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Old 01-02-2008, 04:37 PM   #1
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Oil pan leaky

When we rebuilt my 1g engine I was not really the most knowlegable about dsm's but I do remember asking my build partner if we should use the oil pan gasket I bought and he replied no we never do we always use rtv so return it. I said are you sure I got it but he insisted so as a good padawon would do I left it alone. Now with the car running and numerous hours spent looking for a pretty annoying leak thats staining the shit out of my garage I 'm sure it's the pan. So was I right we should've used the gasket or is this a fluke and it's just bad luck.
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Old 01-02-2008, 05:38 PM   #2
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Re: Oil pan leaky

There is no oil pan gasket. Use Hi Temp RTV. Solid consistent continuous bead inside the ridge and bolt holes. Let it sit for 24 hrs to cure, than do whatever you please.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:30 PM   #3
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Re: Oil pan leaky

Ok I'm pretty sure we didn't let the rtv cure for 24 hours and the parts store did sell me a oil pan gasket so they probably sold me something wrong. So here's my next question I have the 2g tranny bolted up to it and the transfer case is in the way of the pan bolts so I'm guessing I need to take out the axles first then the transfer case? I'm capable of turning a wrench and I've got the book but just to be safe do I need to know anything before doing that, if that's even correct. And is there an aftermarket pan that's better since i'm already taking it apart and how much, if you know. Thanks for the info.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:33 PM   #4
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Re: Oil pan leaky

moroso , makes a bad-ass pan for all 4g63 motors , kinda pricey but it has great baffles , and a side kick out so it holds like 6.5qts.
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Old 01-02-2008, 09:36 PM   #5
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moroso , makes a bad-ass pan for all 4g63 motors , kinda pricey but it has great baffles , and a side kick out so it holds like 6.5qts.

I have never personally used one but I have read somewhere that there was fitment issues with their design.
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Old 01-03-2008, 07:12 AM   #6
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Re: Oil pan leaky

So can anyone answer my questions fully?
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:00 AM   #7
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Re: Oil pan leaky

It was originally not designed to use a gasket. Since you didn't let it fully cure I wouldn't consider it a fluke, just a faulty install. Pull the pan again and use an RTV designed for high temp and oil stable use, then let it fully cure before use.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:08 AM   #8
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It was originally not designed to use a gasket. Since you didn't let it fully cure I wouldn't consider it a fluke, just a faulty install. Pull the pan again and use an RTV designed for high temp and oil stable use, then let it fully cure before use.

But make sure that when you remove it, you use a razor blade and really clean off the old crap and smooth the edges out before reinstalling it.
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:24 AM   #9
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Re: Oil pan leaky

Ok I got that part but the axles and transfer case that's coming out before right and if so is there any things I should know before simply removing these parts. thanks
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Re: Oil pan leaky

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moroso , makes a bad-ass pan for all 4g63 motors , kinda pricey but it has great baffles , and a side kick out so it holds like 6.5qts.
It only fits 1Gs, not 2Gs.

To replace the oil pan you must remove the oil return line from the turbo, the downpipe and transfer case. There is no need to be removing any of the axles or any of that.
Remove the pan. Clean off the pan and the block. Apply a good consistent bead.
I usually wait a few minutes before I slap the pan back on the car. Slap the pan back on the car carefully, don't let it move side to side, it needs to go straight up.
Put the bolts back in criss-cross pattern, do not tigthen them down too much. Just a bit to where you see some RTV push out a bit. Wait a few hours. Take an 8mm socket, put it onto a screw driver and hand tigthen it, don't use a ratchet, the oil pan bolts need barely 10-15lbs of torque on them, hand tigthen is enough.
Wait 24 hrs, put everything back, don't forget the oil. Start the car let it warm up, look for leaks.
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Good enough thanks. Go smash into guardrail.
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I have never personally used one but I have read somewhere that there was fitment issues with their design.
I have one and it is bad ass as far as how much oil it holds and how cool it helps to keep the oil. Anyway, there were some slight fitment issues when installing the pan. I don't know what the AMS had to do to put it in. I didn't do this myself I was kind of chicken a few years back. But they said it's nothing crazy.
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Old 01-05-2008, 01:53 PM   #13
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Re: Oil pan leaky

The bottom of the pan needs to be clearanced for the oil pickup, it sits too close and causes starvation issues. At least the earlier design, Moroso also no longer exists.
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Re: Oil pan leaky

Doublejay,

If you want a suggestion on a good RTV I can give it to you along with a picture of the tube it came in. I got this stuff from Autozone and it took me nearly a hour to get the damned oil pan off my car. The stuff worked wonders!
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Old 01-11-2008, 07:30 PM   #15
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