how do i keep losing?

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widebody_gst

Discussion Starter · Nov 26, 2005

ok something must be wrong with my car , be it the weight issue (widebody, 4 pt roll cage, 19's etc..) or whoever i bought the car from lying about what is in the engine....can someone come up with an idea of why i lost to a n/a rsx type s with race header, intake, exhaust and a 99 mustang gt with intake, x pipes, chip, ??? SUPPOSIVELY my car has this:

Mitsubishi 20g ported & clipped
Nitrous Express Nitrous n tercooler system
Custom Reinforced Pistons and Crankshaft (??)
FUZION rocker springs (??)
Apex boost control
Custom Nitrous Intercooler Spray Bar
Thermal 3" Exhaust
HRC Hybrid 3" Eliminator Downpipe
Injen Polished Intake Pipe, Oil Cap, Fuse Box cover, Spark Plug Wire cover
Polished Apex Front Mount Intercooler
HKS Turbo Timer
Greddy Profec A Boost Controller
Apex sAFC
Polished GReddy type s Blowoff Valve
Chromed GReddy Upper Intercooler Pipes
RC Engineering 550cc Injectors
Chromed Valve Cover
Custom Polished Radiator Pipe
Chrome Custom Intercooler Pipes
Magnacore 8.5mm Wires
NGK Plugs
ACT 2600LB Clutch
Unorthodox Pulley Set & Cam Gears
Walbro Fuel Pump
Fluidyne Radiator
SPAL Radiator Fans

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Gst_LmJ

· #2 · Nov 26, 2005

hmmm, well a 20g in 550cc injectors wont let you see all the boost you need to make a lot of power, but even then, a stock t-25 powered dsm can take an rsx-s, I would say make a compression test and check for boost leaks, or nock, there is def something wrong with your car.....

NONTRBO

· #3 · Nov 26, 2005

Gst_LmJ said:
hmmm, well a 20g in 550cc injectors wont let you see all the boost you need to make a lot of power, but even then, a stock t-25 powered dsm can take an rsx-s, I would say make a compression test and check for boost leaks, or nock, there is def something wrong with your car.....

Maybe on mars a stock 2g could take a stock rsx-s much less a moded one. Get us lots and lots of pics of the engine bay and then we will be able to tell you what you do and don't have. what are the setting on your safc???

fiveSFE

· #4 · Nov 26, 2005

rsx type s is a fast car, and they react very well to mods, just with bolt ons that you listed they become very quick. definatly some bigger injectors would be good for a 20g. I would also go get a pocket logger-every dsm'er should have one! other than that, just keep up on maintnence, make sure your plugs are in good condition, do a boost leak test and compression test like the guys before me said

shekky

· #5 · Nov 26, 2005

You should check to make sure you really have those parts on the car, then tune it properly. With those mods, you should rape the hell out of an RSX.

takumi4G63

· #6 · Nov 26, 2005

A car can run worse than stock with all those parts if tuned badly. There are too many possibilites but you should start by having someone who knows DSMs take a look at it and tune it.

ApexImprt2nR

· #7 · Nov 26, 2005

Yeah I'd check for compression, boost leaks, etc. You shouldn't be losing like that to an RSX-S, even if it's modded like it was.

GSXspeeddemon

· #8 · Nov 26, 2005

Almost all of the parts you listed are pretty much visual. If you really have no idea what the parts are (much less what they do), you should do some research and find out (internet) what they look like and what they all do and then check if you have them in your car. It ill take some work but at least you will know what you're driving , and not be some ignorant punk who thinks hes driving a fast car.

logick

· #9 · Nov 27, 2005

check you're rollcage, most of them in widebody's are pvc, if that's the case, the car is stock

Pockets22

· #10 · Nov 27, 2005

Man, whoever said a stock dsm can't take a type s is an idiot. It would be a close race but a stock dsm will take out a type s, and with those mods listed there a type s isnt even close to your league.

fiveSFE

· #11 · Nov 27, 2005

ive seen a 2004 rsx type s with intake header exhuast race my friends talon that had intake, exhuast, hacked mass on like 14 psi, the rsx type s barely walked on him.

