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Old 08-24-2009, 11:00 PM   #16
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

I looped the rack on my old Integra. Car felt a lot better imo.

You should check the fluid from time to time to make sure there is some in there.
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Old 08-24-2009, 11:20 PM   #17
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

This is nothing like looping lines read the thread first please

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Old 08-25-2009, 12:24 AM   #18
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

This looks way better than looping the lines. Would love to seed a write up for a dsm.
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Old 08-25-2009, 12:53 AM   #19
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

Ack, I'm an idiot.

That's very interesting.
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Old 08-25-2009, 01:57 PM   #20
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

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One of the guys from a DSM site that I mod on has already done this to his 1G, so it's definitely a possibility:
http://texas-dsm.com/forum/showthrea...=7046#post7046

I plan on doing the same to my 2G rack when I have time as I just have the lines looped right now.

Would love to see a full write up for DSM'ers swade that we can all reference too!
Looks like you need to register, any way you can copy and paste here, or is there too much stuff?
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Old 08-25-2009, 03:55 PM   #21
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

My bad, I forgot it's a private forum.
Here ya go:

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A few pictures of my newest modification to my Talon.

The correct way to remove power steering from a car besides replacement with a manual rack. This is known as a de-powered power steering rack.... Enjoy.

Looks normal enough, right?


What's this? Are these fabricated plugs? Why, yes they are.




See anything missing in this picture?


Oh yeah, that's right. These are supposed to be there....



"What is this I'm looking at", you ask?

When you remove the belt that drives the power steering pump, you are removing the "assist" to the system. Therefore, the pump is no longer creating the pressure needed to assist with the steering direction. Aside from common belief, the resistence you feel after removing the belt is actually the fluid being forcefully redirected through the lines and partially reverse bias towards the pump. So what has been believed as "removing power steering" is a matter of looping the pressure and return lines together, creating a closed fluid circuit. The "feel" isn't as stiff as before the "removal" and is tolerable by some.

These pictures are of a "de-powered" steering rack. I prefer this method as opposed to replacing the rack with a "unicorn" manual rack because I still maintain the quicker turn-to-turn ratio which gives a more responsive feel when driving. "Isn't it going to be hard to drive at low speeds"? If you guys can deal with the feel of just the removal of the belt, then, this time, you are in for a treat...
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Old 08-26-2009, 12:27 AM   #22
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

thanks for the info! i know 1 thing im doin this winter!
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Old 08-26-2009, 09:58 AM   #23
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

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My bad, I forgot it's a private forum.
Here ya go:
No problem, thank you for posting it up. I actually joined the forum to see if he had anymore info of how it was done, but he only eluded to there being a few more things that were needed other than whats listed by Flyin' Miata. I am seriously considering this as something to do, but since my Talon is my daily, I want to make sure I can do it. Thanks again.
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Old 09-02-2009, 11:53 PM   #24
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

Would like to know if this is possible for a 2g. Definitely a work out with just the looped lines. Especially parking.
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Old 09-03-2009, 12:35 AM   #25
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

So all you do is plug the stock lines. Then cut off those 2 things that run fluid across the rack or what ever and weld them shut? He didn't really explain anything..
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Old 09-03-2009, 07:45 AM   #26
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

Looks like it would be a very good alternative to people having to go find a manual rack. Anyone try this on a dsm before? Doesn't even look that difficult if you have some fab skillz.
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Old 09-05-2009, 08:46 AM   #27
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

I've done it in my Expo van, (same thing). I love it, changing lanes has to be the funnest thing in the world right now. I tore the rack apart and hack sawed the seal off the rack. I also go new inner and outer tie rods and boots. I LOVE it....until i got my dui a few days ago

Even my little 120lb girl can drive it because shes the one driving me around now, she has trouble doing 90* turns and in parking lots. overall road feel is 1000x better. I always thought that the stock power steering was way to sensitive. It took me about 2 days, and an alignment later. I would put it at 7 on a one to ten, ten being the hardest.

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Old 09-05-2009, 10:06 AM   #28
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

what exactly do you do when you depower your rack? besides take off the lines pump etc.?
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Old 09-05-2009, 10:37 AM   #29
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

Did you not read any of the prior posts?

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Old 09-05-2009, 11:10 AM   #30
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Re: "Depower" a Power steering rack

VFAQ on this would be awesome!
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