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Just wondering why no one (that I know of) has attempted to adapt the Evo's COP setup to a DSM? Is there a difference in the way the ECU controls them since I doubt it's a spark waste system like the DSM's use. I happened to think of this today since I am considering buying the COP setup thats in the classifieds that uses hayabusa coils.


Anyone have any thoughts on this? As if it's not that hard and a better solution i'll just wait and go that route. If it's not realistic and the Hayabusa COP setup is the best option. Then thats the route i'll look at. And in case anyone asks no I really don't NEED this. But everyone I have read about that uses COP claims a smoother idle, crisper response etc. It's not a issue of spark blow out or anything.
 
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Because the plug and play COP ignition setups for DSM's are WORSE than the stock setup without a booster. And most use the Chrysler 300m coils which were not meant to fire off as fast as needed since they were not meant for a spark waste setup. They don't have the dwell time to charge fully. (this is my understanding anyway)

So a setup like in the classifieds using bike coils with a booster or maybe the Evo's OEM COP setup seems like the best ways to go from what I understand.
 
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I know that the stock DSM ignition is good for more power than I ever plan to make on this car. That has almost nothing to do with why I was thinking about changing it.


rich3389 said:
All I know is, EVO guys switch to a dsm coil for a reason.
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I think I heard this from someone else a long time ago. Forgot I guess... And if thats the case I guess theres no reason to look at the Evo's coils anymore.
 
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It was less about big power and more about the engine running a little smoother as I have heard a few people claim with the COP. Plus it gets the coils off the intake manifold, and relocating the stock DSM coils is normally an eye sore. I liked the idea of the bike coils as it makes since that they would be able to keep up better in high rpm's and that they supposedly would fit under the stock spark plug well cover.



This isn't a big thing right now, since I still don't know whats causing that massive vibration. But it's something I was wanting to look into for down the road.
 
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I built and installed the 300m/Intrepid COP setup for my N/A 4g67 setup and noticed nothing but better fuel economy, and smoother acceleration across the entire power band.

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The only thing I could think of, is I could have possibly had bad wires, or a tired OE coil previously.

Using different coil plugs from different setups is an option, and the theory behind the differences on how they work would make sense. From my experience, the Chrysler/Dodge COPs were a decent noticeable upgrade from the stock coil and wire setup. If you're planning on making it yourself, buying a plate of steel form the hardware store, cutting and drilling it yourself, and pulling your own coils from a junk yard and cutting the plug boots to fit your motor, you can easily build a setup for around $50.

I was thinking about using 350z coils, but I couldn't find any, and the cost of buying them online was going to increase my cost by about $100.

Just trying to help and some things to consider because I've been there myself. Not that I was looking to make huge HP on tons of boost, but a cost effective solution to a better ignition system for better dd MPG.
 
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Smooth response, acceleration, and dd manners make this a good upgrade. The fact it does all this and improves power at higher levels makes this a win win upgrade. Its hard to go faster, get better mileage, and be more streetable at the same time. How hard is the install. If its easy then this seems like a no brainer at 50-100 dollars
 
#19 ·
It doesn't improve power at higher levels. The stock DSM coils are a better coil unless you use an ignition system on top of them. However an ignition system with the stock coils is one of the best setups to run.
 
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