Yes before anyone goes off on me I have researched it got a few questions answered. But I have some questions that are unsolved. I just got a 97Gst and since I bought it, it has been nothing but a headache. When I first bought the car it had a bad thermostat. While driving around I noticed the temp drop, took the car back in to get it worked on for over heating. They ended up changing the turbo.. (Please don't ask). Started to over heat again too it back to get the problem fixed. Replaced the head gasket and said the head was cracked. They machined the head and new gasket. Well its only been 1 week since I've gotten it back and all of a sudden I have oil in my coolant again. I have an Injen intake with some hard pipes and no other mods. My question is, what else could it be besides the head gasket.. I'd hate to say I think the repair on the head may not be good. But who knows. The car doesn't over heat and the oil levels change so much I can't keep up. I had the coolant system flushed today and it was still milky after words. I'll re torque the heads tomorrow morning when I get the change. I really don't want to go the head gasket because honestly I've never done one before and I really don't have the money to get it fixed. Any other possabilites? Thank you ~Brian
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Yes before anyone goes off on me I have researched it got a few questions answered. But I have some questions that are unsolved. I just got a 97Gst and since I bought it, it has been nothing but a headache. When I first bought the car it had a bad thermostat. While driving around I noticed the temp drop, took the car back in to get it worked on for over heating. They ended up changing the turbo.. (Please don't ask). Started to over heat again too it back to get the problem fixed. Replaced the head gasket and said the head was cracked. They machined the head and new gasket. Well its only been 1 week since I've gotten it back and all of a sudden I have oil in my coolant again. I have an Injen intake with some hard pipes and no other mods. My question is, what else could it be besides the head gasket.. I'd hate to say I think the repair on the head may not be good. But who knows. The car doesn't over heat and the oil levels change so much I can't keep up. I had the coolant system flushed today and it was still milky after words. I'll re torque the heads tomorrow morning when I get the change. I really don't want to go the head gasket because honestly I've never done one before and I really don't have the money to get it fixed. Any other possabilites? Thank you ~Brian
Seriously, take it back and make them give you proof of what kind of gasket they used and head bolts. I needed my timing belt, water pump, and all my pullies and tentioners replaced. They forgot to put the o ring in the water pump and put gasket sealer. 2 days later I saw fluid leaking from where the sealer was put and flipped out. Hauled ass back to them, hoping the motor would blow so I could sue them and get a 6 bolt for free, and they fixed it for free. It's gotta be your head gasket. In regards to your cracked head, make them show you where it was cracked. You should be able to tell if it's a bullshit job. BTW your oil pressure gauge is going to fluctuate. That's the way dsm's are. Good luck and keep us updated. PS don't let them charge you for shit unless its parts, but make sure they provide receipts.
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Are you sure this is what happened? If so machining it didn't fix a problem. The head is junk if its cracked. Be sure they didn't say it was cracked.BrianP97Gst said:
If it was what they said and what they did. Make them buy you a new head, or at least replace it with no labor cost for being the worst shop ever.
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No doubt this place is the shadiest dealership in Hampton Roads 
, but my bad for not noticing the original thermostat being stuck open :wall: . I'm sure if I replaced it to being with all this wouldn't of happened. As for everything else, yes they said the head was cracked and had it fixed... Come to think about it I've never asked how they fixed it. I'm not sure if retourqing the bolts will do any good and I'd be damned if I take it back there for like the 4th time. Seems like these guys are some back yard mechanics that dont know anything about a DSM let alone any other cars. Hate to see what other peoples problems are. Well I'm going to talk to my supervisor. He's worked on cars his whole life and said I can borrow his garage for a weekend. I'll order new parts for the head gasket job and breath and eat the mechanic book I got. I'll keep you guys posted worse comes to worse I'll have to buy a new head... or get one from a junk yard. ~Brian
, but my bad for not noticing the original thermostat being stuck open :wall: . I'm sure if I replaced it to being with all this wouldn't of happened. As for everything else, yes they said the head was cracked and had it fixed... Come to think about it I've never asked how they fixed it. I'm not sure if retourqing the bolts will do any good and I'd be damned if I take it back there for like the 4th time. Seems like these guys are some back yard mechanics that dont know anything about a DSM let alone any other cars. Hate to see what other peoples problems are. Well I'm going to talk to my supervisor. He's worked on cars his whole life and said I can borrow his garage for a weekend. I'll order new parts for the head gasket job and breath and eat the mechanic book I got. I'll keep you guys posted worse comes to worse I'll have to buy a new head... or get one from a junk yard. ~Brian
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ok will do thank you again. I'm making a little list of things to go out and get.. This is what I have so far,
Copper Gasket Spray
Oem Head gasket (since I dont have the money to deck the head and block read its more forgiving than all the rest)
ARP bolts
anything else? besides the common sense stuff?
Copper Gasket Spray
Oem Head gasket (since I dont have the money to deck the head and block read its more forgiving than all the rest)
ARP bolts
anything else? besides the common sense stuff?
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I had a theory, correct me if I could be wrong. I\'ve been reading threw all these post on head gaskets. And people say a heat cycle period and to retorque the head bolts after this period. Maybe this is why I\'m getting oil in coolant.. What would happen if I just torque that stuff down to 70 foot pounds? Any side affects? If not what other systems share the same coolant and oil passage? I understand the block and head is something to consider... Any ideas?
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Well the Hanes Manuel states 58lbs in order, break torques, 15lbs tighten in order then 90 degrees tighten all then another 90 degrees.. I've talked to alot of people and some people dont think its the head gasket in general. The oil is being pushed into a coolant source. Only 2 other places I can think that is, is the oil cooler (stock) and the tubro itself. The car runs fine no over heating no smoke out the tail pipe.. Nothing just oil in the coolant. I had it flushed at pepboys 80 bucks to coming back to oil in the coolant.. I'm kinda lost and by no means want to go ahead and take the head off for no reason..
I would check the oil cooler as mentioned earlier. If the chop shop didn't know what the hell they were doing, they could have easily cranked to hard on it and damaged it internally causing the mix. The only other causes would be the HG or a crack in the block or head. The oil cooler would be the easiest fix for sure. You could just loop the coolant lines feeding into the cooler and cap the ends on the cooler itself and see if the problem stops. If it does, you could just leave it like that or you could replace the cooler. Mine is capped with no problem and my coolant lines are looped. You really don't need the cooler unless you auto-x.
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Sounds good bro, I hit up a local site and got a guy wanting to help me threw all this. Heck of a nice guy, he told me all I need to go is grab some parts and he'll have a head on stand by. I hope to get this fixed, heck I wish I had the money to throw down on a 1st gen head mod.... stupid divorce LOL
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