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Old 03-29-2008, 10:42 AM   #1
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Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

It is relatively modded, though I'm not exactly sure what all has been done. I know it's not the stock turbo, intake or BOV, and it's got a FMIC. The BOV is recirculated properly btw. It's relatively clean, minus the fact that it has altezzas(don't tell anyone) that I would swap as soon as I could.

Problem, when I took it out on the highway, I was cruising at 70 in fifth gear, then when I decided I'd push it a little bit, and as I approached 80, it just cut out, I tried several times with the same result. The rpm's would drop, then spool up and try again, only to have the same thing happen again. My father and I theorize that the clutch is slipping. The guy that runs the dealership said he doesn't know much about this kind of car as he's more of a muscle car guy, but he thought he noticed the same thing.

It supposedly has a brand new clutch in it, but is it possible that it's simply got too much power for a stock clutch to handle? The car has 94k miles on it btw.

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Old 03-29-2008, 10:49 AM   #2
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

Was it just like hitting the rev limiter? Sounds like a boost leak or maybe even fuel cut. A list of the mods would definately help.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:56 AM   #3
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

It wasn't reving very hard really, between 3500 and 4000. Unfortunately I won't likely be able to get a list of mods until tomorrow or Monday, I'm not sure if the shop is even open on Sunday. I don't think the guy that runs the shop honestly knows what all has been done to it, so I'll just have to poke around and hope I can figure it out...

I can also try to check for boost leak. Monday however I am going to try taking it to the mechanic that's worked on mine and my father's Camaro's for years so he can go over it at his shop. Either way though any ideas of what it might be will help. I appreciate your response.
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Old 03-29-2008, 10:59 AM   #4
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

How much is the guy asking for it? Aside from the altezzas and the crooked ass front mount, it doesnt look bad.
But we need a little more info on the clutch. Is it getting up to 80 and then free revving, or does it get there and then just die or bog down?
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:04 AM   #5
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

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Was it just like hitting the rev limiter? Sounds like a boost leak or maybe even fuel cut. A list of the mods would definately help.

I second that. Looks like the car is a little rough to me. Maybe there isn't supporting mods for the turbo on it?
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:10 AM   #6
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

He's asking 6500 right now but I think he'll drop a bit if I'm having to do anything to the clutch.

The car drives fine until you give it substantial amount of boost. I wasn't getting anywhere close to redlining as I was shifting towards fifth, then I just cruised for a bit.

The best way I can describe it is free revving. It was like when the boost spooled up to a certain point we would just lose forward momentum and the engine would still be revving but independent of the throttle until the boost let down again, then it would catch and start accelerating, and repeat. Afterwards the car would still run fine as long as it didn't hit that point.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:12 AM   #7
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

Definatley sounds like the clutch then.
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:17 AM   #8
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

Any recommendations, as I'd like to not put a stock clutch in it if I'm at it anyway. I saw a couple on JNZ Tuning, the Exedy Organic, and Exedy Cerametallic. I'm on a bit of a budget right now as I have to buy the car also. Will I need to replace the flywheel also?
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Old 03-29-2008, 11:36 AM   #9
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

If it was the clutch then the rpms would go up as you pushed harder, not go down. Maybe I miss understood what your wrote? I know when I got my new clutch it slipped because it was not adjusted correctly, when I would push on it after it was warmed up it would slip and the rpms would go up but the car wouldnt go anywhere.

Sorry, I read the first post only. The last one makes more sense and seems like it would be the clutch. And it may just be an adjustment problem, especially if it is a new clutch which would be the best case scenario.
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

Yep, definately clutch issues.
Either its an old worn out clutch, its out of adjustment, or the motor is putting out too much power for that clutch.
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Old 03-29-2008, 12:23 PM   #11
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

I just talked to the guy that is selling it, and he is taking it back to the guy who replaced the clutch Monday morning to have him make sure it's right. He's betting it's an issue with it being out of adjustment, and I feel that it's either out of adjustment or there is too much power. We're guessing the car is pushing 300 horses, so that is a potential problem. I intend to put a moderate performance clutch in it anyway, so I just need to figure out what kind to get.

I greatly appreciate all the quick responses by the way.

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Old 03-29-2008, 01:58 PM   #12
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

300 horses? I'm no genius but I'm pretty sure that's a T-25 in there. It looks like you got an Injen intake, Dejon UICP, Greddy LICP, Greddy FMIC and Type-S BOV. Oh and I see an AFPR..

What was the car boosting at? Also you gotta check for boost leaks. I've had leaks where it'd boost fine @5psi but then open up @15psi. Check all the couplings first and build a tester. You'll need it later on if you get the car haha.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:16 PM   #13
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

When my stock clutch first started going out it would also just let go at high RPM's, or at high speed accelerating. Then my wife drove it and it was smoking like crazy. She pushed it over the edge and it died a very very hot death. Even with all that I kept my stock flywheel, and it was in good condition. Most of the time if it is bad it can be resurfaced fairly cheap.
Hopefully the clutch will be fine, but if not I really like my "SouthBend" clutch.
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Old 03-29-2008, 07:30 PM   #14
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

I'm hoping the clutch issue gets settled early this week. I am going to try to get a full list of mods from the previous owner if possible, just so I'm not as in the dark about what I'm dealing with.

I'm kind of looking at the Fidanza 4.3 or an ACT2600 or 2900, though I don't know much about those two.
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Old 03-30-2008, 01:20 AM   #15
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Re: Test drove a 98 GS-T, have a question about clutch.

Yeah I was looking at the same 3. They are all good, depending on what you want to do. Don't count out Southbend though. Good product good price.
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