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#21 ·
dsmusmc said:
Straight from Kigglys mouth:
The 2g head does accentuate midrange at the expense of top end.
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No I'm replying to 2 idiots now - not just one. Try to take that into account...

Thankfully [Kevin] ended this argument with you for me. Since that is what I said in the beginning and you wanted to argue with me. :rolleyes:

Secondly I respect Kevin. He goes fast and he has his own way to do things. What works for him - works for him and could also work for you. At no point did I say that what you receive from him going to be substandard. Just so that is out there and crystal clear.


What I don't respect is your inability to read what the fuck I write and go on a little vine swinging tirade about a bunch of stupid shit you don't have the first fucking clue about. We're just getting all the intelligent things Kiggly said - run through an idiot filter (you) because of your enthusiasm of where you bought your parts. That someone else [me] made a few remarks about in a BROAD general sense that you cannot seem to comprehend because you are just regurgitating things that someone else said with ZERO knowledge of your own.

Ok me and you are finished.

Next retard.

1 point of static compression makes a LARGE shift in what you can and cannot do on "X" octane fuel. Specifically timing but also in the way the car behaves. Go tune a couple of dozen cars with different compression and it will start to become more clear the impact something like ".7" compression becomes. Until then - STFU. Your intentionally limited (self oriented) view of why the 2g is what it is - and makes the power it makes is, was, and continues to be skewed because you only want to see it the way you think is right. You aren't even worth arguing with, I don't feel like having any more of my brain cells commit suicide listening to you make shit up as you go along - and we're also done.

Or basically DSMUSMC, had you just understood what I was saying in the beginning none of this would be necessary.

And whitebread - put the pipe down, you can't just make shit up - you don't work for Mitsubishi and your crack head theories are enough to make me consider shooting my laptop so I never have to deal with your level of retardation ever again.

Fuck you - have a nice day.
 
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#22 ·
No I didnt buy parts from him and not doing it because OMG its Kiggly its because iv made several emails and calls to them picking there brain why did you choose this over the other and both of them had the same reason. Better off boost HP, torque, didnt chock above 8K like everyone else thought, and over all flowed better when flow benched by them which I was trying to say. So its more like fuck yourself and shut the fuck up and have a nice day retard.
 
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Asmo every one of your posts on this thread have been completely useless and ignorant. Post whoring, which is probably why you have 2600 posts. Let me guess you have a mullet and your other car is a mustang?

You rant on about rally cars and evo valve train when we are discussing port design.
Your posts are complete opinion with no facts to back any of it up. If you dont have any real input then why are you still talking?

I compared evo heads because the evo heads use small ports and look at what they are doing, they dont come with a t25 so your argument about response is irrelevant.

THE 2G HEAD IS BETTER THE THE 1G HEAD IN EVERY WAY. This is FACT not opinion. It has been proven time and time again buy many big names.

You are probably one of those guys who jumped on the "fad" of swapping 1g heads on, and you will defend it in ignorance.

You are unable to answer my question because you lack the intelligence to do so. Yet you claim to know more then kiggly, hmm..
 
#26 ·
Asmodeus said:
Why are you still talking?

:dunno:
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Because im sharing other peoples proof and not opinion.


dsmusmc said:
Straight from Kigglys mouth:
The 2g head does accentuate midrange at the expense of top end.
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dsmusmc said:
The port at the flange is stock size, untouched 2g and last season was on stock size valves. It makes about 1100hp at the crank and peak power with the 2.3l is at about 8400rpm. Yeah it is with big cams, but the head is still working in this rpm range.
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The 2G head saw a power drop off at 8.4K on untouched head thats his meaning of "expense of topend".
 
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Ive seen that post before, i believe he said IF that was on a 2.0l it would have been equal to 9k rpms, most will never see 9k lol. Some good info there dsmusmc.

