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Yes you can flow more. The 2g maf outflows around 2800hz (IIRC) and the evo maf flows 30%, I think up to 3200hz.
Just get it and get the plug, wire it in and if you have dsmlink you have to change all the airflow sliders. There is a writeup on the dsmlink wiki. We did it on my friends car and changed the airflow sliders and it runs great. Fixed his stalling issues too, somehow.
Yes you can flow more. The 2g maf outflows around 2800hz (IIRC) and the evo maf flows 30%, I think up to 3200hz.
Just get it and get the plug, wire it in and if you have dsmlink you have to change all the airflow sliders. There is a writeup on the dsmlink wiki. We did it on my friends car and changed the airflow sliders and it runs great. Fixed his stalling issues too, somehow.
Oh wow... Didn't know that with the 2G maf. I have recorded a little over 2800Hz on the SAFC2 but just a little over, like 2820Hz. I don't have DSMlink so right there may pose a problem with the conversion.
What happens after the limit of the maf and the turbo is flowing more?
__________________ Tarantula E85 blend Powered @28psi 1998 Talon TSi AWD--TRE w/4spider diff and Evo 3 gears--SAFC2--Pocketlogger--Innovate LC-1 Wideband--Walbro255Hp--FTS AFPR--Vertical flow FMIC--4" FP Intake--1G 60mm TB--Synchronic Bov--Evo Ex Manifold--FP3052 w/3" FP Recirc O2--Tial 44mm WG--3" Vband Turbo Back w/Magnaflow--1050cc FIC--HKS 272's--E85/91 Gas Mix 11.82 @119mph @24psi 0-60 3.5 sec Full Weight 3400lbs
The maf will start to "mis-count" the air, it may go from 2850hz to 2000hz and back to 2700hz in a split second. It may or may not be noticable as I've never run a 2g mas to its limit but I have a few 1g's. Generally the car just starts breaking up at its peak power and the a/f goes all over the place.
Since these are in Hz, you'll have to figure out what RPM to make the changes. Start with around 30% on the lower few RPM points, 25% in the mid, and 20% up top and fine tine from there. Or just get V3 in a week.
The maf will start to "mis-count" the air, it may go from 2850hz to 2000hz and back to 2700hz in a split second. It may or may not be noticable as I've never run a 2g mas to its limit but I have a few 1g's. Generally the car just starts breaking up at its peak power and the a/f goes all over the place.
Ok... I'm going to try and graph the Karman Hz to see if I see it break up. Its feeling a little wierd up top when I raised the boost a little. And I get a little knock even though I richen the mixture.
If I see this breakup than I guess I'm going with a 482 or a 501 and DSMLink. Wonder why its not all over the forums.
__________________ Tarantula E85 blend Powered @28psi 1998 Talon TSi AWD--TRE w/4spider diff and Evo 3 gears--SAFC2--Pocketlogger--Innovate LC-1 Wideband--Walbro255Hp--FTS AFPR--Vertical flow FMIC--4" FP Intake--1G 60mm TB--Synchronic Bov--Evo Ex Manifold--FP3052 w/3" FP Recirc O2--Tial 44mm WG--3" Vband Turbo Back w/Magnaflow--1050cc FIC--HKS 272's--E85/91 Gas Mix 11.82 @119mph @24psi 0-60 3.5 sec Full Weight 3400lbs
And I get a little knock even though I richen the mixture.
Could it be because gas stations are using the "winter blend" of E78 (or something like that) now rather than E85? You may be running lower octane than you were before. It has something to do with E85 being hard to start in the winter... just a thought...
Could it be because gas stations are using the "winter blend" of E78 (or something like that) now rather than E85? You may be running lower octane than you were before. It has something to do with E85 being hard to start in the winter... just a thought...
No California does not have that problem. Its summer year round here I was outside with shorts and a t shirt and still sweating today!
__________________ Tarantula E85 blend Powered @28psi 1998 Talon TSi AWD--TRE w/4spider diff and Evo 3 gears--SAFC2--Pocketlogger--Innovate LC-1 Wideband--Walbro255Hp--FTS AFPR--Vertical flow FMIC--4" FP Intake--1G 60mm TB--Synchronic Bov--Evo Ex Manifold--FP3052 w/3" FP Recirc O2--Tial 44mm WG--3" Vband Turbo Back w/Magnaflow--1050cc FIC--HKS 272's--E85/91 Gas Mix 11.82 @119mph @24psi 0-60 3.5 sec Full Weight 3400lbs
No California does not have that problem. Its summer year round here I was outside with shorts and a t shirt and still sweating today!
Jealousy... I want to ride my bike sooo badly today...
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They just get it, think its fast compared to the nothing they drove before, their brain shrinks and they decide they must "mod it" because it's an "eclipse" yo... insert APC, remove inhibitions... kind of thing. Or the aliens battling good taste and common sense hide in the glove box and suck your brain out the second you buy one. One or the other.
Also if you get DSMLink you can simply use Fake Maf once you start missing counts, no need to upgrade MAF's...
DSMLink is one of my next upgrades. I will still check the Karman signal graph to see if I get a break up. Maybe it was a fluke but alot of people (in my research) have stated mas over run after 2700Hz. I refiled with a fresh tank of E85 mix so I'll do a couple pulls to see what happens.
At least I know that there is another option other than the GM maf and now I know of the option in link.
Fake maf option uses boost as an input?
__________________ Tarantula E85 blend Powered @28psi 1998 Talon TSi AWD--TRE w/4spider diff and Evo 3 gears--SAFC2--Pocketlogger--Innovate LC-1 Wideband--Walbro255Hp--FTS AFPR--Vertical flow FMIC--4" FP Intake--1G 60mm TB--Synchronic Bov--Evo Ex Manifold--FP3052 w/3" FP Recirc O2--Tial 44mm WG--3" Vband Turbo Back w/Magnaflow--1050cc FIC--HKS 272's--E85/91 Gas Mix 11.82 @119mph @24psi 0-60 3.5 sec Full Weight 3400lbs
Evo maf runs great. I know a guy running 1150's with just a evo maf, safc and e85. Usually the safc could not handle them but the evo maf leans the car way out so it was fine. Very cheap way to through some large injectors with control to swap over to e85.
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Evo 3G mafs. Are they an upgrade over 2G?
I was outside with shorts and a t shirt and still sweating today!
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