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Old 02-01-2007, 11:03 PM   #1
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CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Ive searched yahoo, google, dsmsource and other webistes to no avail. Maybe you guys could help me out.

I'll have some pictures up in a few minutes.

The intake/exhaust cams have 5 markings total. Closest to the cam gear are C2 and D2 then in the middle of the cam is E11 finally towards the CAS end of the camshaft it has cwc on one side and ep4606 on the other side.

Exhaust cam is identical except for the 1st marking is C1 D1 instead of d2/c2.

Anyone have any ideas? I put the part number ep4606 into the crower and comp website with no results.

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Old 02-01-2007, 11:27 PM   #2
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

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Old 02-01-2007, 11:51 PM   #3
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Here's what I found by googling...

http://www.dsmtuners.com/forums/show...php?p=50347949
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:14 AM   #4
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

tooners isn't working..I saw that link but it seems tuners is down. What does it say?
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:25 AM   #5
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Here's the cached version until toonerz comes back up...

http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache...efox-a&strip=1
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:25 AM   #6
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Alrite..its finally working, but it doesn't seem to help much. They could either be Web's or Comp cams from what Ive seen so far. The Web's are usally marked 'web' these aren't. Other than that I can't really say for sure.

What should I do?

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Old 02-02-2007, 12:29 AM   #7
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Did you click the link that Defiant posted in that thread? I can't see what it says since Toonerz still isn't working for me but he refers to it twice.
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Old 02-02-2007, 12:49 AM   #8
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Yea I clicked the link, that stuff relates to stock camshafts
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Old 02-03-2007, 12:38 AM   #9
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Anyone?

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Old 02-08-2007, 12:31 PM   #10
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Im sure someone must know what cams these are??

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Old 02-08-2007, 01:02 PM   #11
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

I believe that these are Crower (not BC) cams. The 280 versions. There is actually a set on ebay right now, and they have the EP4604 markings on them as well. Check them out, and email the guy to see if you can get some more pics of the other markings as well.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Eclip...spagenameZWDVW

Hope this helps. And if they are the Crowers, then you have a VERY nice set of cams there.
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Old 02-08-2007, 01:20 PM   #12
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

I could let you know if they are the same as my Crower 64414's but I would have to pull the valve cover yet again. I will check if nobody comes up with an answer here in the next few days but it is cold as hell here right now even with my forced air heater going.
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Old 02-08-2007, 10:25 PM   #13
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

alright, thanks VERY much for the help guys, both of you, RippinGSX and projecTSI. I appreciate you even taking the trouble to take your valvecover off..but I don't think it will be necessary!

Here is some general information I found..

the smallest crower cams (64412) have good idle, power 2500-7000
the mid cams (64413) have lopey idle great power 4000-7500rpm
the 64414 are rough idle and best power 4500-8500

the crower 64412 are comparable to the HKS264

the crower 64413 are comparable to the HKS272

Im pretty sure that these are Crower cams now. VERY sure. I believe mine are the 413 Stage 2's, my cousin always used to say stage 2.

What can I do to verify that these are 4412's or 4413's? I would like to mention that I have an electronic micrometer..

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Old 02-08-2007, 10:39 PM   #14
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

Duration @ .050" Gross Lift w/1.7
188 Lobe 188 .391" inch .372"
204 Valve 204 9.93 mm 9.45

Those are specs for the 64412. I don't know what they mean.

Here are specs for the 64413.

195 Lobe 196 .393" inch .379"
211 Valve 221 9.98 mm 9.63

As stated before, I do have a digital micrometer.. is there anything I can do? Thanks

LInk:
http://www.crower.com/cat/import/mit...amshafts.shtml

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Old 02-17-2007, 09:32 PM   #15
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Re: CWC EP4604 what kind of camshafts are these?

did you ever figure out if they where 4413 or 4412s?
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