So my car stopped running whats new, well it ran and i sent it to the mechanic for an oil leak and they now tell me the motors blown and it has 0 compresssion in all the cylinders so he says it must have jumped time, (well apparently it jumped time over at the mechanic) so i got a non-turbo motor ive heard of people using that motor, If anyone can help in telling the differances between the two id appreciate it and how it will affect my car in using that motor.
What would be the downfall in using a NON-Turbo motor
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So my car stopped running whats new, well it ran and i sent it to the mechanic for an oil leak and they now tell me the motors blown and it has 0 compresssion in all the cylinders so he says it must have jumped time, (well apparently it jumped time over at the mechanic) so i got a non-turbo motor ive heard of people using that motor, If anyone can help in telling the differances between the two id appreciate it and how it will affect my car in using that motor.
what year do you have? What model? Dude, we cant tell you anything until we know what you have, there are many different engines, drivetrains, and models of dsms. You lost timing. That sux, but I cant tell you what engine you should be running until I know what car, year, make and model you have now and what they are trying to give you.
Then we can help.
Then we can help.
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its a 1991 talon tsi fwd, 3in exhaust, k&n flter, manuel boost controller, drag coilovers(garbage dont buy these if u want to drive ur car) afc & injectors- not installed
its a 1991 talon tsi fwd, 3in exhaust, k&n flter, manuel boost controller, drag coilovers(garbage dont buy these if u want to drive ur car) afc & injectors- not installed
oh geez.
Bro, if I were you, I'd look around on dsmtrader.com for a 1g engine to drop into your car and sell the N/T engine.
Because it looks like you have about 1300 in mods, not including the coilovers, and you'll get more on a turbo'ed engine than that N/T engine. Unless you're gonna turbo it...
I assume you salvaged your turbo from the dead engine and the tb/intake manny? you can sell those and make some money.
If you don't have a use for the S-AFC and injectors, leme know... I might buy em.
What size injectors?
Bro, if I were you, I'd look around on dsmtrader.com for a 1g engine to drop into your car and sell the N/T engine.
Because it looks like you have about 1300 in mods, not including the coilovers, and you'll get more on a turbo'ed engine than that N/T engine. Unless you're gonna turbo it...
I assume you salvaged your turbo from the dead engine and the tb/intake manny? you can sell those and make some money.
If you don't have a use for the S-AFC and injectors, leme know... I might buy em.
What size injectors?
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if your turbo engine is blown. Could you replace it with a non turbo engine, and add stronger rods and lower compression cams to it? This assuming the intercooler, turbo, bov and everything else are left intact to be used on the non turbo.roadpie4u said:
Lets first start with something we know.
I really doubt your motor is bad. Take your head off and look at it. If you jumped timing, you should have some bend valves. Thats it! Dont believe the first thing the mechanic tells you. At the most, you might need new piston rings.
Just tell the mechanic you want to see it.
Go up there and look at the head off of the car.
You can tell if the valves are bent. (they dont line up straight)
If this is the case, pay for the labor and take the head to the machine shop. Tell them to fix bad valves if any and resurface.
Buy a new oil pump(front case) and have mechanic install both parts(change timing belt and water pump also) This is only if you cant change these parts yourself. Go ahead and buy new rings also. While the pistons are out, have them hone the cylinder walls. Now, you shouldnt have any problems. Just please dont believe everything the mechanic says. They are only trying to steal your money.
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if your turbo engine is blown. Could you replace it with a non turbo engine, and add stronger rods and lower compression cams to it? This assuming the intercooler, turbo, bov and everything else are left intact to be used on the non turbo.
If you really want to change the motor, you can use either or. The only differences are:
NT has no oil jets(they can be added)
pistons are higher comp.
along with injectors, cams, knock sensor
little stuff like that.
As for the low compression cams?
What in the hell? I have never heard of that in my life.
You must be talking about the duration of the cams, or
the compression of the pistons.
The rods are the same.
block is the same.
crank is the same.
As for your motor problem, good luck
Hope this helps
I really doubt your motor is bad. Take your head off and look at it. If you jumped timing, you should have some bend valves. Thats it! Dont believe the first thing the mechanic tells you. At the most, you might need new piston rings.
Just tell the mechanic you want to see it.
Go up there and look at the head off of the car.
You can tell if the valves are bent. (they dont line up straight)
If this is the case, pay for the labor and take the head to the machine shop. Tell them to fix bad valves if any and resurface.
