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Asmodeus said:
I have a simple, yet fabulous idea...
All you street racing boo hoo'ers stay out of the kills section.
I'm getting so tired of the granny panty comittee every time someone posts something about racing... :chair:

Its just like TV, don't like what's on? Change the channel...
No need to write the network... or sue McDonalds because the coffee was hot. (yes you are in the same league as those retards, you're coming into a street racing section and wah wah'ing)
:rolleyes:

Nobody wants a lecture about it. We're all big boys here.
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The RSX-S weighs 2,695 lbs. 05/06 a little bit heavier.
A RSX-S with Cold Air intake, not that V2 stuff/ Race header/ exhaust/ Hondata reflash, can take on a stock evo from a roll.
So how is it that a neon engine going to beat it?
Not even those neons with turbo's (SRT-4s) stock that is, can take on an rsx from the roll.

They don't come with LSD.

280 hp is possible fairly easy on the k20 with CAI/Cams/Intake mani(ITB's)/RH/exhaust/k-pro, and that is pretty fast. If you have never been on a high horsepower all motor car, trust me it's fast.

I know as i have a 90 tsi, and i as well have a RSX-S(built motor, turbo)
 
evildocrsx said:
A RSX-S with Cold Air intake, not that V2 stuff/ Race header/ exhaust/ Hondata reflash, can take on a stock evo from a roll.

280 hp is possible fairly easy on the k20 with CAI/Cams/Intake mani(ITB's)/RH/exhaust/k-pro, and that is pretty fast.
Ahhh, bollucks! I find that kinda hard to believe....I mean that is 140hp per liter NA:confused: . Spoon only gets 275 out of their completely balanced and blueprinted S2000 engines....and thats Spoon. I read something about a dude who put a 2.3 Bcrower stroker kit in his rsx and he claimed something like 280hp:rolleyes: . I think these numbers are a little fudged.

I read an article on the Ferrari Modena I think, and it had the record for highest horsepower per liter NA and was something around 120hp per liter. Formula one engines can get 300hp per liter but have to rev to 20,000 rpms and use forced air instead of valve springs for actuation....and at rpms close to what a road car will see, they don't produce any special numbers. I just don't know about those claims as far as 280hp for a 2.0 everyday car? I'm not saying it's impossible whatsoever!!! Just saying I would like some insight.:)
 
Prophecymiller said:
Ahhh, bollucks! I find that kinda hard to believe....I mean that is 140hp per liter NA:confused: . Spoon only gets 275 out of their completely balanced and blueprinted S2000 engines....and thats Spoon. I read something about a dude who put a 2.3 Bcrower stroker kit in his rsx and he claimed something like 280hp:rolleyes: . I think these numbers are a little fudged.

I read an article on the Ferrari Modena I think, and it had the record for highest horsepower per liter NA and was something around 120hp per liter. blah blah blah blah blah blah

Uhh, you're wrong on the highest hp/liter.. Its the 00-03 S2000.. Not a Ferrari Modena..

Also, you must not realize how well k20's take to mods.. A simple intake will make a difference on them.. And with all those mods he just listed, it should be able to hit that mark..
 
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Prophecymiller said:
Ahhh, bollucks! I find that kinda hard to believe....I mean that is 140hp per liter NA:confused: . Spoon only gets 275 out of their completely balanced and blueprinted S2000 engines....and thats Spoon. I read something about a dude who put a 2.3 Bcrower stroker kit in his rsx and he claimed something like 280hp:rolleyes: . I think these numbers are a little fudged.
no, it's believable. some of those cars put out 240 whp, which, given a 20% drivetrain drag, would actually be 300 bhp. but the thing about that (and all hondas) is that to actually use that power, you have to rev it like hell. i mean, the rsx-s/civic si don't even hit vtec til' a lot of cars redline...

I read an article on the Ferrari Modena I think, and it had the record for highest horsepower per liter NA and was something around 120hp per liter. Formula one engines can get 300hp per liter but have to rev to 20,000 rpms and use forced air instead of valve springs for actuation....and at rpms close to what a road car will see, they don't produce any special numbers. I just don't know about those claims as far as 280hp for a 2.0 everyday car? I'm not saying it's impossible whatsoever!!! Just saying I would like some insight.:)
if 120 hp/liter is the record, then honda matched it with the s2000 until they moved up to the f22c. f20c was a 240 hp 2 liter...
 
MacGSX said:
Nothing spectacular, I mean it was only a RSX -S, lol but last night on the way to a car show this RSX pulls up to a red light,(not sure what he had other than exhaust) and starts reving on me, haha. So the Light turned green, I didnt even launch, rolled off the line then punched it, banged 2nd redlined and it was over, he didnt even have a chance. Of course as soon as we pulled into the show, he flew by me like a typical honduh owner. Nothing much just another kill.:tat:
I have to call BS... The RSX is the fasterist car every designed and could no way lose a race. :banana:

Good kill. :)
 
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empie1 said:
bullshit bro...they may not be that quick, but they do have 210hp and some where along the lines of 180 ft/lbs of torque...there is no way your 140hp neon engine would come even close to pulling on a type s, especially with 300 lbs+ of extra weight...this is a pretty lame kill story to begin with, but there is no need for you to make it even worse by jumping in with your b.s. 420a fantasys

Just a coupla corrections....first...the Type-S is rated at 211hp @ the CRANK...figure a 30% drivetrain loss...thats roughly 170hp...now factor in the fact that ALL hondas torque steer like a motherfucker (trust me I owned a modded '00 Si that ran 12s...) it was prolly a fair race...


course without video we'll never know...
 
