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I know ill probably get bashed on for this but here it gos...... I have a 94 eclipse 1.8. Obviously I'm not looking for any kind of crazy power, or even a little....its my DD. I just am looking to make a DD that's clean reliable and still has the DSM stance. I currently have, K&N Air filter w/ abs intake and hacked air can, K&N valve breather filter, NGK G-Power spark plugs (one notch down from iridium), K&N Gold oil filter, Quaker state full synthetic HP oil, Goodyear belts.....that's about it, so basically gas efficient with a lil more punch when the exhaust is done.

Now I'm looking to lower it, like I said before I'm not looking for crazy performance just a clean look. I have a friend who just bought a civic hatch, bought eBay coil overs, and had his car lowered the next weekend. Its looks good, like he has a set of Teins. Sooooo I decided to buy a set of Coil over Sleeves from the same people. My only Problem is that i have no clue how to go about this. Do you guys know of any good threads, web pages.....ect? Thanks.
 
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I had a friend who had ebay coilover springs on his car, it looked good but the setup went to shit a week later. You can find them all over ebay. If you do get them tell us how it worked out for you. But i would advise against it :).
 
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Well my struts are already shot, and I already bought the springs, guess this otta be interesting.....ill post pics I plan on doing it this weekend, I'm kinda nervous I'm not gunna lie....but now it may be postponed now that I have read the sticky on seized bolts in the suspension bushings...... may just replace it all at once.
 
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94EclipseOwner said:
I know ill probably get bashed on for this but here it gos...... I have a 94 eclipse 1.8. Obviously I'm not looking for any kind of crazy power, or even a little....its my DD. I just am looking to make a DD that's clean reliable and still has the DSM stance. I currently have, K&N Air filter w/ abs intake and hacked air can, K&N valve breather filter, NGK G-Power spark plugs (one notch down from iridium), K&N Gold oil filter, Quaker state full synthetic HP oil, Goodyear belts.....that's about it, so basically gas efficient with a lil more punch when the exhaust is done.

Now I'm looking to lower it, like I said before I'm not looking for crazy performance just a clean look. I have a friend who just bought a civic hatch, bought eBay coil overs, and had his car lowered the next weekend. Its looks good, like he has a set of Teins. Sooooo I decided to buy a set of Coil over Sleeves from the same people. My only Problem is that i have no clue how to go about this. Do you guys know of any good threads, web pages.....ect? Thanks.
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My hell, do you want to die? Do you know what happens to those after a few days on a car? THEY BREAK. I don't care if your friend had them on his Civic and they look good, DO NOT put them on if you want a safe ride.

Aside from the fact that it's dangerous, your ride will be crap. The sellers of that crap don't research the rates at all. They just cut a spring that will drop your car and will fit on the sleeves that they also don't research.

Aside from THAT, Tein's all that great anyway. They're cheap, and they do their job, but they're nothing special. Unless you buy the ridiculously expensive crap.

I'm not going to give you a link to the install on sleeves like that because I'd hate for you to have your suspension fall apart on you while you're going down the road. But if you are dead set on installing those pieces of crap, there is a VFAQ on how to install the Ground Control coil over sleeves, but I'm doubting that it will help much because I'd bet the parts you got in your ebay coilover set aren't even close to tailored for our cars.

I would accept that you just wasted some money, and then search around more until you find a more reliable alternative. But cheap is never a good thing when it comes to a suspension.
 
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I agree too that you have pretty much wasted your money.

A while back I had shot springs and struts (after 190,00 miles on stock setup) and needed something new. If you're looking for something affordable that actually works, for my beater 1.8 I picked up a set of Arospeed 2" drop lowering springs about two years ago. I installed them on new NAPA shocks and struts and the setup has worked on a daily driver that sees about 125-150 miles a day. About $150 for the whole setup and I have yet to see any serious wear on the setup and it's still tight and doesn't bang you around like crazy.

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Sorry for the shot but this is the only good one I have up close of the beater with it lowered. Believe me it's WAY better than throwing on coilovers.

Sell those things quick and get something that works.
 
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They look fine but they last all of 2 days. My buddy had them on his 240. They went to shit ASAP!
 
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Well I didn't find any reports of people dieing from faulty ebay springs or anything, I'm sure if the case was, they break in 2 days, there would be reports. like I said ride quality it already sucks I don't care its my dd nothing special.....Do you really think there going to break in a week? or even a year? or will they suffice for now and make my car look good?
 
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Just think of it like this man.

The springs cost you what, $60 shipped? Are you really willing to risk your life on springs that cost $15 per corner, on shot struts after not getting an alignment and your camber is off, screwing up your traction to the ground which all combined, CAN FUCKING END YOUR LIFE.

Dont be stupid man, take those springs, put them up in your garage and look at them, thats about all they are good for.

I got a set of Skunk2 R&D Springs to test out for them on my GSX. The shit sagged more than my grandmas tits in less than a month. About a inch and a half and these are more expensive than the crap you are putting on your DAILY DRIVER, the car you rely on for work and back and getting around.
 
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94EclipseOwner said:
Well I didn't find any reports of people dieing from faulty ebay springs or anything, I'm sure if the case was, they break in 2 days, there would be reports. like I said ride quality it already sucks I don't care its my dd nothing special.....Do you really think there going to break in a week? or even a year? or will they suffice for now and make my car look good?
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You know why you never heard about it, because THEY'RE DEAD! Lol.