Buy a new oil pump(front case) and have mechanic install both parts(change timing belt and water pump also) This is only if you cant change these parts yourself. Go ahead and buy new rings also. While the pistons are out, have them hone the cylinder walls. Now, you shouldnt have any problems. Just please dont believe everything the mechanic says. They are only trying to steal your money.
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if your turbo engine is blown. Could you replace it with a non turbo engine, and add stronger rods and lower compression cams to it? This assuming the intercooler, turbo, bov and everything else are left intact to be used on the non turbo.
If you really want to change the motor, you can use either or. The only differences are:
NT has no oil jets(they can be added)
pistons are higher comp.
along with injectors, cams, knock sensor
little stuff like that.
As for the low compression cams?
What in the hell? I have never heard of that in my life.
You must be talking about the duration of the cams, or
the compression of the pistons.
The rods are the same.
block is the same.
crank is the same.
As for your motor problem, good luck
Hope this helps
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All that stuff can be swapped. I used an NT block, and it works just fine (it took long enough, but it does ). The only difference is the oil squirters in the turbo block and the pistons. You can get a complete turbo engine pretty cheap if you look around. IT will probably be more reliable in the long run. The NT block needs lower compression pistons if you keep it turbo (there's no reason not to). Whatever floats your boat I guess, because I'm too tired to make any sense, or argueroadpie4u said:
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Now that I think about it, 0 compression seems a little fishy. I could believe something higher, but that's just ridiculous. If the mechanic f*ckecd it up, it's his responsibility to fix it, and there's a lot you can do to make him do so.
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well definitly its the mechanics fault but the car originally had lo compression and ive got so sick and tired of this car i got an all wheel drive one instead many people say im stupid to even fuk with these but i do so if i put hte non turbo engine in will it boost up and can i just sell it or will u notice a big differance
well definitly its the mechanics fault but the car originally had lo compression and ive got so sick and tired of this car i got an all wheel drive one instead many people say im stupid to even fuk with these but i do so if i put hte non turbo engine in will it boost up and can i just sell it or will u notice a big differance
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I dont understand what the point of that was. This is dsmtalk.com. This is not teamnabr.com. Please do not criticize on how a post is written. Not everyone in this world can type 100% perfect. As for comprehension, not everyone in this world has a college degree. You must understand this.
One last thing. Everyone is not created equally.
Just my .03 cents.
Got tired of seeing everyone giving 2 instead of 3.
I forgot to mention that if one cannot understand a question, how can they give an answer?
One last thing. Everyone is not created equally.
Just my .03 cents.
Got tired of seeing everyone giving 2 instead of 3.
I forgot to mention that if one cannot understand a question, how can they give an answer?
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Alright I don't have any hardcore technical knowledge to back this up but I'm gonna give it a shot anyway. If this were my car and my wallet I'd find a nice clean turboed motor or at least one that could be fixed up with a reasonable amount of money. Think about it in layman's terms. A car that came turbocharged from the factory has all the factors of forced-induction all ready taken into consideration like lower compression and better lubrication. You could do it with a NT engine if you really wanted to but it's more difficult so why not save yourself a headache and have it already done for you. Plus, if your turbo and intercooler from the other engine are shot for whatever reason, you are basically starting from ground one anyway.
I don't think one needs a college education to make a post with proper puncuation. It takes an eighth grade education. I, and other readers of a topic are not asking for PERFECT grammar, but when a sloppy post is made, it reflects on the level of work it took to make it. The knowledegable people on this board of which their are many have little time and they probably, or will not help a person who doesen't take a few extra minutes to make the a post as comprehensible as they can. Their answer is substanionally more likley to be answered and in a much more timly fashon.Talon318 said:
If the posts made by the origional poster are to the best of his/her abilities, I apoligize. HOwever, I feel that a simple spell checker could help even the most educationally challanged.
More simply put, it is impossible to help someone when you can't tell what they are saying.
I agree.
I just dislike the fact that people are getting hell for not posting 100% perfect. I work at a dealership and I know half of the guys can barely use computers. But they can sure fix a car.
As for motor, good luck.
Just make sure everyone can understand what you are asking.
peace.
I just dislike the fact that people are getting hell for not posting 100% perfect. I work at a dealership and I know half of the guys can barely use computers. But they can sure fix a car.
As for motor, good luck.
Just make sure everyone can understand what you are asking.
peace.
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