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HondaDSMr said:
Just a coupla corrections....first...the Type-S is rated at 211hp @ the CRANK.
thanks for that 1 hp correction...i dont give a fuck what any of you say, a n/t eclipse does not stand a chance to a type s...i have owned a n/t and my good friend owns a type s...i have driven both and they arnt even comparable...but if you dumbasses are enjoying yourselves, keep posting your numbers and arguing..
 
unkachabull said:
Umm i can actually i was one of the passangers and it did happen. Maybe he just didn't know how to launched or how to drive and we took him on the launch and went to like 45 before we both shut down. It wasn't from a roll because then we would've gotten owned. Subys have a hard time keeping up from a roll against a type s and so did i when i was stock. From digs they suck though just like most hondas. And he did have another kid in his car kinda looked chubby but not huge. Just thought id clear that up.
you call going to 45 a race????hahahahahahahahahaha...:D
 
Prophecymiller said:
Ahhh, bollucks! I find that kinda hard to believe....I mean that is 140hp per liter NA:confused: . Spoon only gets 275 out of their completely balanced and blueprinted S2000 engines....and thats Spoon. I read something about a dude who put a 2.3 Bcrower stroker kit in his rsx and he claimed something like 280hp:rolleyes: . I think these numbers are a little fudged.

.:)
Bcrower stoker kits ain't shit first of all. Especially for all motor.

Just look up a company called IPS. I'm sure you know who they are, since one of their cars broke into the 9's. And I guarantee you that they have more than 300 hp in their engines. And I'm not telling you that I think or I heard from someone. I know for a fact that they do.

And just for your info: Spoon does not make drag engines. So not only because .....that's Spoon, means they have the fastest engines. Spoon makes road racing/ enduro engines. Which means, incase you didn't know, that they care about a flat torque curve, not to see how much hp they can get out of an engine.

Another thing: How much hp do you think Skunk2 is making? Do you even know what you're talking about when you talk about k-series engines? They make 320hp on their k. And they're not Spoon:eek:

I just though I would share some info on k's for the people that don't know.

Another thing, Yes, they do have a lot of torque steer. but shhhhh!! (in a whisper) don't tell no one. there is this little thing called LSD. (Limited Slip Differential)
 
stillbroke said:
Uhh, you're wrong on the highest hp/liter.. Its the 00-03 S2000.. Not a Ferrari Modena..

Also, you must not realize how well k20's take to mods.. A simple intake will make a difference on them.. And with all those mods he just listed, it should be able to hit that mark..
I clearly stated that I am not saying it is impossible whatsoever!!! My source of information was before the s2000 came out...so yes the Modena was the highest hp/liter na in a production vehicle at the time- I apologize for not having current information since we have to excuse ourselves from the nitpickers. I just wanted some EDUCATED input...not some immature crap that says "your wrong and I'm right"- you are the kind of person that keeps people like me away from this forum- now go ahead and bash me and tell me you don't want me here anyway because I know that is your close minded response...;)

evildocrsx said:
And just for your info: Spoon does not make drag engines. So not only because .....that's Spoon, means they have the fastest engines. Spoon makes road racing/ enduro engines. Which means, incase you didn't know, that they care about a flat torque curve, not to see how much hp they can get out of an engine.

Another thing: How much hp do you think Skunk2 is making? Do you even know what you're talking about when you talk about k-series engines?
No, I don't know much about the k20 and I know nothing about what Skunk2 is making-I just know that there are only certain things you can do to increase the amount of air entering the cylinder without going to FI, that is why I posted asking for some enlightenment...I just think it needs a little more clarification since these figures are on the edge of what street car na engines produce...this is a gray area and thus deserves more scrutiny and questions...just like any kind of technology that's on the edge. And the k20 might seem great, but let's not forget, it still works under the same processes any other piston engine does...

And as far as the flat torque curve is concerned, I somewhat agree other than the fact they build their engines to have more power than a factory s2000 engine, which is already built to put out extreme power/displacement. This would suggest they are not "just" trying to get a flat torque curve, but also max power...I think they would use stroker kits for just a big torque curve.

Now that I've questioned these Honda "gurus", I'm sure there is going to be massive crap throwing now since there are no questions to the k20's potential...excuse me for being reasonable and pointing out the fact that a Honda engine is still a piston engine no matter how much everyone wants to make it out to be something that is not governed by the same physics. :banana:

After all this, just for evidence' sake, post a link to the highest horsepower/liter na engine that you know of that is a street engine-meaning no engines that wrap to 15,000rpm+ or something like that which is obviously not a normal engine like a spoon engine, or skunk2 etc. I could do a search, but this is what forums are for:D
 
You must have used a backhoe to dig this one up.

Not only is everyone jacking the shit out of Jordan's thread, but this thread is like 8 months old.

No one really cares about this thread anymore.

Let the arguement go my friend. :wall:
 
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