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pathetically high e.t.'s?

13.7 can be done stock, and this is done w/ less boost than a stock dsm in most cases.

unless you drive funny cars or you have always driven atleast a 10 sec car your whole life, you should shut your mouth. any knowledgeable person would consider that fast. since speed is all relative, and a 13.7 is faster than 99% of the cars on the road today, i would say the stock ttz is relatively fast, now add to that 100 hp (roughly 85 rwhp more) and you really sound ignorant yourself.

remember, ignorance is also relative, so don't be so sure of yourself.

i would also say 5 sec. 0-60 is good for a car that DOESN'T have awd, plus the anti-squat rear geometry.

he wasn't talking about 0-60 anyway, more like 60 to 160.
 
NewB2DSM said:
Umm im sorry man, i dont think it was a TT and you still got toasted, Ok one thing as one other person pointed out YOU CANT see the turbos man they are at the bottom of the car and then they are hard to see, 2 highway that car can take anything i mean anything even vetts zo6 at stage 3, and one more thing when he came flying by you, you said he was smoking bad due to oil leaks if it was a turbo, thats well bad b/c as you know turbo need oil to cool, so if it was a turbo take one of them away for it smoking so you got a 300zxT at the most =) and you people im sorry are dumb, i would love to see a DSM (talon,eclipse) take a 300zxTT sage3 or even 2, my brother is stage 2 and close to 400hp (flywheel) so about 340 330rwh im sorry iv seen him take a z06 when a DSM does that tell me and tell me the stage you are!

Now the funny part i was a talon tsi 1g, but im not expecting it to be fast, i know they are not slow but i know im not going to take my bro's 300zxTT, Sorry i just dont think you guys can take a TT on the highway. correct me if im wrong and telll me what you are running..
Damn, your an idiot. Stages? HAHAHA... that's like a drug dealer saying his pills are double stacked. Or his weed is bomb when your really cant tell. Stages are just marketing. Stage for what company? You get what I am saying? A stage is just bull and makes you look like a idiot. You can take a TT supra or 300z. Your right traction is hard and wheel hop is a itch! But a 300z is no match to an AWD dsm from a launch. Supra and 300z lose all the time at the runs out here in cali. The launch of a 300z compared to a AWD DSM is like a slingshop to a catapult. On highway yes it would be hard for an AWD but simple for a FWD. I don't believe your bro beating a z06, prove ME wrong. Let's see some footage.
 
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DarkstarGSX

Damn, your an idiot
We dont allow name calling on this board. Please choose your words more carefully.

:)
 
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first, poweredbyhks i never said it was imposible. just with a stage 2TT and a lightly moded gsx or gst, to me i dont see it happing easy, but i could be wrong.

Now for darkstarGSX sorry man i hate being mean but you are a FOOL!! ok the stage thing if you go by stillen stage 3 you have like 800more hp, but not still this is the 300zx site sorta stages stage 3 would be intake, exost(sp), ecu and boost controller. stage 2 witch my brother is, is intake, ecu and boost jets (15psi) and gutted pre cats. Ok now the gxs would tear a TT up from a stop light but then by 2nd gear the TT would be pulling hard. My bro took a gst on the highway from 60 and well it was sad sorry to say (looked stock maybe exost(sp). Now for the zo6, sorry its true man, footage of it no i dont have, and well it was his freinds TT he is stage 3 (intake, exost, ecu, boost jets 13psi) was with him getting on the highway and see a yellow z06. So he gets up next to it doing 60ish, waits for the glace and the vett droped gears so he did the same to 3rd. From that the TT pulled pretty good on the z06, then by 4th it was over, at about 120mph in 4th he shut it down. Well i have no proof of this storie but what i just said and iv heard many people taking down a z06 on the HIGHWAY with a stage 2+ or 3 ZTT. Ok now for your rebutal, b/c i know its coming. you prove me that a GST can beat a TTZ on the highway. i know that a gsx will beat a z or supra from stoplight to stoplight im not arguing that but you guys dont know is that the z and supra are the highway machines. doing 100mph in 3rd gear is just well weird to me and then like 150 in 4th or so probly like 140ish but yea then up in 5th to 196.3mph if you have the power this is was a stock tranny will stop at. Sorry had to add that one in there. ok your turn to diss me.
 
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no

he is right, i have heard of z06's losing to stage 3 z's from a roll.

