Is anyone using the Punishment racing fmic? What do you think of them?
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Punishment racing fmic kit for 1g
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Tap the compressor housing, use the threaded hole near the compressor outlet.
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Just looked at a 14b sitting beside my comp and it doesn't go all the way through on mine so guessing your gonna have to drill/tap it.
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Drill and tap.
I did it in the car, I stuffed a rag in the compressor outlet while drilling and cutting the threads, slowly pulled out the rag to make sure that I didn't loose and drill shavings into the compressor. After I had the rag all the way out I blew compressed air through the compressor inlet to make sure all of the shavings were out. I ran the turbo 2000 miles afterward with no problems. Just be smart/careful and you won't wreck your turbo.
I did it in the car, I stuffed a rag in the compressor outlet while drilling and cutting the threads, slowly pulled out the rag to make sure that I didn't loose and drill shavings into the compressor. After I had the rag all the way out I blew compressed air through the compressor inlet to make sure all of the shavings were out. I ran the turbo 2000 miles afterward with no problems. Just be smart/careful and you won't wreck your turbo.
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I'm just doing a little research on this kit and came across this thread. For a quick answer, that threaded hole that people are using for a boost reference, that hole is actually used to secure the OEM oil feed line to the turbo. So, if you are using the stock feed line, you canNOT use this location for a boost source.
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The price is pretty high for this intercooler, anyone know how it compares to the VRSF 1G front mount?
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What! how did you keep yours? it has to be more then a tight fit.lol.... i have this same kit and ran 12.7@109-18psi on a evo 16gI have one and I love it, its a tight fit but I dont have to ditch the foglights.
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I also would like to know what people think of this kit as opposed to the VRSF kit?
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I'm currently installing the Punishment kit in my friend's 1992 AWD, and so far, I really prefer how my VRSF kit went in.
His car has A/C, so the little tabs that are supposed to be mounted to the sheetmetal in front of the radiator will not work (the sheetmetal is a silly place to mount the intercooler anyways, because it doesn't really allow for touching up the mounting angle if you don't drill the holes perfectly the first time). The A/C tanks have little pipes/tubes that extend forward an inch or so and contact the intercooler, so it will need to be mounted forward a bit for A/C cars.
I prefer how the VRSF kit had mounting tabs that attached to the studs from the bumper support...just drill a hole in each tab, and they are flexible enough to move the core around a bit to make it perfectly level. We are going to weld on some aluminum tabs and mount the PR core the way that the VRSF core goes on.
As others have said, the ABS unit gets in the way and needs to be shoved back a bit. We didn't experience any BOV clearance issues as far as the hood is concerned, but unfortunately the BOV flange's surface is not perfectly level (I don't know if that will cause a sealing problem, because it seems to be OK around the hole...we're just gonna use plenty of silicone for a gasket to be safe).
Because we're moving the whole core forward a bit, I don't think we're going to need a shorter alternator belt, we're not that far yet in the installation to comment.
My VRSF kit had none of these problems (I don't have A/C, so I can't comment on how it would have fit with that), even with my stupid giant ABS unit, the piping got around that fine. I also prefer how the VRSF intercooler end tanks had long pipes that extended into the engine bay rather than the little stubs on the PR kit.
Overall, the VRSF kit just seems to be more thought-out than the PR kit. I'm not saying the PR kit is bad by any measure, but if the VRSF kit is available (big IF), go with that IMO.
His car has A/C, so the little tabs that are supposed to be mounted to the sheetmetal in front of the radiator will not work (the sheetmetal is a silly place to mount the intercooler anyways, because it doesn't really allow for touching up the mounting angle if you don't drill the holes perfectly the first time). The A/C tanks have little pipes/tubes that extend forward an inch or so and contact the intercooler, so it will need to be mounted forward a bit for A/C cars.
I prefer how the VRSF kit had mounting tabs that attached to the studs from the bumper support...just drill a hole in each tab, and they are flexible enough to move the core around a bit to make it perfectly level. We are going to weld on some aluminum tabs and mount the PR core the way that the VRSF core goes on.
As others have said, the ABS unit gets in the way and needs to be shoved back a bit. We didn't experience any BOV clearance issues as far as the hood is concerned, but unfortunately the BOV flange's surface is not perfectly level (I don't know if that will cause a sealing problem, because it seems to be OK around the hole...we're just gonna use plenty of silicone for a gasket to be safe).
Because we're moving the whole core forward a bit, I don't think we're going to need a shorter alternator belt, we're not that far yet in the installation to comment.
My VRSF kit had none of these problems (I don't have A/C, so I can't comment on how it would have fit with that), even with my stupid giant ABS unit, the piping got around that fine. I also prefer how the VRSF intercooler end tanks had long pipes that extended into the engine bay rather than the little stubs on the PR kit.
Overall, the VRSF kit just seems to be more thought-out than the PR kit. I'm not saying the PR kit is bad by any measure, but if the VRSF kit is available (big IF), go with that IMO.
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^^ not a good comparison, as the A/C causes most of the issues with the PR core. I took out the A/C and Cruise control, but i was planning on ditching them anyways, and the core fit just fine. If i wanted to keep either though it would have been a pain in the ass. I was also able to keep my power steering cooler and oil cooler. For the price, the punishment kit offers nothing over the CX racing kit other than support from Punishment Racing, which to my knowledge is pretty good, and was worth it to me to order from PR.
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How is it not a good comparison??
Some people want to keep their A/C, and the VRSF kit is better suited for that (and almost everything else).
There are plenty of other issues with the PR kit than just the A/C.
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Extremely well done comparison between the two. Great job.
I too prefer the VRSF kit. VRSF FTMFW!!
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It's not a good comparison as far as ease of installation, as he did not have A/C in the VRSF car. If he had, that would make it a more direct comparison, as the A/C in my car caused most of the issues I had with my punishment kit. If I had no A/C I would have had almost no issues at all installing the punishment kit. I do like the idea of longer piping from the intercooler end tanks though. It works both ways, though...I don't have ABS, so I can't say how the punishment kit fits with ABS. I'm sure others can.
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Just wanted to chim in here (i know this is a old thread but I am researching a bit because I am about to install one) If you have a Automatic, you will need to relocate the A/T cooler. I am going to be running a side mount trans cooler for mine
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