if this is not advanced enough please move it. i had a rwd truck before and i loved drifting on dirt roads. only on dirt because it lacked power for street drifting. my question is, how hard would it really be to make my gst into a rwd car? also, how much$$$ it would have to be reliable for daily driving/drifting. yanking on the E-brake imo dosnt feel as......sweet as feathering your smoking(in my case dirt kicking) tires through a turn. im willing to buy a 1g awd if i have to! is it easy as pulling your front axels on an awd? please help!! i really want this to happen.
I WANT RWD!!!
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Maybe you could swap the whole motor and tranny into the hatch. Its been done before. Not with a DSM though i dont think. But i saw somewhere a dodge rampage had a motor up front and one in the bed and ran 10's i think. Also i saw a CRX with a dodge 2.2 turbo with the motor in the hatch. Might be a cool project.
Scott
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Maybe you could swap the whole motor and tranny into the hatch. Its been done before. Not with a DSM though i dont think. But i saw somewhere a dodge rampage had a motor up front and one in the bed and ran 10's i think. Also i saw a CRX with a dodge 2.2 turbo with the motor in the hatch. Might be a cool project. It would be expensive. You would have to have air ducts for the radiator and intercooler plus custom exhaust and a lot of time and money.
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for the amount of money you would spend to convert a fwd dsm to rwd you might as well just buy a used viper for $30k.
Considering the amount of custom fabrication necessary, plus all the modifications you would want to make decent power, it just isn't worth it.
If you were at least starting with an awd you would at least be more than half way there. You could do it with a welded center diff and disabled front drive, but i think reliability would suffer, not to mention that there would still be a lot of driveline losses.
I have a strange feeling you are just a dreamer, but if you are serious, get an awd and go from there.
Considering the amount of custom fabrication necessary, plus all the modifications you would want to make decent power, it just isn't worth it.
If you were at least starting with an awd you would at least be more than half way there. You could do it with a welded center diff and disabled front drive, but i think reliability would suffer, not to mention that there would still be a lot of driveline losses.
I have a strange feeling you are just a dreamer, but if you are serious, get an awd and go from there.
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If you want a severe tail out attitude then all you really need to do is suspension tuning. Stiffen up the chasis and put a huge ass anti-swaybar in the rear and your back end will be swingin twards the ditch before you know it 
Should only cost you a couple hundred $.
Should only cost you a couple hundred $.
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THIS is advanced tech? Seriously come on, this is not advanced, it's stupid. Why in the hell would you want to waste the money to do something useless? If you're beating the crap out of the car senslessly why do you care what the body panels look like? Buy a 240sx or an old Z car and be done with it.
Somebody should remove this thread, it's a waste of bandwith.
Somebody should remove this thread, it's a waste of bandwith.
thanks for your opinion! i guess everyone has one. even though i could care less what you say or think. who do you think you are telling me and everyone on this board that my ideas are "stupid". you really should watch what you say, it might come back to you!! your right though, this is really a waste of bandwith. so is this! http://bis.bc.ca/~dave/nwdsm/members/member.phtml?id=241Nick 92 TSi AWD said:
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You're welcome. That's nice. It's also nice that you didn't do too well in reading comprehension during school. I didn't say that your idea was stupid, you have to reread third sentence and think a little bit (just don't let the pea you call a brain explodegerknme said:
) there sparky. It implied that the activity of drifting was useless. Which it is. Yes it's fun to do when you're screwing around, BUT it does not make for a quicker line. On top of that most tracks would not be too happy with you for screwing around like that. So I'm guessing you want to drift on the street? What happens when that car you didn't expect happens to be in the lane you just "drifted" into? Really responsible.So let me get this straight you want to spend thousands of dollars so that you can slide a car around sideways on public roads while risking the lives of innocent peopele? Yeah really cool.
Oh and your is possesive, you mean you're, as in you are. Have fun in second grade.
