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M Power said:
You are running mid 12s according to your signature? That may be scary fast for you, but it is decently fast in my view.
Nah, I just sold an 11.5@124mph car. I've owned many muscle cars that would put the front wheels 2-3' off the ground. This Eclipse is an affordable toy for now as I just put a lot of cash down on a home. I've got friends with 700+whp supras a 500+whp 10 second DSM, a low 10 second 911 turbo, and many 9-10 second domestics. I understand what fast is.

I was trying to take the "personal perception" thing out of it and go be recongnized standards. In my understanding based on the last 16 years of drag racing, any car running 12 seconds and under is considered pretty damned fast.
 
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JayHäss said:

I was trying to take the "personal perception" thing out of it and go be recongnized standards. In my understanding based on the last 16 years of drag racing, any car running 12 seconds and under is considered pretty damned fast.
Again, it's pretty damn fast to you, decently fast in my view. Standard is in the eyes of beholder. But if you find any publication that says 12sec car is supposed to be "scary fast" and that is the standard, let me know. I will acknowledge it then.

So your friend with 700 whp Supra will tell you that mid 12 sec is "scary fast"? I doubt it. Again, this subject is only getting retarded as we go on with our different view. To some people, 70k/year is a lot of salary, to others it's merely enough to cover monthly payments. All in the eyes of beholder. zzzz
 
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Again, it's pretty damn fast to you, decently fast in my view. Standard is in the eyes of beholder.


Hold on there Tex. If there is a commonality among a majority that can be considered something of a "benchmark" and again I say in my 16 years of drag racing experience, once a street car hit the 12's it's generally considered to be "a fast car" Anything below that is gravy. That's just what I have seen over the years.

I *personally* think everything is slow after driving my buddy's 9.3@150mph street Camaro for a while. :D

So your friend with 700 whp Supra will tell you that mid 12 sec is "scary fast"?
No Al still thinks his Supra is slow. :rolleyes:

I agree this is beyond lame at this point. zzzz
 
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There was a video posted a couple weeks back with a guy that ran a 13.3 @115 and a 12.8 @ 118mph in his 03 Cobra with only a lightning pullie. He stated that he also managed to run a 12.6, and that he was a terrible driver. Any one that's goes on LS1.om or Mustangworld.com has probably seen this video. With 118 trap speed that's low 12 second pass with a good 60ft...

PS, if any of you guys are looking at car & driver for qtr mile times then your going to be mislead. Car and driver is one of the only magazines that will take a 12 second car and make it run 13s.

14.4 out of a 99 mustang GT is what they quoted, I ran a 13.8 in mine
 
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There was a video posted a couple weeks back with a guy that ran a 13.3 @115 and a 12.8 @ 118mph in his 03 Cobra with only a lightning pullie. He stated that he also managed to run a 12.6, and that he was a terrible driver. Any one that's goes on LS1.om or Mustangworld.com has probably seen this video. With 118 trap speed that's low 12 second pass with a good 60ft...

PS, if any of you guys are looking at car & driver for qtr mile times then your going to be mislead. Car and driver is one of the only magazines that will take a 12 second car and make it run 13s.

14.4 out of a 99 mustang GT is what they quoted, I ran a 13.8 in mine
 
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That's with exhaust and filter. Just mods that make it breath easier. Notice how it's still pulling when it hits the 6500limiter? i think it could have hit 400rwhp.

If you don't think 400rwhp can't get this cobra into the low 12's or even high 11's, then you don't know as much about cars as you think you do. Baseline hp was in the 360's/370rwhp. Fact is the 03 Cobra is underrated at 390crank hp. 425hp is more like it.

Another thing, look at that tq curve.
 
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5.0, I agree. New cobra is a serious contender around the block for sure. If you aren't running very low 12s or sub 12s, chances are, you will have a hard time with this improved snake.

Da*m, what is taking so long for RMS and Dinan to come up with a reliable SC for S54 engines?
 
