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Hey whats up...Im planning on upgrading my stock 2g intercooler soon cuz im getting a HRC Super 20g. Im not sure on which intercooler to get but right now im thinking of either the Greddy Large FMIC or the Apexi FMIC. Which one do u think will be the best intercooler and the best one for my set-up.

Thanks for any help
 
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Its hard to say since there is absolutely NO charts or ANY info on the greddy intercoolers. IMO for the price, seeind as how they both are around 1200-1300$, Id go with the apex. It looks awesome like the greddy but *SHOULD* flow more from my understanding, even over greddys large FMIC. For the 20g, you should be fine with just the stock 2g kit (silvia core) If you want your car to someday be balls to the walls performance machine or are just looking for that extra something, you can upgrade to the skyline core which will flow way more than your turbo should be able to make. It wont ft as nicely as the silvia core, and you will have to remove your fog lights (1 person did it w/o removing them, but I dont know how) But in general, for the s-20g, I think you would be fine with the 2g apex kit.
 
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I think the apexi might suffer from overheating easier, from looking at it, it seems the Apexi core doesn't allow as much air to flow behind the radiator.

I have heard more complaints about overheating from Apexi owners than Greddy owners.

Just my opinion.. Of course almost nobody owned both FMICs to give any real advice, so you will have to listen to our internet racer speculations :)
 
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I like the look of the Apexi more than the GReddy. But both of them look sweet, since they both look awesome im just gonna get the one that performs better. But since the Apexi FMIC is smaller doesnt that mean less pressure drop? I have heard from some people that the GReddy FMIC is too big and is over kill. What do u think of this?
 
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I have no solid evidence for what I am going to say, but from two vendors I talked to both said the Apexi Core is A LOT better in terms of pressure drop and flow. The Greedy core supposedly is not meant for over 15 psi or something like that. And the two vendors that I talked to sold both Greedy and Apexi, so obviously were that one sided.

And the Apexi flows air very well. Look at the design. They designed to by pass air to the radiator. IT's easy to see through it.

Peter
 
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This is pretty hard for me to decide which intercooler to get. Im leaning towards the Apexi FMIC but i also still want the Greddy FMIC. The Greddy FMIC is cheaper and bigger but i heard bigger is not always better. If anyone could find out any specs or info on the Apexi FMIC and Greddy FMIC id greatly appreciate it.
 
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http://www.maccar.com/apexturbo.html

The grey eclipse in the picture has the silvia core. That comes with the typical 2g package and IMO, would be the best intercooler for your needs. It looks badass, and wont be hard to install.

You can also check out apex'i's site http://www.apexi-usa.com/intake_gtintercooler.asp to check out closeup pics of it. If mine gets here anytime soon Ill take a WHOLE lot of pics of it and let you see them. I think they are by far the nicest looking IC and best performing Ive seen. I did a lot of research when I was buying my IC and couldnt hardly come across anything about the greddy. The only 2 sources of info I found were the rx-7 board, and the supra board. Both said that there wasnt as much flow as anticipated and that there was a larger pressure drop. The banner outside the local performance shop here DOES say "Not intended for applications over 15psi" and thats for thelarge FMIC, but again, I dont know the whole specs of it since they wont release it. They are both really good intercoolers, but i just couldnt get past the fact why greddy wont release its figures if its so good?
 
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I have the HAhn S-16g with Apexi FMIC. I'm happy with it, just hate my drivetrain :(
Apexi has those big end tanks, I'll never understand that, It's a good piece still
I "heard" the big Greddy has a shitty lower pipe, I don't know if it has a small I/D or what I heard. I think someone sells a repalcement pipe for the big Greddy.

Here's a link before I thru on the front end
http://davehanna.net/2gexhaust/My Documents/My Pictures/FMIC.jpg

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Discussion starter · #12 ·
Does anybody know whether the Apexi or Greddy intercooler would be easier to install? I heard from some people that the Apexi one is really hard to install because u have to shave the bumper and some said with the Greddy they didnt have to cut any of the bumper to install it. Has anybody ever had experience installing any of these intercoolers?
 
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Greddy big IC

I have the greddy big IC and I'm perfectly happy with it.My car has never overheated and my temp gauge never moves, but I'am saving up to buy the apex-i skyline fmic, since I'am planning on getting the fp green turbo in about 3months.
 
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Hey Turbo20lbs

Turbo20lbs said:
I have the HAhn S-16g with Apexi FMIC. I'm happy with it, just hate my drivetrain :(
Apexi has those big end tanks, I'll never understand that, It's a good piece still
I "heard" the big Greddy has a shitty lower pipe, I don't know if it has a small I/D or what I heard. I think someone sells a repalcement pipe for the big Greddy.

Here's a link before I thru on the front end
http://davehanna.net/2gexhaust/My Documents/My Pictures/FMIC.jpg

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I eventually plan on upgrading to a FMIC once I upgrade my turbo. I plan on going with a TRE BIG 16G ported and clipped. But that will be a while from now. At first I was thinking about getting the small GReddy but since reading this thread I'm starting to lean towards the Apexi with the Skyline Core.
How much did you pay for yours?
How easy was the install?
I see you know longer have in your fog lights. Is it impossible to install the Apexi FMIC and keep the stock fogs?
Finally, I have GReddy Upper and lower I/C pipes along with a GReddy Type-S BOV. If I do indeed decide on the APexi FMIC I know that I will have to scrap the lower pipe but will I still be able to use my upper Greddy pipes? I'd hate to have to buy all new pipes and then fabricate some type of flange to work with the GReddy BOV. Does all of the needed piping come with the Apexi Kit? If so, what all is included in the kit?

Sorry about all of the questions. :)

[Edited by Jayman on 06-09-2001 at 01:05 AM]
 
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Jayman ~20 questions and answers

How much did you pay for yours?
$999, u can get it for ~$975 or less maybe now

How easy was the install?

Install isn't "easy", there's no "bolt on" application here, but it's not hard either. It's just not fun. Take your time. Ya throw on the core and piping in no time. It's the hacking and cutting of the reinforcement and bumper fascia that take time (if you want it to look nice and neat). I should also mention that some of the mounting brackets that are welded to the pipes didn't line up that great to where they were suppose to go. No big deal, a little bending took care of it.

I see you know longer have in your fog lights. Is it impossible to install the Apexi FMIC and keep the stock fogs?

It's possible to keep the fogs, I didn't care to try, the fog lights wern't gonna make my car go any faster so I just left them off. I'm 99% sure you'll have to relocate them. Shouldn't be that hard. Talk to Justin Gabrius of WI. HE helped me out with some pics to get thru the install of FMIC. And I know he's had stock fogs on his car with the Apexi if I'm not mistaken. He has same 97+ front end as us. jgabrius@hotmail.com

Finally, I have GReddy Upper and lower I/C pipes along with a GReddy Type-S BOV. If I do indeed decide on the APexi FMIC I know that I will have to scrap the lower pipe but will I still be able to use my upper Greddy pipes?

You'll be just fine, I have same exact piping set-up.

Does all of the needed piping come with the Apexi Kit? If so, what all is included in the kit?

NO, but almost. You get all the hard piping neccessary from outlet on compressor, to the UICP. However, if you look at where the Greddy UCIP connects to the stock I/C, there is a REDUCER connection hose. I think it's a 2.25 to 2.0". That thing has to go. I believe all the piping is 2.25" with the Apexi kit. So you'll need 1 additional 2.25 (i think) rubber/silicone connection hose.
 
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Thanks for the info man :)
 
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