Pockets22

· #12 · Nov 27, 2005

Ya i mean from a dig. If both are "decent driver's" then the dsm should take it, gst or gsx both.

firestarter4206

· #13 · Nov 27, 2005

umm check compression, and timing, also a booooost leak, and you need 650, 660 or 680 injectors bro, 550s arent gona cut it anymore

Gst_LmJ

· #14 · Nov 27, 2005

NONTRBO said:
Maybe on mars a stock 2g could take a stock rsx-s much less a moded one. Get us lots and lots of pics of the engine bay and then we will be able to tell you what you do and don't have. what are the setting on your safc???

Can you read??
I didnt say a stock eclipse, I said an eclipse using a stock t-25 turbo, I had no problem walking RSX-S when i had the stock turbo, and now with a 16g (A LOT smaller than a 20g) I dont even bother......

TSilovemycar

· #15 · Nov 27, 2005

Gst_LmJ said:
Can you read??
I didnt say a stock eclipse, I said an eclipse using a stock t-25 turbo, I had no problem walking RSX-S when i had the stock turbo, and now with a 16g (A LOT smaller than a 20g) I dont even bother......

I drive a 1g and all i had when i raced a three type s was big 16g on stock boost and fuel. Full 3" exhaust. I walked away in 2nd and left in 3rd.

NONTRBO

· #16 · Nov 27, 2005

Gst_LmJ said:
Can you read??
I didnt say a stock eclipse, I said an eclipse using a stock t-25 turbo, I had no problem walking RSX-S when i had the stock turbo, and now with a 16g (A LOT smaller than a 20g) I dont even bother......

then the ones you raced where either rebadged base rsxs or they couldn't drive. A gs-t is going to have a hard time running greater than a mid 14 on the t25 maybe a low 14(that's a big maybe). STOCK rsx-s run in the mid to high 14's. And with simple bolt ons are hitting low low low 14's to high/mid 13's. I don't care how good of a driver you are you are not going to run a low14/high13 with the t25 it just aint going to happen. I love dsms just as much as the next guy but please you need to get realistic about the cars capabilities. So no you were not "walking" any rsx type s's when you had the t25. With the 16g yes, with the t25 keep dreaming buddy.

White91TalonTsi

· #17 · Nov 27, 2005

NONTRBO said:
then the ones you raced where either rebadged base rsxs or they couldn't drive. A gs-t is going to have a hard time running greater than a mid 14 on the t25 maybe a low 14(that's a big maybe). STOCK rsx-s run in the mid to high 14's. And with simple bolt ons are hitting low low low 14's to high/mid 13's. I don't care how good of a driver you are you are not going to run a low14/high13 with the t25 it just aint going to happen. I love dsms just as much as the next guy but please you need to get realistic about the cars capabilities. So no you were not "walking" any rsx type s's when you had the t25. With the 16g yes, with the t25 keep dreaming buddy.

Pff, Hell Ive ripped with a Type S, Started walking away at about 160 then he chickened out. My Talon was 100% stock at 12psi at the time.

My good buddy with a 91 240SX with a Injen Intake ran with an RX8 Auto and beat it from a roll

fiveSFE

· #18 · Nov 27, 2005

arent our cars goverend at 137ish?

White91TalonTsi

· #19 · Nov 27, 2005

fiveSFE said:
arent our cars goverend at 137ish?

Oh sorry, Im Canadian, its in km/h

Imagine 160mph and his chickening out!

Pockets22

· #20 · Nov 27, 2005

Wtf who the hell got this info. that an rsx-s runs mid to high 14s, i don't fucken think so. Try 14.9-15.1 at best. Also has to be said, mod for mod rsx-s doesn't stand a chance and thats a fact. Any real dsme'r knows this. Heck even rsx guys with half a brain know this.

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