Sorry and to answer the op's question yes you can run the 2g head on a 6 bolt block, i have done the swap myself. There is very minor machine work needed. The work can actually be done with a hand drill tbh. A drill press would be better of course. The 6 bolt uses 12mm studs and the 2g uses 11mm. Open them up 1mm and your rockin.
 
#28 ·
Settle down fellas, you are making my baby cry!

I say any head can be tuned to make power. It also seems that both heads have there advantages.

Can't we all be a little more civil on this forum? When you resort to name calling it just means you have nothing worthwhile left to say. This is supposed to be informative. Not a pissing match. Debating is healthy to get a good result, anger doesn't get us anywhere.
 
#29 ·
whitebread said:
Sorry and to answer the op's question yes you can run the 2g head on a 6 bolt block, i have done the swap myself. There is very minor machine work needed. The work can actually be done with a hand drill tbh. A drill press would be better of course. The 6 bolt uses 12mm studs and the 2g uses 11mm. Open them up 1mm and your rockin.
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Or if your lucky enough to find the head off a Hyundai Sonota. ;) Some have a 2G head but with 12mm headstud holes already and the combustion chambers are 43cc instead of 47cc for a slight compression bump.
 
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Ive heard about the sonata head and it being a small port bolt on. I didnt know the chambers were different sizes, very interesting, hmmm.

Another interesting fact, I use a sonata intake manifold on my 2g head. The runners are shorter with a straighter entry to the head as well as a larger plenum. A slight upgrade over the stocker and for people that cant find a evo 3 IM.
 
#31 ·
Heres a quick shot before i cleaned it up.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l186/delliott82/Sonata IM/S6300411.jpg

Heres a 2g stocker next to an evo 3.

http://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l186/delliott82/Sonata IM/2gvsevo3.jpg

The sonata is somewhere in the middle. I think the entry angle to the head of the sonata makes it much better then the stocker though. Also the runners are 3" shorter if i remember correctly. Just throwing that out there for anyone swapping a 2g head on their 6 bolt and need and IM anyway. I was able to pick one up for $30.
 
#34 ·
Is that the one off the Sonota? Looks like the one that I pulled off when I got my head off the 95 Sonota.
 
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whitebread said:
Asmo every one of your posts on this thread have been completely useless and ignorant. Post whoring, which is probably why you have 2600 posts. Let me guess you have a mullet and your other car is a mustang?
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I've never found Asmo's posts to be neither useless or ignorant. Maybe harsh and creatively worded for humor, but never as you've described.

Now when you question his post count, I guess by that same logic I have a mohawk and a mullet combination since mine is far higher? I don't have a Mushtang but I have had 2 Camaros so that makes me a ******* too huh?

Asmo has been here since 2002 to acquire those 2600+ posts. His posts are usually well informed and spot on technically.

My suggestion to you is to reconsider your asshattish attitude toward a very venerable member here. How about you take a few weeks to adjust your attitude or find another forum to troll.

Buh bye!
 
#38 ·
FYI depending on the year some 2g heads do not need machining.

Also I consider the bump from 7.8:1 to 8.5:1 pretty damn big, since going from 8.5:1 to 9.2:1 would be considered big.
 
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#39 ·
This thread is open for 1 reason, Kevin (Kiggly) would like to fix some misinformation that he was claimed to have said.

Anyone other than him posting the posts will be deleted with a warning. I will lock this again after he posts.
 
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I don't recall ever saying:
"The 2g head does accentuate midrange at the expense of top end."

The rest of that quote I remember, but I don't recall ever saying the 2g head has reduced top end power. If I typed this, it was definitely not on purpose and I would like to correct wherever I said it. The thing is, I don't think I said it at all. Obviously I would not want to use something I felt limited top end performance as my car is never below about 7800rpm after 1st gear is done. I definitely consider the 8-9.2k range on a 2.3l to be top end. I know some people are doing some testing, but as of now I don't have any solid evidence showing the 2g head is inferior to the 1g head in any way.

Kevin
 
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