[Silver TSI]

Why? Why? Why? I took my timing belt off and I was able to turn the damn cams by hand like there was nothing putting force against the cams, hense the rocker arms, so I took off the valve cover to find this. What would cause this? What else did I "F" up? I was driving 55mph in 5th gear when this happened. Also, how do I put these son's bitches back on?
Thanks for your help!!
Nick

 

[RippinGSX]

Damn man!! I swear you have worse luck than me. Sorry I haven't messed with that part of my car yet but I'm sure it's just a matter of time.

 

[RabidDonkeyBoy]

get a manual it will detail how to do most jobs pretty well, even a hayes or chilton manual

 

[laser92awd]

I suppose they can be put back on without too much difficulty...

http://www.vfaq.com/mods/lifters.html

Not sure why they fall off. I suppose collapsed lifters could make it easier to fall off?

Dunno...

 

[Silver TSI]

get a manual it will detail how to do most jobs pretty well, even a hayes or chilton manual

Have one, it only tells you how to do it on the 1.8l in the SHITons.

 

[Michael]

Unless I'm being stupid, your valves are bent. They aren't returning fully, which allows too much gap between the rocker and the cam, which allows the rocker to fall off.

You can put the rocker arms back on by just taking out the cams, but it sounds like you get to rebuild your head now.

 

[AudioGod]

What happened at 55 MPH in 5th gear? I'm assuming you lost your timing belt, but you never said so.

 

[Silver TSI]

What happened at 55 MPH in 5th gear? I'm assuming you lost your timing belt, but you never said so.

Whats up man, your in Sterling Hts too? This is what Im thinking happened:
Driving along, oil pump seized breaking off about 1 ft of timing belt teeth, the belt slipped on the crank and the pistons hit the valves. I don't have the head off yet because I cant find a damn 11mm allen hex head socket. But I will find out sooner or later.

 

[talonman69]

it is common to have the rockers fall off after a t belt failure! some of mine actually cracked and fell apart leaving little pieces of metal and their bearings in the oil pan...ouch

I too all most gauruntee you bent some valves.

sorry

rob

 

[talonman69]

its 10mm hex...you can get them from craftsman, or basically any place like home depot, lowes, etc

 

[Silver TSI]

its 10mm hex...you can get them from craftsman, or basically any place like home depot, lowes, etc

The outside head bolts are 10mm hex, the ones in the center are 11mm.

 

[talonman69]

really, wait are you talking about the flat hex in the middle row...those DO NOT come out! they are freeze plugs i believe from casting the head.

rob

 

[Silver TSI]

really, wait are you talking about the flat hex in the middle row...those DO NOT come out! they are freeze plugs i believe from casting the head.

rob

Ill take a picture when i get home and post it to show what I am talking about.

 

[talonman69]

i got a pic of a bare head, how do i put it up here?

 

[Peter 92TSI]

The center bolts don't come out of the head.

Peter

 

[turboniam]

Yikes... SilverTSI, when we took the valve cover off and cleaned the lifters, it was hard to get the rockers back on... my friend used a long screw driver as leverage to manhandle them back on...

No word yet on my car or the problem... hopefully in the next few weeks we'll know??

 

[Silver TSI]

You don't these bolts??

 

[Taboo]

Nope, those are just freeze plugs, Nick, you need just 10mm for the head bolts. If the rockers fell off, you either bent valves (which is obvious if 1 foot of the teeth on the t-belt's missing) or your lifters collapsed..

 

[Silver TSI]

Nope, those are just freeze plugs, Nick, you need just 10mm for the head bolts. If the rockers fell off, you either bent valves (which is obvious if 1 foot of the teeth on the t-belt's missing) or your lifters collapsed..

Thanks Martin!!

 

[NINJA7]

Do you need a head Nick?