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Ghostriderdsm said:
I dis agreed with jl so much... I pop those things like mad.... God with 2 12" audioban subwoofers or 2 12" alphine type x Owned bought yes it's like 900$ PER SUBWOOFER but it's worth it.

AND DON"T GO CHEAP ON AMP OR WIRING KIT
Try using proper English next time. :rolleyes: Audiobahn's are garbage.
 
don't believe i went thru this whole thread but i was iching to see if anyone mentioned anything about the voice coil on the sub. No one mention that if a subwoofer had a poorly designed voice coil, then the sound produced will not be a good as you may hope for. Since i have gone this far i figure i might as well post my thoughts on this matter. Subwoofers are made to reproduce sound. turning electrical energy into sound energy. I have no idea why one person would say that the box is not important as the amp. Or the sub makes no difference as long as the box is good and the power is there. I saw the phrase "the system is only as good as its weakest link" repeated time and time again. It is not hard to understand. If you have a "weak" sub with a perfect built box and a powerful amp. The sound will be good to a certin point. Eg: the max power the "cheap" sub can handle. Then after that it is crap. In the reverse- a "good" subwoofer with an untuned box and a weak amp will also make noise. but the noise will be trash once the amp reaches its limits. Sound is nothing but moving air. The more air you can move, the more sound is produced. Thats just the general idea.

There are also differnt types of sound systems either Sound Quality (SQ) or Sound Pressure Level (SPL) Most people go for SQ.
SQ= clean clear bass
SPL= Hardcore high pressure bass levels (usually at low tones)

On another note. there are reason why subwoofers price range vary so much. Material, built quality, and research on each sub varys.


ALL IN ALL, CAN'T WE AGREE THAT EACH PART IS AS IMPORTANT AS THE OTHER?
 
Mitsu racerX said:
I work at a stereo shop. Its not about the box. Its about the amp pushing it. I've seen "first hand experience" 2 series 1 FG out pushing 2 Solo-baris 10's. Its all about the amp. If ur amp is not delivering the deep low tones that most bass only amps(Autotek,Memphis,Alpine mono amps) can do then ur not producing the tones u want. Also if the amp clips at high bass tones its no good. Also look for at the Siganl to noise ratio. The higher the better..The box can vary for the sound u want to hear.
If you work at a shop you should know better then this. A box makes a WORLD of diffrence. I have had a 50$ sub in a custom box , vs a 300$ Sub in a normal run of the mill box... Guess what , Better Sound and SPL level out of the 50$ sub


On to a note of "best 12"

What do you want for bass , As loud as possible , or are you going for SQ
What do you listen to most of the time.
Is this for you , Or Comp.
Anwser these Questions for me , And i can further assist =)

This is going in ur DSM i assume? You would be surprised what 1 12' can do in a dsm
 
slimgsx said:
for someone who works in an audio shop you really arent that bright. my 1st problem with this post is that it is Solo-Baric not baris. second, how can you say the box doesnt matter, thats just assinine. So as far as you are concerned a sealed box of equal size will hit just as hard as a bandpass or ported box with the same amp running it? Granted a sealed box is better for clarity and "tighter" bass, but if its deep bass you are going for a bandpass will not only be the most efficient but also the deepest. So just to summerize, YES the amp is very important, as is every component in your system, i.e: the gauge of cable you are using, capasitors, amp, sub, box, alt,batt,...etc. basically you should of typed your last sentance and thats it.
Amen
 
I had this one street machine subwoofer... it was only a 10 it rocked harder then most sets of 12's my buddies had.... that little 10" subwoofer was a legend...

Anways.. haha....


I bought a pair of 12s that were Duals... they completely sucked...

Now I have a pair of Visoniks. They hit hard sound good.. and sound alot better then most subs i've heard.
 
alpine type R 12's

JL 12inch w3v2's

boston competition 12's

most and all dual voice coil 12's are descent
 
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