ok heres the story. traded a 90 integra for a 91 gst. well when i first got the car it ran but hardly and had a miss like crazy and the water pump went out and the fpr wasnt hooked up at all. so i changed the water pump, put in new spark plugs, ngk bpr8es to be exact, and hooked up the fpr. well i got the car started once yesturday and it smoked like hell. there is no miss anymore though and i rechecked the timing and its perfect. well my friend brings to my attention the amount of oil running out of my bov which is quite a bit. i took apart the j pipe from the turbo and it was just as clean as it came off the show room floor. the compressor side of the turbo is also perfectly clean and all the intake piping to the turbo is clean. so i have no idea where the hell all this oil is comming from but it only seems to be past the side mount. also when i was sittin in the driveway if i gave it gas it would go to 15psi which is where i have it set, and it would idle back down to about 1500rpm and perfect vaccum but then drop down to about 1000rpm and be at like 9in/hg vaccum. sorry if this seems like an all to familiar problem for some, but i searched yesturday through about 3 pages of stuff and couldnt find this problem. if anyone can help please do. im doing a compression test as soon as i get a new starter, that happened to go out yesturday too.
oil in bov?
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Honestly valve seals seem like they could be more of a culprit then the turbo considering its only on that side of the intercooler.
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Well heres an idea I'd like to get some imput on. There is supposed to be atleast some oil in the intake tract correct? Well what if in my stupidness of going to an 8es plug, all that oil is not being burnt off completely like it would with a 6es plug? Maybe by switching back to the 6es and having a warmer plug more combustion would take place causing all the excess oil to burn off? And with just having the 8es and it not all being burnt off like it should its actually just building up instead. It did get noteably worse the longer it ran. Maybe this may fix the problem? Well off to work, be back around 12 to see if anyone had any input on this idea/concept.
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Yes. Again, this is the part that throws me off.
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Its not that hard of a problem. Common sense would suggest when you had the blown 14b on the car it accumulated oil in the intercooler. Then once the new turbo went on you are getting oil blowing out of it through the UICP.
Clean every thing, and go from there again. Take the intercooler out and swish gas around in it, drain and let sit until dry. Then reinstall. Keep doing it until no more shit comes out and you are just pouring out clean gas.
Because there is NO other possible explanation. There is no other means between the turbo and the throttle body for oil to accumulate in the piping.
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This man knows what he's talking about, listen to him(even though he's repeating exactly what I said....copy cat!!
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Well I have cleaned everything but the intercooler. It is still hanging up dripping out oil. I may just say fuck it and go ahead and get an fmic anyway. From the limited reading I've done it seems like there are more benefits to a fmic other than looking good and power. So I may just go that route. Also I got the new 6es plugs tonight and will be putting those in.
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So you cleaned everything and it's still getting saturated with oil, but no oil settles around the J-Pipe. Wtf?
This sounds totally retarded, but what if some jackass hooked up a line to a nipple on the intake manifold, causing it to accumulate oil, and consequently drain back through the throttle body and intercooler pipes.There is nothing else between the turbo and the TB that oil could possibly come from.
This sounds totally retarded, but what if some jackass hooked up a line to a nipple on the intake manifold, causing it to accumulate oil, and consequently drain back through the throttle body and intercooler pipes.There is nothing else between the turbo and the TB that oil could possibly come from.
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Well for one I never said I put anything back together, just cleaned the piping out and ran some gas through the intercooler and its hanging up still dripping out oil. The only lines hooked to the manifold that I know of are the fpr and the bov. The ones from the throttle body are just ran into eachother. Oh and the pvc valve is hooked into the manifold. Now if this was stuck open I can deffinately see how it would suck in oil thats why I am going to replace that. I've seen what a car with an open pcv does, its enough to make you think the car is on fire. Now my Eclipse didnt smoke that bad, but it had some symptoms like that. And with the pcv open and vaccum/idle it would get worse whick is what the car did. Under boost it would probably lay off, but I had the car at idle long enough it would have sucked in a significant amount. So yet another theory if the ic cleaning doesnt work. All this thinking is making my head hurt..... But nothing like my honda did to me lol.
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Put about 2-3 cups of rubbing alcohol in it, cover both ends, swish it around like your being paid for it, and pour it out. Keep doing this until the alky comes out clean. If after a couple times it's still oily, just invest in a front mount. You need a front mount since your in hot ass NC anyway. How far from Ashville/Enka-Candler are you?
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More twards Greenville area, ECU area. About an hour south of Raleigh. And yea I'm looking for a fmic now, just gonna go ahead and do it when I put the new starter and pcv in and see if it helps much.
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Well for anyone still looking for the answer to this puzzle I have found it. Bad valve seals. Oil was sitting on top of the valves and enough apparently had settled in there with me adding oil that it was enough to fill up the bottom of the manifold and leak down the intercooler piping. So theres the answer. If you ever have oil from the intercooler to the manifold and none from the turbo to the intercooler, its a thought to check out.
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Hate to be the dick, and the bringer of bad news to let you know there WAS another explanation.
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That doesn't explain the reason you would have oil in your BOV or anything else prior to the inlet of the turbo and your throttle body. Anything going through your valve seals goes into the cyl and out the exhaust.
Check your PCV venting diagram, and read about oil catch cans if you're really worried about this. Otherwise from what it sounds like, you just need to get used to seeing things like this on these older DSMs. 10-15 years of normal wear and tear do things like that to forced induction motors. I freaked when I had my Conquest TSi, but as I read about the cars, and the more I understood, things like this are normal.
What other people were saying is right too, a blown turbo seal will cause excessive oil in your intercooler and system. Your solution to oil in your inlet/intercooler system because of valve seals doesn't make sense.
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Ok guys heres the deal. I had ran the car a few days in a row no problem, little smoke at start up but after that it wasnt bad. I added oil to it because there was a little leak under the filter housing. Well after that, I couldnt get the car started, aka starter went bad. So the car sat for almost 2 weeks. That is more than enough time for oil to accumulate over top of the valves which, if enough gets there and builds up, it can run back into the manifold and into the ic piping. When i pulled the intake manifold off, every valve on the intake side was covered in oil and all the way to the edge of the ports. So yes leaky valve seals. The pcv system is fine, the turbo is fine and on another car at the moment with absolutely no problems.
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If you have a blown seal on the turbo, oil will be through the entire ic piping, not just the upper half of it. Don't know how many more times ill have to say that.
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Listen, and don't get offensive. I've read every post that you've put on here so far, but there are some things you don't seem to understand. Any oil dripping from your "bad valve seals" is not going into your intake system, the upper half, back half, whatever you want to call it... Has NOTHING to do with oil getting into any portion of the intake system between the turbo and throttle body, period.
Your PCV system vents into your intake system and that is where the majority of your oil/moisture accumulates and will cause the symptoms you are concerned about. Unless you get an oil catch can expect that to happen.
I don't know what else to say but clean your parts out, and read up more on making your PCV system work more efficiently and cleaner. I'm sure other people will agree with me that oil is not leaking from your valves into your intake manifold.
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Pretty sure the valve seals aren't between the turbo and the throttle body.
What he said, oh. And hate to be a dick, but :lock:.
Its quite apparent you feel you have solved your problem, though your logic is completely ass backwards. So, since you have an attitude and obviously do not comprehend how an engine works, Im going to relieve you of your further flaming. Best of luck figuring it out yourself.
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