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This thread is 15 pages long, and better than 1/3rd of it is wishful thinking or posts that have absolutely nothing to do with the turbo in question. Everyone stay on topic. This thread is going to be cleaned up and it better not be thrown around like this again.
 
Haven't posted here in a while so I figured I would update you guys. Went to the track a little over a month ago with the QTPs on the car. I was worried about breaking axles so I eased it out of the hole on the first pass.

1.97 60'
7.114@111.33
10.68@140.42

next pass I decided to try to launch it, SNAP, left rear axle shaft broke. Replaced the axle and decided to go out and take it easy on the launch again and try to make it up on the big end.

?? 60'
6.919@112.37
10.465@139.86 (screwed up the 3-4 shift)

Car is making some decent power, with the new axles and a agressive launch I don't see it having problems going 9s on this turbo. Its got a few more lbs of boost in it still, its at 30-31PSI, and its only on a 50 shot.

http://3kgtstuff.servepics.com/videos/johns evil talon2.wmv

I like how the TA picked the wheels up on me, he missed 4th on the pass, he was running 11.3s all day. He walked up to me later and commented how he lost by 9 tenths so had he ran a 11.3 again he would have still lost.

Went back the next weekend, first pass blew off a coolant hose to the heater core and sucked coolant in the BOV. Car started breaking up, went 11.7@132.

Next pass I rolled it out the hole, 2.1 60', and went a 10.7@138. Clutch felt like it started to let go up top.

Line up again after letting it sit a hour, unfortunetly that was the end of this clutch just slipped car went no where.

So right now car is in the garage, I am replacing the 2900 ACT with a 3200; replacing the ACT chromoly with a Fidanza; getting a set of DSS STG5 rear axles; taking the QTPS off the old school talon wheels and putting them on some bronze slipstreams.

I am also trying to fight the urge to put on a 3575 right now. I really want to get the car to ET with the little turbo first though.
 
Hey guys wanted to update a bit. I got my FP3065 about a week ago or so
and its still in the box while I finish putting in my 2.4 with all the mods in my sig. I figure another week or so should be up and about.
I was worried to break in the new motor with the new turbo but don't have an old turbo that will easily hook up.
So guess have to break it in with the FP3065.I have the filtered oil line and might pick up magnetic drain plug.
I will change out the oil and oil filter and check the fp oil line filter likely at around 100 ,500 and 2000 miles. I would think that should be about right.
As said can't put on something else to break in the motor.
I am expecting some decent times with my mods list. I have 1bar spring for now.I plan on not going much past 20psi until get a new tre or shep tranny which will likley be next year. Axles are also worrying me so mgiht have to get some of those also. Or does anyone make stronger 2g rear axles.Or are the fronts week also?
I am not going to be tracking my car much if at all. It might see an 11.5 pass maybe once in its life and then no more track.Its mostly just a street toy.
I am still not sure should have maybe got the smaller FP3052 but with my 2.4 seems a waste to run a FP3052.And don't really need full boost really really low rpm all the time around town.
Sure the FP3065 will be scary fast enough for me. I have a twin turbo 99 trans am that is going to be insanely fast so the talon doesn't have to be my fastest car. Over a 1000rwhp potential in my twin turbo ta.
 
Still putting my 2.4 and all my mods in my car.Almost done another week or so.
I am wondering about a few things again. Did I read about breaking transfer cases now? Does anyone make a stronger tranfer case?
On back axles is the DSS shaft kit good enough? So the fronts don't break that much ?
I am a bit paranoid now. What can I launch at at maybe 20 to 22 psi or should I just keep the boost at 20 until get trans,axles,transfer case.I am on street tires.firestone fuzions so that might save some driveline parts and not sure where to set the two step on my dsmlink..
I might take the car to the track once this year but don't want to wreck anything.
Am I being overly paranoid?
 
Almost ready to rock and roll! New 2.4 and FP3065 in their new home.
Figure another week or so tops now to get it running.
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That's great on your build up and everything, but if possible could you wait until the car's actually running and you have feedback to post about this turbo? It is "parts review" afterall and Colonolfex already had to weed out this thread. :rolleyes:
 
I thought I was staying pretty close to topic there is really no other thread on the FP3065 like this one.
I should have reviews on performance in a few weeks.It looks like it does fit fantastic and seems to clear the water pipe and gt manifold with no grinding or clearancing.
 