Oh, one thing about that Dynojet graph though. I have no doubt that 03 Cobra is a strong one. But let's not forget that Dynojets give a lot higher numbers than Mustang Dyno machines. Since Mustang dyno simulates real driving condition closer than Dynojet, I would only trust Musting dyno numbers. But that's just me...
 
I've been searching the corral and LS1.com looking for Cobra Dyno charts...Most guys claim that they have 450 plus to the wheels with simple bolt ons. I'll find ya some links...
 
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I think ford finally hit the nail on the head with this new motor, but damn could they please do something about the styling, especially the out freakin dated interior.

The only problem I have is that, most mustang owners to me, are just as ignorant as most civic owners are. They they all think that their shot is the fastest land vehicle every made. Why is that? Most idiots won't know how to control this new cobra and really use it's power, cause there is a lot of it. I suspect there will be many more kill stories on this car. Just becasue daddy bought it doesn't mean you can drive it.
 
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Slightly OT

Darkstang said:

14.4 out of a 99 mustang GT is what they quoted, I ran a 13.8 in mine
Wouldnt that 99 still have the restrictive factory pieces that ford recalled because of low power production?
 
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Bullshit the new Cobras blow go to any LT1- LS1 forum and ask them there spanking the new cobras pretty easily. It seems these 11 and 12 second cobras only exist at the track.
 
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i went and checked out the 5.0 magazine. running with a K&N FIPK, bassani xpipe with cats, and catback, on slicks and skinnies it went 11.95 at 116mph. in stock form after 3 hours of no runs on the track they posted 13.05 with 110mph trap speeds burning 1st-3rd. its definately a 12 second car.
 
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Once again, you can not say that if this guy ran his '03 at so-and-so track and ran a 13.x, that it will only be a 13.x car; and vice versa with the people claiming low 12's. Different track conditions, weather, driver skill all play huge rolls.


Darkstang ran his GT to 13.8, yet at my local track I saw 3 GTs all run no better than a 14.5; that doesn't mean all Mustang GTs now can't run better than a 14.5, you can't make a basis like that. I would say that the '03 Cobra is definately a 12-second car, and a 13-second one just as easily.
 
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Bluntdogg said:
Once again, you can not say that if this guy ran his '03 at so-and-so track and ran a 13.x, that it will only be a 13.x car; and vice versa with the people claiming low 12's. Different track conditions, weather, driver skill all play huge rolls.


Darkstang ran his GT to 13.8, yet at my local track I saw 3 GTs all run no better than a 14.5; that doesn't mean all Mustang GTs now can't run better than a 14.5, you can't make a basis like that. I would say that the '03 Cobra is definately a 12-second car, and a 13-second one just as easily.

o be quite honest when I first got my stang I ran couple of 14.5 passes when it was 90 degrees. I also didn’t know much about 60fts and trap speeds back then. Now that I’ve practice, time after time I ran a consistent 13.9 @99mph with a best of 13.8. EVERY 99 and up MUSTANG does run 13s; it just requires a decent driver. I’ve seen Supras run 15s, Eclipses run 16s, and so on. You can’t blame ford for the 14.5 pass only the driver.
BTW what do stock Eclipse run???? High 14s low 15s right?? I’ve seen plenty of 16s second passes from these cars, but I’m educated enough in the drag racing scene to know other wise.
Average GT should run high 13s..

Hey Bad DSM, in 99 the Cobra’s were the cars with the defect. Many were complaining that their friend’s 99 GT was beating their 99 Cobra. Turns out the Cobras putting out a lot less hp then they were rated at. GT never had a Horsepower problem only the 99 Cobras. That’s why there is no 00 Cobra, SVT was trying to fix all the problems from 99
 
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Basically when you get right down to it any car can be fast and everyone knows this. Hell, I've seen a pinto running 11's. If you've got the money and can drive anything is possible within reason. I'm out. Just my .02:D
 
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Not to start a flaming war but until I see a time slip i'm going to have to call :bs: on the whole thing. Because with just a pulley the new 03 cobra ran a 12.2@116 mph and this car has beaten many big named cars already if you dont believe here is a post to back it up03 Cobra Videos
 
those 03 cobra vids dont work.
 
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