Whats better for street use and some high way runs? gt 30 or gt 35 ? is there much of a difference of would you just shoot for a gt 35?
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gt30 vs gt35
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If you don't plan on making more than 500whp, then stick with the GT3076R.
Yeah im not going ova 500 . Yeah high way runs around my area are the thing here. My profile says orlando but im in NY I have to fix my profile up. Newyork we block the high ways and do runs some of are runs we dont shout out the hole we role a bit befor taking off (sometimes) alot of us use are cars everyday so we dont like to abuse our drive train. I launch my car once in a blue
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gt30 FTW, it'll spool up faster like EE said, and it will still pull like a freight train upstairs. Make sure you have everything to support it so you don't blow that mofo up as soon as you get it set up.
BTW, You should definately read over your posts once you're done typing to fix any spelling/grammar mistakes. You're going to get smacked around a bit for that especially if you were already warned.
BTW, You should definately read over your posts once you're done typing to fix any spelling/grammar mistakes. You're going to get smacked around a bit for that especially if you were already warned.
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A suggestion for those with bad spelling. Download Mozilla firefox it may not catch your sentence structure but it will catch your spelling and underline it.
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Remember if you race on the highway like dumbasses you automaticaly become a Icy Hot Stuntaz.
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A 3076r is definitely my next turbo after the 50trim has reached it's full potential. A 35r is an amazing turbo, and most people throw it on because they believe in the bigger = better concept. In reality, a 35r is not a very good pump gas turbo, and it needs a lot of boost to be truly effecient. However, it has a ball bearing center section so it's not truly useless on a 7500 rev limit car. I would expect to see 20-25psi+ in the mid 4k range.
A 35r will definitely test the limits of your stock motor, and will require a huge amount of supporting mods. Without cams, SMIM, 1000cc+ injectors, etc, you will never reach the power potential of a 35r, hence making it useless.
The 30r is still a large power making turbo, but it's at least a tad more conservative then the infamous GT35. It will make power lower in the 4k range, and although it's still most effecient in the 20+ psi range, it is a better choice for a stock block car then the 35r IMO. An easy 400whp can be reached with Cams, Dsmlink and pump gas, although realistically most 400+ numbers will be seen with race gas, a lot of boost and advanced timing.
Want high 11's on the street running straight 93 octane? No problem for a 3076r!
Want Low 11's on the street with a tank full of meth/race gas or E85 and have a built motor/trans ready to spare? 35r for you!
A 35r will definitely test the limits of your stock motor, and will require a huge amount of supporting mods. Without cams, SMIM, 1000cc+ injectors, etc, you will never reach the power potential of a 35r, hence making it useless.
The 30r is still a large power making turbo, but it's at least a tad more conservative then the infamous GT35. It will make power lower in the 4k range, and although it's still most effecient in the 20+ psi range, it is a better choice for a stock block car then the 35r IMO. An easy 400whp can be reached with Cams, Dsmlink and pump gas, although realistically most 400+ numbers will be seen with race gas, a lot of boost and advanced timing.
Want high 11's on the street running straight 93 octane? No problem for a 3076r!
Want Low 11's on the street with a tank full of meth/race gas or E85 and have a built motor/trans ready to spare? 35r for you!
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Wow I was under the impression to not even consider a 30r on a stock block? Sounds like you've done alot of research on this subject.Chicago_DSM said:
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:huh:Chicago_DSM said:
I've ran high 11s on pump in my car with the 35r.. A 30r is more efficient *below 22-24psi* but a 35r is a bigger turbo. Period. At the end of the day, ESPECIALLY doing hwy runs, a properly built 35r would completely sh*t on a 3076.
It all depends on your game plan. The 30r is a good street turbo but the 35r starts getting into the big boy territory.
The 3076 is a 11s turbo the 35r is a 10s turbo. ones a 500hp turbo the other is a 600hp turbo. Both have made more than those numbers, and both have ran ridiculous times but just take a peak at your build and where you want to go in the future.
