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Old 04-26-2007, 01:30 AM   #1
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1st gear pops out....

my tranny is starting to pop out of gear (only in 1st) when you are on a dead stop ready to go, it does this occasionally, any info would be great...
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Old 04-26-2007, 01:37 AM   #2
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

try adjusting the cables, if that doesn't work look for obstructions around the linkage. If still nothing than you have a bad bearing on the end of the intermediate shaft or a bad slider/dogs
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Old 04-26-2007, 07:57 AM   #3
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

I have also heard of worn/old poppet balls and springs no longer holding the shifter into gear. Easy thing to check out. After the cables and linkages of course.
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:41 PM   #4
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

thanks, will check out the cables and adjust the linkage at the shifter and see how things are....

my c/master is not leaking, slave still looks good...
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Old 04-26-2007, 09:48 PM   #5
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I have also heard of worn/old poppet balls and springs no longer holding the shifter into gear. Easy thing to check out. After the cables and linkages of course.
can you clarify where i can check this, thanks
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Old 04-27-2007, 12:11 AM   #6
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

that doesn't hold it in gear persay.
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:05 AM   #7
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

Mine will pop out of first if I am going along slowly. For example, if a light is about to turn green and I do not want to come to a full stop. If I apply constant pressure to the shifter it still try but goes right back without being able to pop out. I figured my syncros are/getting worn out. Could a misadjusted cable cause that?
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Old 04-27-2007, 06:12 PM   #8
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

syncro's have nothing to do with holding the gear in. at all, don't think they do because they don't, it is just a brake to slow down the gear for a smoothe shift
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Old 04-27-2007, 09:16 PM   #9
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

Can you shift fast into 2nd? I've had that happen on 2 different trannys. i suspect broken/bent shift fork.
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Old 04-27-2007, 10:58 PM   #10
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

Had the same problem with my 95AWD. It ended up being a bad end bearing on the imtermediate shaft so i just replaced them both.
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Old 04-27-2007, 11:04 PM   #11
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

My GST does this every now and then but I think it may be due to having a short-shifter and me just being to lazy to make sure its in all the way before moving...
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Old 04-28-2007, 01:35 PM   #12
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

adjusted the shifter cables, the c/ master cylinder rod is almost coming out of the pedal(all the way to the end) bled properly, pump 10 times and hold, slave bleeds open then closed before release of pedal and repeat several times...

thinking about getting the extended slave rod..... new master.... and new slave.... before i pull the tranny to check the fork if it is bent.

for now it is also starting to grind when i put it in first gear and occasional
2nd gear, btw it also has very low engagement, about half to an inch off the floor...
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Old 04-28-2007, 02:56 PM   #13
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

I would try to solve that engagment problem first and then tackle any issues that remain. It sounds like you have all of your bases covered for getting the engagement back off the floor. That is as long as your fork isnt bent. Remember to check your pedal assembly for play as well.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:53 PM   #14
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Re: 1st gear pops out....

if it won't stay in gear it has nothing to do with master adjustment or a bent clutch fork, that would just have to do with enguagement. This problem is more than likely internal inside the tranny.
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Old 04-28-2007, 03:59 PM   #15
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if it won't stay in gear it has nothing to do with master adjustment or a bent clutch fork, that would just have to do with enguagement. This problem is more than likely internal inside the tranny.
I agree that it most likely a transmission related problem. However with the amount of issues he has going on it will be easier to elimnate them one at a time. Otherwise its like trying to hit a moving target. The engagement issue is much easier to address first, thereby isolating his transmission problems.
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