Ok I have a few break in miles on my new 2.4 and a few comments and questions on my fp3065.
The turbo is like others said great. :) It spools like greased lightning once it starts I haven't really been looking at the tach more the road ahead. :eek:
Its a wild ride even at only the 12psi I have seen briefly so far since breaking in my engine for 500 miles and new clutch so staying at 1/2 to 2/3 throttle and not holding it in boost.Break in runs are were like 30 to 70mph and were averaging 7 to 10psi.

I would think the turbo will spool up like others have said start at 3000 or so and full at 3800 with full throttle.I have factory exhaust on the car for another week or so with cat cut out since it was really clogged up.
I have apexi gt downpipe and catback ordered.

The turbo sounds great ,especially how it spins after you shut car .And of course when it spools up.
Overal I am very happy with it and pretty sure it will be a wild ride with my mods when I start going 20 and beyond psi.I doubt I will ever want more turbo on my street car than this one.It may see the track a couple times, once likely this season at 20psi or so and again next season after get trans and maybe some stronger axles and then take it to 30psi or beyond possibly with small shot of spray, have my jm fab set up for direct port.

Other comments and observations..I got both exhaust and compressor side polished.Not sure it makes sense you can't really see much of them in the car and its hard not to scratch up the compressor housing no matter how careful you are with install and stuff. Also my exhaust housing has turned color..I thought someone said it didnt'.

I am not crazy about the vbands on the tial gate and o2 housing.They are not that easy to install and reinstall with exh man and things on the car.
I have a problem currently with my 02 housing joint leaking really bad.I was pretty sure the clamp is on there as the 02 housing did seem to swivel.Is it possible I don't have it on right. Does the clamp have to orient a certain way?
I hope its not welding problem or have to take off the turbo again possibly and get it tigged locally or the o2 housing.Not a huge deal but still a pain.
I thought it was the tial leaking but it seems to be the o2 housing joint.
There are no gaskets available for the v bands right and dont' think you use rtv.?
Anyone else had problems with this leaking at that o2 to turbo joint?
Or getting the tial to seal up. That is another issue. that valve seat in the gate makes it hard to get that to go together also. Can the valve seat go in backwards?
I seem to have some black in the wastegate tube and with 15psi spring that I have currently in there I don't think have even hit 15 why would I already have some black in that dump tube?It don't sound like gate is leaking only the o2 to turbo joint.

I will be messing on the car today and trying to figure it out.

Other than the exhaust leaking the FP3065 does indeed rock the house and works nicely with my 2.4 combo. I have as you can see in my sig lots of mods like stage 3 crowers,forged rods and pistons and jm fab intake,ported tb fuel and tuning support. I was initially a bit worried that should have got the FP3052 but think with the 2.4 the 3065 gives me similar spool up to the fp3052 in a 2.0. And around town you don't need massive power if you want to stay out of jail!

I played just a bit with buddies 2001 z28 from about 30 to 70mph at again maybe 2/3 throttle and just touched 12psi. The talon did itself proud and buddy thought with full throttle even at 12psi sustained i would have strarted to pull ahead.His car is 330 rwhp dynoed and I had extra passenger in the 97 talon.Also I was only shifting at 6000 again cause breaking in engine and clutch.

The FP3065 is a SCREAMER!!! It spools up like an electric drill!I get a big woodie just thinking about it. :D
 
No not much updates to report. I have about 350 miles of break in on car .
I would have more but have developed annoying oil leak which think is from oil pan. Had lots of them after using a topline oil pan gasket in my rebuild. I took pan off,bought slowboys new improved pan and used ultra gray this time. I got rid of most of my leaks but have a bad one right over my inner drivers axle joint. It slings oil all over the place! I maybe messed up as the oilpan slid over slightly when was reininstalling it so maybe it rubbed the rtv off or something.
No idea and can't see the leak its right behind that axle joint! :tat:
I am going to redo the oil pan and will be more careful this time not to
let it get out of register.Think try to find or make some studs to use as guides this time.

