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Hello you guys,
I have a 99 Eclipse GST Spyder with auto trans.
I am about to swap it with an european 5speed trans from a german 2G GS (Non-Turbo).

I read a lot about the swaps you made, but of course no one used an european trans.
Do you know any differents between the US- 5spd trans and the EU?

I know there are different
-Axle drive shafts
-Clutch (size)
-Flywheel?

I don`t know if these axles are strong enough to get along with the torque of the turbo engine...

In this thread I will put in as many pictures as I can! I will completely comment the swap the best I can. Maybe some of you can learn from me :D

These are the parts which I will need, maybe I forgot some: The one with questions, I can`t translate, please help by explaining.

2g 5-speed transmission
Metal plate between the engine a transmission
Axles
Clutch Disc and Pressure Plate
Clutch fork
? throw out bearing ?
T-Case
Front, rear and passenger mounts for 5 speed
Clutch Pedal Assembly
Brake Pedal Assembly
Shifter Base
Shifter Cables
Clutch Master Cylinder
Clutch slave cylinder
? Clutch Reservoir with firewall bracket ?
Clutch Line
Shift bootet
M/T ECU
Rear transmission mount
Connectors from the m/t harness

Sorry for my english, I am german. I hope I will not have too many problems with the language...

So that should be enough for the first post.
On saturday 26th of july I will get it on, I am so excited...

Greetings from Berlin, Germany...
 

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These are some pictures from the trans I will buy. The milage is 124t miles. But I hope there will be no damages.
On friday we will open it and see how it looks.






 

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If my brain is functioning properly, the GS-T Spyder comes with a completely different engine then the GS :p

No it will not work. Search, you will find that your question has been answered before.
 

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Wow a reply, its a wonder!
Joking apart, the GS in Germany only had the 4G63 engine!
You mean the 420A engine which was never been sold here...
 

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MonchMan said:
Wow a reply, its a wonder!
Joking apart, the GS in Germany only had the 4G63 engine!
You mean the 420A engine which was never been sold here...
:eek: I see.

Go for it then.

Automatic in Europe? Eeh. Get that 5-speed.
 

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Discussion Starter · #6 · (Edited)
Either there were no automatic eclipse in Germany.

I have an imported 99 Eclipse Spyder GST auto.

Your right, I need the manual. I even feel a bit ashamed :p
 

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No one here who can / wants to answer my questions?

What is a clutch reservoir with firewall bracket? (Can`t translate...)
What is the throw out bearing?

Thank you guys. Tomorrow I will buy the tranny and I hope I don`t forget a part for the swap.
Here it is 9:40pm. So I say good night :D
 

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MonchMan said:
What is a clutch reservoir with firewall bracket? (Can`t translate...)
What is the throw out bearing?

The clutch reservoir is a little fluid reservoir. I don't have a picture, so here's a brain exercise. Picture a sport motorcycle. They have the clutch reservoir up on the handle bars. Looks the same, only bigger on the Eclipse.

When you buy a new clutch, it should come with a TOB. You need it for the clutch to work properly. You can also get one through Mitsu.
 

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Discussion Starter · #10 · (Edited)
This is my car, and there are no doubts, its a 4G63T engine.



Thank you for the explaining, now I think I know which parts I need. In 4 hours I will get the tranny.
Here is a pic from a TOB:


BTW the german word for TOB is " Ausrücklager ". And you speak it out like this :D : Ous-ryk-laager (aa is a long a like in large)... enough now!

Be back on sunday, wish a nice weekend, see u...
 

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Here are the next photos, I bought the trans on last friday the following parts were in the package:

+2g 5-speed transmission
+7-bolt flywheel
+clutch pedal assembly
+axles
+clutch disc and pressure plate
+clutch fork
+front, rear and passenger mounts for 5 speed (just think I have only the one u can see on the photos)
+brake pedal assembly
+shifter base
+shifter cables
+clutch master cylinder
+clutch slave cylinder (already on the trans)

These parts I still need, which one of them are senseless to buy???

-M/T ECU (do u think I need it?)
-metal plate between the engine a transmission (don`t know what is meant)
-clutch reservoir with firewall bracket
-clutch Line (I think my friend and I will build one)
-shift bootet (no problem to get one)
-rear transmission mount
-connectors from the m/t harness

Do you know which parts I have to find else?

Here are the photos:
Shifter base & master cyl.

the padels, I`m not sure if this order is correct :eek:

the trans with the upper mount, flywheel, clutch disk, pressure plate

the slave cyl. mounted on the trans

here you see the clutch fork with the TOB

the 2 axles and the shifter cables
 

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I know a wee bit of german ;)
 

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Mein Deutsch ist nicht so gut.

Ich habe noch nie getan, bevor die Swap, also kann ich nicht beantworten Ihre Fragen
 

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So then what about the EE.
He apparently knows how to do the swap.
I just have one week for the work, and still I need some parts. Tomorrow I will start it, then you will get new pictures from the swap!

Do you read this EE???
 

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The swap has started.
Here are some pictures I made on monday.

As u said the seat is the enemy, and u were right. Work is much easier without it.


4 bolts for the seat and one little bad connector:


removed the right cover of the legroom:


removed the lower cover with 4 bolts


removed the 2 eyebolt(red), the doublebolt (green) and 6 other bolts for terminating the brake pedal assembly


the US and the EU brake pedal assembly


the rust scared me to death. the gst is younger and the gs has no rust at all!


You see the marks on the left for the clutch pedal. Have to make the holes tomorrow.


Some little bolts later the middle console was naked. This step was pretty easy.


The bolts for the manual shifter base are too short! I bought new one today. But 2 of the old bolts can be used for the clutch pedal.
 

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I thougt we had to flex the brake pedals because I wanted to keep the mechanism from the automatic brake pedal assembly for the cruise control. Now I know it was just for pressing the brake pedal to start the engine. Manual trans do not need this anymore. Ups...:p


Finally the hole for the clutch pedal and master cylinder was made with this tools...


The master cylinder and the clutch pedal installed...



Didn`t knew that 3 pedals side by side could look soooo good:D

But I have to flex and weld the pedal again, because it is too close to the driver...

The engine is pretty naked now and it has to wait until I get the last parts.
Rear and front transmission mount,
clutch line,
clutch reservoir,
some bolts...


I hope I can go on next weekend...
 

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Keep er going!

There is a guy on here 18 years old or something that was doing the same exact thing with his red GSX, but gave up in the middle.

I remember reading some place that one thing you must remember to do, is yank the "Park" sensor, the thing that makes it so you can't pull the key out when its not in park.
 

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I'm not sure about the 2G, but when I did this swap in my 1st gen the park sensor you are referring to was a simple sliding mechanisim under the ignition switch. Don't forget about the wiring for the inhibitor switch!
 

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The one cable going from the lock to the automatic gear shift is out. We tried the key to pull in and out and it functioned. So I think this problem is done.
On the auto trans is a little part which controls the position of the gear shift for starting the engine. I will make a photo from and post it next weekend. Thank you!
 
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