NOT saying it always happens, but I'm pretty sure it has. No, I don't have a video either, but do you have one of a dsm taking a stage 3 z from 60-160? I'd bet not.

Stages are from sgp racing. They are pretty accurate, depends on the car, but I wouldn't say they would be more than about 10rwhp off. They are not b.s., that is how a ttz is rated. Just like everyone here talks about running boost in the 20's.

Let's see a gsx take a stage 3 ttz with them both running 15 psi.

not gonna happen.
 
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mkddoc said:


Let's see a gsx take a stage 3 ttz with them both running 15 psi.

not gonna happen.
Both running 15psi??
OK..

Let's see a gsx take a Stage 3 ttz with the Z disconnecting two spark plug wires and one turbo.

Its gonna happen. :)
 
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BadDSM said:


Both running 15psi??
OK..

Let's see a gsx take a Stage 3 ttz with the Z disconnecting two spark plug wires and one turbo.

Its gonna happen. :)
Now thats just silly.

Since when did the 300ZX become the unbeatable performance car?
 
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NewB2DSM said:
Umm im sorry man, i dont think it was a TT and you still got toasted, Ok one thing as one other person pointed out YOU CANT see the turbos man they are at the bottom of the car and then they are hard to see, 2 highway that car can take anything i mean anything even vetts zo6 at stage 3, and one more thing when he came flying by you, you said he was smoking bad due to oil leaks if it was a turbo, thats well bad b/c as you know turbo need oil to cool, so if it was a turbo take one of them away for it smoking so you got a 300zxT at the most =) and you people im sorry are dumb, i would love to see a DSM (talon,eclipse) take a 300zxTT sage3 or even 2, my brother is stage 2 and close to 400hp (flywheel) so about 340 330rwh im sorry iv seen him take a z06 when a DSM does that tell me and tell me the stage you are!

Now the funny part i was a talon tsi 1g, but im not expecting it to be fast, i know they are not slow but i know im not going to take my bro's 300zxTT, Sorry i just dont think you guys can take a TT on the highway. correct me if im wrong and telll me what you are running..
I would just Love to meet ya on the road. U can see my mods at my site. :D
 
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the orignal story doesnt make sense

the DSM had him from a roll the first time they went out, and then suddenly gets blown away even though he was in the lead the 2nd time.

it's not like an awd which stars slowin down at higher speeds, it was a gst...

no-one elses suspects nitrous?

can't the nitrous bottles let off some sort of purge smoke or something?

whoever wrote this kill story, was it blue smoke?!

/me thinks nitrous was on the 300zx

-aaron
 
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NewB2DSM said:
ok the stage thing if you go by stillen stage 3 you have like 800more hp.

ok your turn to diss me.
Wow that's even worse than the Honda guys claiming their headers add 50 :p

Man you would get more respect on this board if you actually made some sense instead of sounding like a 12 year old who just discovered the internet.
 
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ntexdsmracer your car is sweet, and yea i dont have a fast car yet but im getting a 90ish talon tsi, But if you would meet my bro on the highway by then he should have his full 3" exost(sp) fuel and boost controller (not dumb boost jets) no cats or pre cats, lightend flywheel, and i think thats it besides new clutch but that dont add hp. he has all this stuff onthe way and some sitting just not put on yet. I love your car though very nice, could do with out the huge folglights but on your car looks pretty nice.

and plz dont think im an a$$, i just have first had experiance with the TTZ, and seen them in action. Yet to ride in or drive a DSM besides my freinds 3000GT vr4 and well its slow for 320hp but very good off the line, unlike the z's and supras. my opion and i have no disrepect to dsm b/c i am going to get one, and i know how fast they can be, my freind cobra got smoked by a 2g talon, but what highly moded b/c it also beat his nova
 
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Bluntdogg
im just saying that the stillen stage things are off,
and not very acurate but is a good thing to look at when doing mods sorry if that wasnt sarcastic to you.
 
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LOL... I could tell you that a team in oakland california raced a heavily modded supra tt and spanked it by like 2ish cars. The supra hooked up, launched well and didnt shift like a idiot either. The GSX has a 16g, 660s, some other little work as well. Imagine a GSX with 20g, full race head, stock bottom end and a built tranny. I see that smoking the shit out of a stage 3TT. Sorry but your super car belongs on the dyno or the highway. Later...
 
