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About to make the biggest decision of my young life....Big16g or FPbig28

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#62 ·
i think you can safely say that anyone with FWD and the Big 28 will have traction issues unless there running slicks.. With the boost set at 16psi which is as low I can get it to go I can spin my wheels through 2nd gear with brand new Kuhmo Ecstas.. my mods are all on my webpage which is in my sig..
 
#64 ·
Re: Re: ok, ok, no need to get mad

ProjectGSX said:


That certainly does not explain why people with Big 28's are running more boost on pump gas than Big 16G users.
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Ummm, that means relatively nothing. It's all in the tuning, everyone knows that. I used to run 21psi daily (did it for 6 months straight) on my Big 16G - big deal - anyone that can tune can do that.

I still don't see why this thread is still open, heh. :rolleyes:
 
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HighPsiAWD said:
Ummm, that means relatively nothing. It's all in the tuning, everyone knows that. I used to run 21psi daily (did it for 6 months straight) on my Big 16G - big deal - anyone that can tune can do that.
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That is what efficiency means, man. Efficiency is how much the air heats up as it is compressed. So the more efficient a turbo is, the more boost you can run. So it means everything in terms of turbo efficiency.
 
#66 ·
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ProjectGSX said:


That is what efficiency means, man. Efficiency is how much the air heats up as it is compressed. So the more efficient a turbo is, the more boost you can run. So it means everything in terms of turbo efficiency.
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Both turbos are efficient - granted, the Big28 is more efficient because of the wheel - but let's be honest, if you can tune your car, you can safely (and efficiently; i.e., no knock, good timing, cool temps) run higher boost levels on pump gas.

I'm not trying to knock the Big28, I just don't see the point of yet another thread like this when there have been so many others regarding the same topic. Plus, I don't really like the fact that only one person (Loren) is being referenced for the Big28.

Isn't there another person that has put up good numbers on this turbo?
 
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HighPsiAWD said:
Plus, I don't really like the fact that only one person (Loren) is being referenced for the Big28.

Isn't there another person that has put up good numbers on this turbo?
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Question for you, have you seen Lorens supporting mods? He's got almost everything. Compared to us(the people who just got the Big28), Loren would probably kill us with the t-25 and his current supporting mods.

My point being, is that Its NOT all about the turbo...
 
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#69 ·
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Gixxed_Spyder said:


Question for you, have you seen Lorens supporting mods? He's got almost everything. Compared to us(the people who just got the Big28), Loren would probably kill us with the t-25 and his current supporting mods.

My point being, is that Its NOT all about the turbo...
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Yes, I've seen his mods, and it's exactly why I made this comment: "Plus, I don't really like the fact that only one person (Loren) is being referenced for the Big28."

Of course it's not all about the turbo, but the turbo is one of the biggest factors.
 
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HighPsiAWD said:
Isn't there another person that has put up good numbers on this turbo?
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depends what you consdier good #s.. are you looking for MPH or Time or Dyno #s?? etc etc..

I consider the 109mph that I ran on the big 28 pretty impressive considering the car is still untuned..
 
#71 ·
Well I just got a Big 16g over any other turbo...... for $660 + 75 for the 10 degree clip www.turbochargers.com and the +279 install kit... I sat around 3 weeks in a row and read all I could about differnt things I could do turbo wise...... Ive called all of them RRE. HRC DSMT MachV....and more and got the low down from people that know what they are talking about. Some said good things some said bad things about this turbo and that turbo... But all and all the Big 16g makes good numbers has been proven. FP big 28 has shown 11's but that was only one person the rest are in the 12-13' look around. Also I think the FP big is mostly hype and so do alot of others... Its a good turbo and all, but why wont they release the cfm on it what are they hiding? They say it doesnt matter... Blah blah..... Also when they compaired the big 16g/16g to the fp big 28 he put cams in his car when he ran the fp big 28 explains the better time. I dont know how much of it is true but I hope this helps you.
 
#72 ·
That's bunk. With the same cams and the Green turbo his fastest time is 11.53 compared to 11.82 with the Big28. I don't even have an FMIC yet and I ran a 12.93 at the track today at ~18psi. Once I add a FMIC, turn up the boost to 22 or 23psi, swap in a 1G head and some HKS cams I fully expect to be running low 12s at least. This should all happen within the next month so we shall see...
 
#75 ·
In my opinion, whether you get a B16G or B28 you can't go wrong.
 
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Discussion starter · #76 ·
hey all,

I did decided that i was gonna go with the TRE big16g...but after i saw there 18g deal for only $75 which is suppose to flow 50 more cfm i couldn't pass ti up...i'll be ordering the turbo next week.

ANdy
 
Discussion starter · #78 ·
I think it might because they see it so expensive, and believ it has teh lag of a 20g with the power of the 16g....well after looking at some numbers the 16g is suppose to flow 550cfm@15psi...the 18g flow ~605@15psi. And it's ONLY $75 more...and it's a bolt-on mitsubishi turbo. I seriously don't understand where people go and just say its a bad turbo without any experience. That's as if i just wanted to say that the FPgreen is a bad turbo and might as well get the FPred....it all depends on what your goals are.

And the people who have the 18g and who can't speak well about, probably don't have all the supporting mods and are experiencing detonation or something or other.

Andy
 
#79 ·
Actually people say its a bad turbo for many reason. You NEED a good sized clip, its not a superdesign, etc...cfm at 15 psi isn't everything, thats on miniscule point on the huge surface of a compressor map. Dif you compare maps and decide it was optimal for your engine or go....OOOhhhhhhh more cfm at 15PSI!! Better Turbo!!!
 
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