largest TD05 turbo? hybrid?

[THOR'SVR4]

whats the largest td05 turbo? or one that flows the most? the largest td05 MHI turbo i believe is the 18G, but Ive seen TD04 18G's and even TD04's that dramatically outflow the 18G turbos.
Ive heard of some TD05 20G hybrids, but is there anything even bigger?
im asking for two reasons
1) im going to be running TD05's on my 3000GT. evo 3's are good for around 550 AWHP give or take 50. but if im building the motor with a forged 3.0-3.5L than i might as well go big.... and no this isn't really a daily driver. its just a project car that Ive only put ~1 mile on in almost 3 years
2) i really like how dirt cheep it is to mod a dsm. turbos are half the price (duh only 1 turbo), cams are cheaper, exhaust ect. its just awesome how far the buck goes on a dsm. so im kinda tempted to trade my VR4 for a DSM.

[4g63tcrazy]

Trade it. For your turbo question. I couldn't tell you. Haha

[cAPSlOCK97gst]

Is there a reason you HAVE to use a TD05 compressor housing?

[The_EE]

Originally Posted by THOR'SVR4

whats the largest td05 turbo? or one that flows the most? the largest td05 MHI turbo i believe is the 18G, but Ive seen TD04 18G's and even TD04's that dramatically outflow the 18G turbos.
Ive heard of some TD05 20G hybrids, but is there anything even bigger?
im asking for two reasons
1) im going to be running TD05's on my 3000GT. evo 3's are good for around 550 AWHP give or take 50. but if im building the motor with a forged 3.0-3.5L than i might as well go big.... and no this isn't really a daily driver. its just a project car that Ive only put ~1 mile on in almost 3 years
2) i really like how dirt cheep it is to mod a dsm. turbos are half the price (duh only 1 turbo), cams are cheaper, exhaust ect. its just awesome how far the buck goes on a dsm. so im kinda tempted to trade my VR4 for a DSM.

I am sure there is a way to switch over to a single larger turbo. Supras do it, I am sure you can as well. I would personally suggest it.

[K_Mans_TSI]

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[93_GSX]

I've seen exhaust mani's that utilize a single turbo on a 3kGT

[THOR'SVR4]

Originally Posted by cAPSlOCK97gst

Is there a reason you HAVE to use a TD05 compressor housing?

I can’t go single turbo on the 3000 because of price. $8250 for a single turbo kit. Plus the times of the single turbo cars just aren’t on par with the twin turbo 3000’s. The fastest single I have seen is in the lower 10’s, but don’t quote me on that since I may be slightly off. Also I doubt I would have the fastest single turbo 3000 so I’m willing to bet I would probably be in the high 10’s low 11’s, which isn’t worth over $8,000.

The reason I don’t go to the TD06 turbo is TD06 cars seam slower than most TD05 cars. PitroadM’s twin 20G is an 11.3 sec car while TD05 evo 3’s have done 10.3XX. Since TD05’s are a ‘tried and true’ turbo upgrade I think I’ll stay in the TD05 range, but I want to be at the upper end of that range.

also if I trade my vr4/buy a dsm it would become my new daily driver, and I couldn’t afford to have it sit with the hood up for an extended period of time while I build it up. So I would stay with a ‘bolt on’ turbo for simplicity.

EDIT: NO, I don’t have to stay with a TD05 compressor housing, but I defiantly need the TD05 EXHAUST housing. Whether it’s a non MHI/hybrid turbo or not I don’t care. I’m currently using a td04 MHI/subi hybrid right now and love it.

[QWKLIL4]

A twin 20G car should def. go faster than a twin E16G car, simply because the 20G comp. wheel flows more air. If you get the TD05H 20G, which is considered a hybrid, it uses the exact same turbine wheel/housing as the E16G does, but with the larger TD06 comp housing.

Personally, I'd stick with the Evo III 16G's. Unless you gotta have cutting edge technology and got about $1800 burning a hole in your wallet, then call up Forced Performance and ask them about their HTA68 turbo. Basically an evo3 16G, with a slightly better compressor wheel. There is a guy out in WA, Lucas English (English Racing) that has gone 10.50's on one of these turbos. They def. make power.

[Talon_Fan]

I have a question. You have a 3000gt and why are you on a DSM forum? 3000gt's are not a DSM. You know there is a forum for stealths and 3000gt's right? I'm not trying to come off as an ass, but I'm just curious and I dont know why some people think 3/s's are DSM's. (Not assumuating that you dont know.)

For your question. The 20g with a tdo5 comp. is one of the biggest for that housing, but I would go with a td06 20g!

[15psi88]

He is asking about dsm specific turbos. Valid reason I'd say.

[THOR'SVR4]

Originally Posted by Talon_Fan

I have a question. You have a 3000gt and why are you on a DSM forum? 3000gt's are not a DSM. You know there is a forum for stealths and 3000gt's right? I'm not trying to come off as an ass, but I'm just curious and I dont know why some people think 3/s's are DSM's. (Not assumuating that you dont know.)

For your question. The 20g with a tdo5 comp. is one of the biggest for that housing, but I would go with a td06 20g!

lol yea I know a 3000GT/stealth isn't a DSM. i figured i would ask this question here though because DSMers seam to have MUCH more knowledge of the TD05 turbos than most 3S (3000gt/stealth) owners. i am a member of 3si.org which is a 3S forum. But after getting an offer to trade my VR4 for a GSX i made up this account and logged in to check out what DSM's are capable of. i think my vr4 is a mid 11 sec car but i haven't physically taken her to the track, or gotten a professional dyno tune after the upgraded fuel/turbo setup so i cant say for sure what its running but i wanted to see how hard/much $ is required to get a dsm to run about the same time.

the car i was offered is pretty riced out though so i would actually have to pay to bring her back to a stock body, and it would hurt to see my baby (3000gt) get a body kit slapped on it like this kid wants to do.

[GPTourer]

I do not think you will do better then twin EVO3's if you are dead set on TD05Hs, its the best turbo in that housing. I think a 20G wheel only shines when it is a full TD06. Plus, they are relatively cheap, the EIIIs are, and the difference you would have to pay to get 20G's won't give you that big a boost in performance.

However, FP makes a decent 18G that some people here have had good luck with and it isn't much more expensive. Might look into those.

[THOR'SVR4]

ok so it seams that the evo3, td05 18G and td05 20G are about as good as the td05's are going to get.

ill keep comparing those three before i run out and buy a pair but thanks for the responses and suggestions.

[donniekak]

I ran 11's on two 13g's and e-85 in my 3s. The reason i switched to dsm's was that 1 16g on a dsm has gone faster than 2 on a 3s. I love them they are sweet cars, but just to damn heavy.

[THOR'SVR4]

Originally Posted by donniekak

I ran 11's on two 13g's and e-85 in my 3s. The reason i switched to dsm's was that 1 16g on a dsm has gone faster than 2 on a 3s. I love them they are sweet cars, but just to damn heavy.

deep down i know the car is just to heavy and that hp vs hp the dsm will always be faster with less hp, but admitting my 3000 will never be as fast as a dsm could be is like finding out your girlfriend is cheating, you still love her but you know you should move on.

once i get past 50 post though ill be able to start searching the classified section on this site.

edit: and congrats about an 11 sec pass on 13G's. thats a hell of a pass for those turbos. if i could find an e85 station around here i would be in heaven.