I have driven the car here and there and kept boost at that 10 to 12psi or so range not gone past 3/4 throttle .The car is still quick even at that.
Today I bolted on my new apexi gt exhaust although haven't tried it yet again since ripping oil pan out think today.
I was running on the stock exhaust with no cat but still must have been choking the heck out of my FP3065.
I also have done no tuning at all yet on my link ,just have base chip tune which sure is very rich.
So lots of things to do. As soon as that leak gets fixed will drive car 24/7 and finish the clutch 500 mile break in. Boost will go instantly to the gate rating 1 bar or 15 psi will tune it and then shoot for 20psi on pump. Can get 91 gas or 92 gasohol possibly 94 gasohol is coming here this year. Already in neighboring cities.
I have access to xylene and toluene if want to make up some race gas.
I plan on water/alco injection next year. Then shoot for 25 on pump ,heard or one guy running 30 on pump with 100% meth.Not sure if want to try that.
Not that greedy sure 20psi is lots on this turbo with my mods and the 2.4 around town.
I also don't think my tail gate or 02 is leaking at vband but still have some small leak there..mabye turbo exhaust bolt is loose or something.The ones on the turbo? I retorqued the turbo to exh man bolts but will double check torque on them again anyway. I hate exhaust leaks. Might take car to garage I know with smoke machine. See if it can find the leak.

So pretty pleased with fp3065 overall and my 2.4 and my mods. Seem pretty streetable.But can be fast as fuck when you want it to be.I can see that already at 13psi even .Can only imagine what 30psi feels like on this thing! :D
 
Update and some more questions:
I have about 2000 miles on my 2.4 motor now. Clutch is broken in,done some hard launching.Ran some tazzo runs which is like a gtech and got 13.3 at 1bar spring only base chip settings on the dsmlink with 2.0 60ft. I am still learning how to launch with my stutterbox ,haven't tried anitlag yet.
I was on pump 92 gasohol.
I have been trying to tune now for 20psi and not having much luck. I keep seeing knock, its on the boost knock and while have got it in lower gears today it was really in like fourth and think fifth, it keeps coming up in fair amounts. Was going to redline in fourth and up there in fifth also.
High speed highway runs.
I have reduced timing pretty much to 12 degrees across the board up high and think my afr is still mostly around 10 to 10.5 to 1. Temps today were like 65 F out.
I just get minor knock in 1sts and second and not that much in third. Why would you get more in fourth or fifth?
I just changed out motor mount as drivers was ripped up and checked knock sensor its new one and not in too tight.just hand tight and about 90 degrees turn on it with wrench.Locktited it in there with some blue loctite.
So shouldn't I be able to run 20psi with 12 or so timing and still get near 11 to 1 afr?
I am also wondering used the fp intake tube and big 12 inch k and n but this is not true cold air and no heat shield.Anyone find a good heatshield I could buy that would work in the fp intake and big k and n filter?
Also have 180 stat on order from mits to replace my 195 and will throw in some water wetter. My temps are pretty solid from 185 to 200 today.I have dual fal fans and they are forced on all the time by dsmlink. I have big extreme turbo race intercooler as well.
I am getting pretty tired of trying to tune with our pump 92 and have bought a snow performance water /alc kit and will be installing that shortly.I expect to be able to run 20 to maybe 25 psi with that and get good afr and good timing. My compression think is 8.7 to 1 have .20 over wisecos for 2.4 g4cs engine.
I am pretty sure knock is real knock.I have crower cams and 3g lifters crower springs. Have been keeping redline to 7500 for now.
Car seems fast at 20psi but spool seems a bit slow for a 2.4. I have dsmlink but don't understand this computer stuff that great.I am not sure how to get logs to my computer to post and not sure how to even put the logs into graph form ,I think I need to buy excell spreadsheet program or something?
Otherwise am pretty happy with my 3065.It is a screamer when its boosting even at 20psi with my combo and it does seem to want to pull forever. A 3052 might have been a bit better choice but have experimented with leaning things out during spool and that seemed to help quite a bit.If had a 2.0 would have went 3052 almost for sure.
I also find pretty much need to use nlts to keep the big 3065 spooled up I think.
It does respool pretty fast and top end on the car is very strong.
I also found out that the 3065 in my combo at 20psi in high speed highway play seems too much for even my upgraded brakes.I have hawk hps pads and kvr crossdrillled rotors.I really think I need to buy at least some huge front brakes next season this turbo can get you in trouble pretty quickly and huge brakes would be a good thing!
So overall am pretty darn happy with my car and mod combo. Just want to be able to run this monster at 20psi daily with good afr and good timing on my pump 92.
We might get 94 here sooner or later.
So would like some tips from some of you fp 3065 on what boost you are running,afr and timing suggestions,etc and if you made or bought some heat shield for you intake.