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Man i said HIGHWAY and then i said i know that a GSX would kill it from a stop. i Know this man but they wount take it on the HIGHWAY. ok im stoping posting on this one you guys can flame me all you want i dont care, next time you see a TT supra or Z race it ont he highway, then post here. and plz dont be moded highly and race one stock, but even then post, b/c you wont win by alot if he is a good driver and well then you can race this!!

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blah blah blah...newb...you do NOT have first hand experiance with a 300zx tt..your BROTHER Does..im sure his car feels REALLY SUPER FAST to you, since you dont even own a car yet. you claim your brother beat a GST on the highway yet you dont even know if he had an exhaust? how do you know it was a GST then? hell maybe it was a New Beetle and not an eclipse after all. And your whole post on both cars running 15 psi is ignorant..ones a 6, and ones a 4, the Z has 2 turbos, the DSM has one. so i dont see where boost pressure is even relevent (also, boost pressure is irrelevent even with the same type of car, for instance a DSM with stock turbo and intercooler running 20 psi will be slower than a DSM with a 16g and a FMIC running 15 psi. If you dont understand that, then please read up on how Turbochargers work.) The pic of the 300zx you posted is a really nice example of a worked Z..600 at the wheels is DAMN impressive, but again, there are DSMs with more, lots more. basically i think this whole pissing contest is kinda dumb. you dont even know all the facts about what you raced and yet you claim that DSMs cant beat "stage 2" z's from a roll...which you said by the way while im on the "stages" subject that "stage 3" is "intake, exhaust, ecu, boost jets 13psi" yet you also say in the same post that "stage 3" makes 800 HP, and yet the one you pictured only makes 600 HP..what stage is that?? ok im done. just had to rant a bit.
 
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First thing first I didnt post about both runing 15psi, and i know first hand, he is my brother i get to drive it fool, oh and the 800hp thing well that was a joke look at the stillen catalog and look at the hp gain you get for small things. Second I know alot about cars well alot about the 300zxTT and im learning about the DSM's iv learned alot about them in the past 4weeks, ill get flamed for that. And im not dumb fool, when did i say i never knew if my bro had exost(sp)?? Iv help him install everything he has done to his car!! i even helped with the 60K on it and that is a bitch trust me. So if you think im still dumb that cool. And the hole 6 and 4 cyliner thing you metion and the 2 turbo too 1 turbo, does this really matter?? a car is a car, i know that they are not the same class and all, but like one guy said lets see if the TT can win with 4 cyliners and 1 turbo come on man. Ok my rant is over and well if there are GST or GSX with more hp thatn 600 at the wheels w/o nos, show me them Oh and MUST be street legal!
 
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ok sorry i did misquote you on the 15 psi thing. about the exhaust i was referring to the exhaust on the eclipse, from this quote by you "My bro took a gst on the highway from 60 and well it was sad sorry to say (looked stock maybe exost(sp)" and about a street legal DSM with over 600 HP...uhh theres one on the COVER of this months turbo magazine..name John Shephard ring any bells?
 
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Ahh yes, iv seen that one i think at work, Thats a nice one i agree. Oh and the hole gst thing i really didt get a good look at the back, if you know what i mean, But i know it wa a gst b/c the little badge on the back that says GST, and i really didnt look for exost just the gst badge, now i know that sounds dumb i didnt see the exost b/c most are like 3.5' tips but i really didnt look b/c i wasnt drving and he was on the right side of the car you understand? Oh and the hole 600hp thing you have to atmit there are only a select few who have that outragesh numbers.
And here i will make ends meet or try to, both of these car both the TT and the GST are very nice for what they are
GST and GSX good off line and gst better on highway that the gsx and both get good 1/4 times.
TTZ just well has really high topend and sorta blows of the line but once its going its fast.
I would like to see these cars race with the same hp or about, from stop and highway, to see how much gear ratio's make a differnce.

Oh and that Z i posted has a few vids of him running around canada, ill try and find the site i got them from and post them here. Thanks to all who read this one going agrument but im settleing that it all depends i still thing the TT's are the king of highway and the DSMs for stoplight to stoplight and some rolling starts. But thats just me I might prove myself wrong when i get mine. Also i got a quick question the 16g turbo, is it hard to install your self?? yep im already thinking of mods and i have to wait 4-5 mounths b4 i can get one.
 
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