 gs, went through a motor withing the first week of owning, sold it, cut my loses and bough a gst. I have had for over a year and a half and i absolutly love it, best money i ever spent. Trust me, 420a has nothing of what straight from factory HP you can get then with the 4g63. Just think it over.
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1996 Eclipse GS-T, Big 16g, Greddy IC Type S BOV, all hard pipe, Greddy Exhaust, no cat, K&N intake, stock fuel system, putting down 230 hp and 250 tq to the wheels at 18 psi..... more to be added soon..
another idea would be sell that car and dont buy the engine, and go for a good gst if you want a fwd car. honestly those motors are notorious for blowing up, major mechanical problems and downright maintainence. I had a 96 gs, went through a motor withing the first week of owning, sold it, cut my loses and bough a gst. I have had for over a year and a half and i absolutly love it, best money i ever spent. Trust me, 420a has nothing of what straight from factory HP you can get then with the 4g63. Just think it over.
Once again I think it was just the owner, when I first got my rs within a month the timing belt broke, it bent the valves. The alt belt snapped, needed a new battery and passenger side axle. waterpump. But it has been two years about now and never had any problems. Plus 30+mpg=teh shit.
Exact same situiation with the 4g63 everyone talks shit on it because they don't know how to maintain it, and they don't tune it correctly, or run too much boost with not enough fuel, and mess stuff up. My 4g63's are very reliable, i have the hood open hardly ever.
He's also said many times he would not recommend it and that he was ready in case it did break.
The fact is the rods have been used at 12-13 psi by others in the past, but people usually just swap them out when they change the pistons too. He appears to be the first person to actually put in real fuel management on a stock bottom end and it worked for him.
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). If you want a fast car be ready for ploblems, have a backup plan for when its down-lol which i hope it doesnt have too many problems cuz i hate walking!!!
if thats true that amazing
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