I jumped from a 50trim sized turbo (V-Trim) to a 35r and a friend of mine scooped up a 30r and he cries and b*tches and moans about how he wished he woulda gone bigger, but at the end of the day I'm sure he'll have a 42R slapped on there anyways.
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My friend went 10.96@129 with a 3082r on 33psi. It would have gone faster but it had junkyard tires and spun through second and the clutch was slipping towards the end of the run. Oh, he trapped 110 in the 1/8th.
A 30r flows only somewhere around 4lb/min more then a 50 trim. Waste of time and money imo to upgrade from a 50 trim to a 30r.
A 30r will be fine on a stock block. You just have to know the boundaries. I run 28psi on pump or race gas with my 50 trim. With race gas I just lean it out slightly and bump up the timing.
I would just get a 30r since you dont want over 500 hp. Do you want a t3 or bolt on turbo?
A 30r flows only somewhere around 4lb/min more then a 50 trim. Waste of time and money imo to upgrade from a 50 trim to a 30r.
A 30r will be fine on a stock block. You just have to know the boundaries. I run 28psi on pump or race gas with my 50 trim. With race gas I just lean it out slightly and bump up the timing.
I would just get a 30r since you dont want over 500 hp. Do you want a t3 or bolt on turbo?
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Yeah, the reason I recommend a 30r for the OP is because I assumed he was on a stock block. Once you start raising the boost into the 35r's effeciency range, you will start approaching the limits of the stock 2g rods or stock 1g pistons.
A 3076r will also make a ton of power, but it's more than likely never going to hit that 500whp mark without 30+psi, which is way too much for pump gas anyway.
Of course a 35r will do high 11's on pump gas, but if that's the case then you are no where near it's capabilities, and you coud've thrown on the 30r and done the same thing.
If you have the budget and supporting mods for the GT35 however, then by all means go ahead and buy it. Just be careful not to push the car too far, experimenting with high boost levels and careless knock detection will result in a blown motor before you have time to think.
A 3076r will also make a ton of power, but it's more than likely never going to hit that 500whp mark without 30+psi, which is way too much for pump gas anyway.
Of course a 35r will do high 11's on pump gas, but if that's the case then you are no where near it's capabilities, and you coud've thrown on the 30r and done the same thing.
If you have the budget and supporting mods for the GT35 however, then by all means go ahead and buy it. Just be careful not to push the car too far, experimenting with high boost levels and careless knock detection will result in a blown motor before you have time to think.
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I personally would go with the GT3082R (aka GT3040R). It's rated for 600hp depending mods and you'll still have that spool and throttle responce. Highway runs aren't lame, any form of street racing is a risk how no matter how you look at it. The same 800+hp supra/import or domestic can cause just as much danger to general public wether or not it's from a dig or 45mph roll. Plus the "closed course"activities he's talking about I've seen before and they definately do shut sh* down. I've seen the vids and attentend a few events. But to the O.P. I'm supprised for a NY person you haven't talk to the guys at "Racing Results or Top Level" I know the do alot of dsm n evo stuff out there.
But to the O.P. I'm supprised for a NY person you haven't talk to the guys at "Racing Results or Top Level" I know the do alot of dsm n evo stuff out there.
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If your not planning on making over 500 between now or the near future then go with the 3076. In a way there's no need for a 500+hp D.D. you have a greater risk of damaging the car driving around being dumb then keeping it at the track, a quick ride to the mall or somewhere and you hit some serious traffic if your cooling system is not on point then your beat , but thats just my .02 cents.
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Really? What part of NY? I've never heard of either.New Member said:I personally would go with the GT3082R (aka GT3040R). It's rated for 600hp depending mods and you'll still have that spool and throttle responce. Highway runs aren't lame, any form of street racing is a risk how no matter how you look at it. The same 800+hp supra/import or domestic can cause just as much danger to general public wether or not it's from a dig or 45mph roll. Plus the "closed course"activities he's talking about I've seen before and they definately do shut sh* down. I've seen the vids and attentend a few events.
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