I have my top heat shield off the car also right now.And as you know you can't really use the stock bottom one.
 
I will throw in my $.02 as I'm looking for a little more info as well as suggestions on where to find more power. My setup consists of:
2.0L 8.5:1 Arias/Crower bottom end
standard FP3065
2g manifold
built head (1mm OS valves, ported) FP3 cams
FRH manifold

Car went 11.09@131 the other night. However, it took me almost 35psi to net that mph. I've been reading about guys running 132mph on 30-31psi. However, I don't know if they are running 2.0L or stroker, nitrous or not. With a set up like mine, I am curious what mph I should be seeing or can expect when coming close to maxing out this turbo.

I was running some really shitty 110 from a local gas station that night. I couldn't run more than 15* of timing without knocking. Once the knock started around 6.5k -7k, timing would drop into the 13-14* range. Obviously, next time out I will have some REAL gas with me. Should I turn down the boost and run more timing? Or keep the boost level the same, and slowly try to add some timing in.

I'm also out of fuel pump for the most part. Car leans out pretty bad up top. That will also be fixed by the next track trip.

Any input is greatly appreciated.

Mike
 
Wow I would be happy as heck to get that mph regardless of boost level.That is freaking flying and making big power. I have seen some higher numbers in mph from the 3065 but do think most of them had 2.3s and 2.4s and spray. I have the 2.4 and plan on spray next year so see how my car does. Some of these cars are also lightened up a lot. My car will stay full weight maybe just take out subbox and spare tire and run on 1/4 tank thats about it. Your car is right at the door to the 10s..thats awesome right there.
 
QWK what springs do you run to hit that psi or do you just run no line to the gate.Wonder what the fp3065 would do with no line to gate..what would be max it would go to?
The most pressure combo they offer on the tial 44 is like 20psi but heard you can shim the springs to get higher.Currently I have 1bar springs but wanted to get heavier ones next year and run 22 to 25 on street at least.
 
AL92 said:
QWK what springs do you run to hit that psi or do you just run no line to the gate.Wonder what the fp3065 would do with no line to gate..what would be max it would go to?
The most pressure combo they offer on the tial 44 is like 20psi but heard you can shim the springs to get higher.Currently I have 1bar springs but wanted to get heavier ones next year and run 22 to 25 on street at least.
Running a 1 bar spring. Don't see why you would need a stiffer spring. It holds just fine. I've ran 14-15psi to 8k many times on the street. Car does 12.50@108 at 14psi. On 93 octane and 25psi, the car has gone a best of 122.9mph, but that was leaning on it VERY hard. I couldn't verify my a/f ratio, as the w/b sensor decided to crap out on me that day. My very conservative tune (25psi, 11.1:1 afr), on a 1.87 60', netted me 11.64@119. That's right off the street, pulling shitloads of timing, maxed out around 13*.

I'm running an HKS EVC EZII ebc, and I've got more knob left, but dunno how much boost is left. Curt Brown has run his FP3065 with no line to the gate, and it maxed out around 40psi or so. I don't know where it falls off to, but I've heard he has hit 40psi on this turbo.
 
Updates. I have been driving car a bit and still running around low twenties boost on pump 92 with new snow alc system not installed yet. Hope to up boost once get that in. I also did buy heavier gate springs to make sure can hit 30 or even more when want to. Not likely going to go that high this year until buy new trans, 4 spider diff and new axles.
One question though. I am overally pretty impresed with the combo I have the 3065 pulls like freight train past 4000 or so and is already scary ride at low twenties.

I am wondering though that my current combo is pretty weak off boost. I thought the 2.4 would be a bit of a torque monster down low off boost but maybe I am hurting my low end with crower state 3 cams the 414 or the 280/280 hks equivalent and the jm fab 1g intake .I also used 1g head and 1g ported tb.
So are the cams and smim the reason for this weak bottom end. I realize the FP3065 is pretty big for daily driver. Any tuning tricks to give my car a bit more off boost snap up to 3000 or so. And any tuning tricks to speed up spool time? I have heard run like 14 to 1 in the spool up rpms and think others said take the timing down under the spool up. And some say to up the timing a lot off boost rpms..
Any opinions on this guys?
 
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