Potential of an NT

2 91 NTs · Aug 13, 2002

Hey guys, i've been looking for the last couple of weeks on the potential HP of an NT. I've seen some posts on crate engines with 300 and people with HP in the 2's, but i was wondering, how much hp could an NT with complete rebuild, like higher compression, ported everything, stroking, and things like that. I was thinking a non-turbo talon with 325hp would be kind of cool.

Tell me what you think.

PS. If you think i am crazy, just keep it to yourself, and i know i can get xxxhp out of a turbo, so dont say "get a turbo".

Thanks.

insaneGS · Aug 13, 2002

Anything is POssible

2 91 NTs · Aug 14, 2002

So i can get 23000 HP.... right?

faithless · Aug 14, 2002

I would probably say around 250hp at most probably less.

haskins24 · Aug 14, 2002

what kind of times could we run with that much hp?

faithless · Aug 14, 2002

I would say low 14s.

Blackboost · Aug 14, 2002

2 91 NTs said:
So i can get 23000 HP.... right?

Damn, I would love to have an engine with that amount of HP...

2 91 NTs · Aug 14, 2002

Doh, only 250?

I've seen crate engine with 300hp.

What about with like 11:1 compression, stroked, ported everything, extreme cams, better fuel delivery, big injectors, bigger valves, etc.....

I am basically asking if 300hp is possible without nos.

faithless · Aug 14, 2002

its going to be tough man. You are starting with 140hp. You get the compression up sure you`ll get high hp numbers but still no torque. I think its a really good idea and you should go through with it but I wouldnt expect anything close to 300hp. I might be wrong but I still think it going to be hard to get 300hp out of a NA 4g63 or 420a.

2 91 NTs · Aug 14, 2002

Well thanks for you help guys. I'm going to keep looking into this, and if i can get ~300hp i might do it. I have a local engine shop (Performance Clinic in Dayton) that says they use the NT 4g63 in the 3/4 midgets (?) and they have well into the 3's, he recommended 11:1 compression, with some cams ( i forget the specs)

If i did decide to stay NT, how many HP would i need to hit high 13's? 300-325?

TALONLVR · Aug 15, 2002

lafemme on this board hit like 13.5 in her NT with nitrous. your going to want to get rid of that auto for a mt though. Those autos sap a ton of horsepower believe me I used to have one.

2 91 NTs · Aug 17, 2002

Hey blackboost.

If you had an engine with 23000 hp, you'd use 1.4 gallons a second at idle. And you'd have to change your tires daily, and have ONE STIFF FRAME!

cdstalon · Aug 18, 2002

Ouch. Some of you turbo guys are brutal. I would love to see a 400 HP all motor 420A, but I don't think it will happen either. I think 275 is reasonable, with a lot of time and money.

supergoat · Aug 18, 2002

I want 180hp from my 2.0NT. That's all. I figure with intake/exhaust and cams an extra 45HP isn't too far out of reach.

This car is just my daily, but I still want it to be fun.

DSMeclipseGS · Aug 18, 2002

Hey
It;s been discussed on 2gnt.com discussion boards before. I think you can get great results with 12:1 compression, stroker kit, cams all intake and exhaust work (includes polishing, porting, etc.) and then just add some nitrous too. I'm not sure because I am not interested in that path but I know they have lots of info. Plus if you did all that, you'd be taking turbo cars out withthe same hp #'s since there wouldn't be ANY turbo lag!! Yay!!

here's the link: http://www.2gnt.com/cgi-bin/dcforum/dcboard.cgi

OH YEAH: you can get the 2.4 L 420 block and there's some nice gains too instead of stroking.

iameatingpez · Aug 19, 2002

my engine.

i have a 92 laser nt 2.0 first off id like to say, yes im buying a turbo dsm. but i need a daily driver. me and my laser were inseperable till my timing belt went. now six months later. i have money to spend on my baby. im thinkin hks cams if theyd work on my nt. i figure why not its a 4g63 still. i need a new head, why the hell not polish the damned thing. k&n fipk(already on), and will be getting borla header, 2.5 catback, random tech. cat, flowmaster 60 series muffler, and jet chip within the next 60 days. any idea how much power that would make. i am not too familiar with tuning dsm's. any help would be appreciated. i love my car way to much to let it die forever. and if its already apart why keep resisiting the impulse to be like everyone else and pour money into my broken dsm. haha sorry had to joke about that. my interior and half of accessories under the hood are new.

iameatingpez · Aug 19, 2002

incase the b.s flag starts jumpin out.

two years ago i was involved in a near fatal car crash, 20 stitches in my head and internal bleeding in two spots. i am recently getting my settlement for over 120k. almost all is for my college debts. but im buying a 1gen awd. as the weekend toy. i figured id add this cuz id yell b.s. if i read just the aforementioned statement. thank you for your time.
*nick*

Blackboost · Aug 19, 2002

Re: my engine.

iameatingpez said:
and jet chip within the next 60 days.

That's a waste of money. Jet doesn't do a thing with our ECU's...

iameatingpez · Aug 20, 2002

really? thank you. thats good to know. im glad there are still people on this site who are helpful and nice instead of bashing whatever anyone says.

Blackboost · Aug 21, 2002

iameatingpez said:
really? thank you. thats good to know. im glad there are still people on this site who are helpful and nice instead of bashing whatever anyone says.

Thanks for the compliment...

As for the bashers...
Just point them out to any of the moderators and we will deal with them...

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