[Edited by Nick 92 TSi AWD on 11-22-2001 at 11:29 PM]
ouch! your on fire now! whats with the teachers pet deal? i didnt know this was gona be graded. what are you a traffic cop? have you ever raced on public streets? im sure you have! looks like your morals dont have a say on this one. hey man, really though. chill out on the nit picking shit. your not perfect either.
This one time, in band camp...
This is NOT a technical thread. A technical example of this thread would be "I'm in the process of building a RWD DSM but need help making some calculations on mating a xyz rear end to the abc tranny."
Bottom line, there are TWO RWD's out there that I know of and they both were built by Buschur. They are also RACE cars. It simply doesn't make sense to do it to a street car. If you had that much cash, you wouldn't be driving a 1990 DSM.
Dream on.
This is NOT a technical thread. A technical example of this thread would be "I'm in the process of building a RWD DSM but need help making some calculations on mating a xyz rear end to the abc tranny."
Bottom line, there are TWO RWD's out there that I know of and they both were built by Buschur. They are also RACE cars. It simply doesn't make sense to do it to a street car. If you had that much cash, you wouldn't be driving a 1990 DSM.
Dream on.
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i say buy a 5.0...cheap, can be made fast, and its drifting made easy. camaros will work to. just remember to wear your muscle shirt!
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by the way..in response for the last couple threads...i know drifting really serves no purpose on pavement...i just think its fun and different than a lot of weak drivers with nice cars who cant drive for $hit.
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You can drift ANY setup FF, F4, FR. Just need STIFF rear suspension and some skill. You have to transfer the weight off ther rear (tap brakes) and remove traction from the rear (ebrake, generous throttle). Super Street has an awsome drift article from a couple years ago. I'll scan it when I get home. BTW AWD drifting is easier than FF but safer than FR and looks cooler than both!
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My brother got it and cut all the pics out so half of it is gone. Does anybody have the articl with the "Slide Squad" in it. Flat green 4G civic hatch and a blue 240SX with a sylvia conversion were the main topic in the article but it is useful for everyone.
-Dustin
Does anybody have the articl with the "Slide Squad" in it. Flat green 4G civic hatch and a blue 240SX with a sylvia conversion were the main topic in the article but it is useful for everyone.-Dustin
well first, this thread is FAR from advanced tech. second off..i can attest to it being easy to drift a FWD car. i did it lots of times a couple weeks ago when i tried my hand at road racing for the first time. i had a tendency to hit the brakes in the banked turns...not good. i spun out a total of 3 times in my 5 runs...however i also had some nice tail out drifting that i was able to control as well. Next time i will be better prepared and hopefully know the limits of my car.
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Moved to Gen Tech.
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Ok ok, I've talked to Buschur Racing about this before and was quoted anywhere from $7000-$10,000 and 6-10 months without your car. For that price you can but a Nice MR2, AE86(and of course do a swap), an FC, maybe find a nice deal on a FD, basically any RWD domestic but isn't too new. there is alot of different cars you can get for that much .....but for those that are really into getting their eclipse to RWD....more power to ya.....cause within a couple of years thats what Im heading towards...
Hoping to be the First RSt with RWD
Hoping to be the First RSt with RWD
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Uhm.....its Sauce, not 'sause'.
This thread ranks up there with "Make my car a twin turbo" and "Supercharged/Turbocharge a DSM: anyone done this?".
The point Mr Pickle (gerknme) is that you can drift anything. If all you are looking for is to be able to drift a car, why spend >$10,000 converting your 1G to rear wheel drive? Why not just setup the suspension to do the same thing? My 96 AWD is setup to be an autocrosser/semi-roadracer. In street trim, I can swing my ass end any time I want. Which brings me to point 2.
Point 2 is that a good driver can drift anything. Ever watch Starsky and Hutch? I am not implying that you suck as a driver however maybe you should go try to get your GST to drift somewhere away from people. Hell, watch Speedvision with the SCCA rallies. There are number of GVR4's and 1G in the series that drift like a mofo.
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