Look, it's your car, but you honestly have no idea what that ride is going to be like until you do it. I'm warning you, you'll IMMEDIATELY regret throwing those on there.
 
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Ok, I'm not going to died if I install these, but if they go bad in a week then shot suspension in general would suck. The Arospeed with Napa shocks sounds like a good idea for the DD. I went to the napa web page but I have no fucking clue which shocks I should get. If I wanted a setup like I DRIVE DSM what shocks? link?
 
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94EclipseOwner said:
Ok, I'm not going to died if I install these, but if they go bad in a week then shot suspension in general would suck. The Arospeed with Napa shocks sounds like a good idea for the DD. I went to the napa web page but I have no fucking clue which shocks I should get. If I wanted a setup like I DRIVE DSM what shocks? link?
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No. Believe what we're telling you. Your chance of dying putting on eBay coilovers increases by like x1000. They're not made for a specific application. They just create a spring, throw two perches on the ends, and say they fit your car. You don't want something failing on a daily driver if you're traveling 65-70 mph on the interstate and one fails. The result won't be pretty. :( We're trying to protect you.

The shocks and struts I bought are the Monroe whatever kind NAPA has. I work in a shop that gets all NAPA parts at like 40% off, so I was able to snag all four corners real cheap. As long as you don't drive like a retarded dumbass then stockish aftermarket struts and shocks will hold. Not for as long as the correct setup, but they'll work.

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I hate my self, these are only $10 more than the ones I bought :tat: :chair:
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Well the ones in that auction are for a 2g, but I paid about the same amount.

I personally will vouch for Arospeed any day. I've had their springs on two vehicles and don't have one complaint.


I would buy any brand of regular lower springs on a car before I put on no-name coilover sleeves. Your life isn't worth losing it to a $30-$80 eBay coilover.
 
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This is what I found for front http://www.napaonline.com/NOLPPSE/(S(mlkwij45bh2lci45fjgh2cbw))/Detail.aspx?R=RR_94017_0154492099
and for the rear....http://www.napaonline.com/NOLPPSE/(S(mlkwij45bh2lci45fjgh2cbw))/Detail.aspx?R=RR_94178_0154495683

Those have the shortest compressed length of all of them, essentially that would drop my car the farthest right? ....along with the Arospeed 2.5" max drop, I should get all 2.5" yes?

Oh and in that auction, it is for the 1g look at the left of the screen and scroll down it clearly states starting year: 1989 Ending year: 1994


With those shocks and those springs I would have a descent setup for a dd, that's going to stay "tight" for a while and it would cost me about 170 shipped, and I wont die in the first week of installing them......... so this is a much better alternative?
 
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94EclipseOwner said:
This is what I found for front http://www.napaonline.com/NOLPPSE/(S(mlkwij45bh2lci45fjgh2cbw))/Detail.aspx?R=RR_94017_0154492099
and for the rear....http://www.napaonline.com/NOLPPSE/(S(mlkwij45bh2lci45fjgh2cbw))/Detail.aspx?R=RR_94178_0154495683

Those have the shortest compressed length of all of them, essentially that would drop my car the farthest right? ....along with the Arospeed 2.5" max drop, I should get all 2.5" yes?
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You dont want to drop your car 2.5" 1" will suffice for a DAILY DRIVER. 2.5" you will scrape on speed bumps.

I think you fail to understand all the work that comes with lowering a car. You obviously cant afford a good set of springs otherwise you would not be buying a crappy $60 set. When you get springs on the car, you need to make sure the camber is right, which requires a kit. They can go for as low as $40 on the rear and $70 on the front or more expensive for better kits. Then, you need to get an alignment done otherwise your car will not handle right and if you fail to do either, you will start wearing tires unevenly which means, replacing tires as quick as every 5,000 miles. I've seen it. If you run aftermarket rims, depending on width, you will need to get your fenders rolled.

Think before doing.
 
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Im looking for a 2" drop at least remember looks not performance on this car. I dont give a flying fuck if the ride is "bumpy" or whatever. Just as long as it looks good and is efficient, part of which is not wearing my tires all goofy, any one know of a cheap and good camber kit? I'm going to need it after the suspension right? and an alignment....are ether of those possible to do your self?
 
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To give you an idea.

Photos will be in this order.

Stock, Skunk 2 new, Skunk 2 Sagged 1 month later, Eibach Pro Kit on GSX and GST.

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Quality springs make a big difference in the ride of the car, my car feels like its brand new, it rides better than my truck.
 
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94EclipseOwner said:
Im looking for a 2" drop at least remember looks not performance on this car. I dont give a flying fuck if the ride is "bumpy" or whatever. Just as long as it looks good and is efficient, part of which is not wearing my tires all goofy, any one know of a cheap and good camber kit? I'm going to need it after the suspension right? and an alignment....are ether of those possible to do your self?
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You want good looks, dont dump it to the grount, 1 - 1.5 " is more then enough, as seen above.

You dont want a super cheap camber kit, again, cheap isnt quality and quality isnt cheap. Modding cars isnt cheap either.

Alignment you need to get done professionally.

Road Race Engineering has camber kits, JNZ Tuning, look around for quality ones, expect to spend $100-$150 on a good camber kit. Expect another $60-$100 for an alignment and another $200+ for good struts.
 
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