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edpettit_TSI · 05-20-2003, 07:02 PM

I'm gonna be ordering cams this week, hopefully tonight. With my set up should i go 264/264 or 264/272. I've been hearing various sides from different people. Any opinions would help. Thanks /ed

DR.Spock · 05-20-2003, 07:16 PM

"We don't feel that the 264/264 combo gives enough of a power increase to make it worth the cash so we don't normally stock the 264 exhaust cams "-RRE

edpettit_TSI · 05-20-2003, 07:54 PM

exact same site i was looking at

. anyone else have advice?? Also once i get the cams, will I need to get new cam gears?

shabby · 05-20-2003, 08:11 PM

How about if you do a little searching, theres a thread about hks cams right below this post. And AMS posted a huge review of a bunch of cams too... the search button is your friend.

edpettit_TSI · 05-20-2003, 08:46 PM

yes, the search button is my buddy; however, I have searched and I've just learned how the cams actually work

. I didn't see anything about replacing the cam gears, just figured, if your gonna do one you do the other.

edpettit_TSI · 05-20-2003, 09:06 PM

sorry shabby just searched more, and realized that I'm gonna do the 264/264; This was after reading AMS. I'm still confused on the whole "do I wanna just replace the cam gears while I'm replacing the cams".

Black97TSIAWD · 05-20-2003, 10:02 PM

Doesn't matter if you wanted the 272 exhuast cam from RRE anyways, they are sold out and don't know when they are getting them back in, they are probably back ordered till August.

Dougs97gst · 05-21-2003, 03:05 AM

GO TO www.horsepowerfreaks.com they are A LOT cheaper and I don't think that they are backoredered at all. You can get a set shipped for like 550 or so...

awdboost · 05-21-2003, 09:15 AM

I think the 264/272 is a good combo. You do still see more power out of the 264/272 combo. Go with that.

RedDevil · 05-21-2003, 09:26 AM

With your setup, I would stay with stock cams. Save your money for a bigger turbo first

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loreak · 05-21-2003, 02:56 PM

what kind of difference is there between the intake 264 vs 272, if im gonna upgrade cams id want to probably get 272/272 but i dont know what the consequences of the larger intake cam is exactly

i want a rough lumpy idle, does it make a decent diff in power?

edpettit_TSI · 05-21-2003, 03:20 PM

Thanks for all the input guys. Reddevil I'm in the process of upgrading to an 18g within the month, so I feel that is big enough. Last night I also just purchased my o2 eliminatr w/dump and safc. I decided to get the fuel control before getting the cams; however, I am going to order them w/in the next 2 weeks.

95GSXracer · 05-22-2003, 09:35 PM

loreak, I posted this in another cam thread a minute ago, but I'll put it here too since it pertains directly to your question.

I did some back to backs on pump gas (track was closed) with the logger and I measured a 4 lb/min increase going from stock to 264/264. Going to full 272s gained me another whole lb/min. This was on a TDO6/50 trim. I saw no difference in airflow at lower rpms, and consequently felt no loss in low end power. Idle is equally "cool" with both cams. Not much difference that I can see. The one downside to the full 272s was a noticeable increase in lag. It wasnt bad, maybe a 1-200 rpm, but it was noticeable. I think the majority of people would be doing well to get the 264s, but since they are the same cost, its easy to say why not just get the 272s. Your call