DAMN Brakes!!!!

ravz_tsiawd · May 29, 2001

Hey there.. i am wondering what ppl use to glue their pad shims to the back of the pads.. I have tried some stuff called "Disk Brake Quiet" its supposed to be specific shim glue, and it didnt work.. i still get that annyoing shim vibration noise.. when i pulled it back apart.. the glue wasnt even holding.. then i tried 100% silicone.. since thats sticky stuff.. and a frind said that thats what they used on his brakes.. but that didndt stik either.... WTF?? i am THIS close to mixing up a batch of JB Weld.. and using that.. but if there are any brands.. or anyideas.. please let me know..

thanx

Rav
97 TSi AWD

Silver TSI · May 29, 2001

"Disk Brake Quiet"

"Disk Brake Quiet" isn't a glue, all it does is keep the brakes from squeeling when you apply the brakes. I have never had to glue anything to any of my pads. The Brake Pad "Holders" were always riveted on. I may just be miss understanding you, but who knows.
NIck

ravz_tsiawd · May 29, 2001

Hey there,

I'm not sure what pad holders are .. the disk brake quiet stuff is supposed to go between the back of the pad and the front of the shim (a.k.a. backing plate).. does this make more sense?..

thanx

ravz_tsiawd · May 30, 2001

cumon ppl.. I know everyone here does their own brakes.. i just need some tips.. tricks.. am i supposed to put some stuff where the piston meets the pad?

do i need the shims?

spltscnd98gst · May 30, 2001

hmm..I use to put it between the shims (metal plate holder?) and the piston of the caliper. But I still get squeeks now and then. I'm going to put on my new pads and brembo rotors this weekend but this time, I think I'll put it on both sides of the shims. RAVZ: I'm going to use the high temp silicone and have it dry over night. I heard from a few of my buds that it works well that way. Why not put it on both sides of the shims? It won't hurt it will it?

Silver TSI · May 30, 2001

(Are the brake on a 2G differnt than a 1G?)
On my 91 all I had to do, is put the brake quiet on the back of the pads, put them on the caliper and bolt them up. Mine didn't need any type of shims, everything should be ready for installation.
Nick

[Edited by Silver TSI on 05-30-2001 at 12:10 PM]

ravz_tsiawd · May 30, 2001

I Think that is a good idea, when i used the silicone, I let it dry only a few hours.. but I only have one shim, that is how it came from the factory, and the shim was on the opposite side of the piston. So basicaly, the shim is being used on the side on the visible on the outside of the car..

thanx

Rav

spltscnd98gst · May 30, 2001

SILVER: I don't know if they're the same or not. To be honest, I don't even remember if the pads on my brakes had shims (metal plate right?) or not. On my other cars, I use to just put it on the the back of the the pad itself (so the blue stuff was between the caliper and the brake pad). I do remember my old Z had those metal plates and I use to just put the blue stuff on the plate. RAV: I would just make sure theres a good amount of dry silicone between the pad, the shims, and the caliper itself. In other words, try to avoid any metal to metal contact. Make sure you have enough silicone on the back of each pad. Believe me man..I'm tired of the squeeks and I'm gonna try to silicone the sh** out of it.

ravz_tsiawd · May 30, 2001

hehe.. i will try that AGAIN>>

.. but im getting kinda tired of jacking this thing up

rav

jimmoltz · May 30, 2001

Use the blue stuff, but let it dry enough to get a thick skin layer, then put the shims on. If you don't let it dry enough it runs out from where it needs to be, also when you have rotors turned, make sure they use a light grade of emery cloth on the surfaces to remove the record type of cut lines, this will help reduce/prevent squealing of the pads. It only needs to be a light touch up, so the pads don't PLAY like a record you know those old albums before CD's.

ravz_tsiawd · May 30, 2001

First of all.. thanx for all ur guys help.. i was begining to go mad..

..

I think that is what I am going to do... Coat the back of both pads, and the back(the side that touches the caliper) with blue or silicone, wait till it dries. then put it all back together.

Just to clarify, do you guys think that the shim (backing plate) should be against the side wit the brake pistons, or the other side??

thanx

Rav

jimmoltz · May 31, 2001

Shims

Usually there are shims on both sides, but you should have shims on atleast the piston side.

ravz_tsiawd · May 31, 2001

Hmmm... does it matter if i didnt have a shim on the piston side all this time?..

draculia · Jun 1, 2001

i just painted my calipers, and pulled them apart. i have a 95gsx, and there was only one shim on the side opposite the piston, and these were only in the rear, anyway, they were all rusted and ugly so i just tossed em. i haven't had any problems, or squeaks, or squeals at all.

FastGSXauto · Jul 10, 2002

so which side of the rotor gets the pad with the wear sensor? Does it go on the inner face of the rotor, or the outer face (faces outside of car)?

94eclipseDSM · Jul 10, 2002

The wear indicators go on the inside (piston side) just buy some good mettalic pads and they come with peel and stick shims, ready to install right then, i wouldn't put silicone anywhere near asbestos brake pads as the chemicals in the silicone will induce the wear on these type pads, check the manual, it shows what goes where.

L8r

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