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My brother-in-law always drove Chrysler minivans. He actually liked them - go figure. The first two had mitsu V6's. Every time he'd come over I'd have this trail of oil on my driveway. So I'd crawl under with the filter wrench and give the filter another half turn. This was repeated for every oil change.

The last van he owned had a Chrysler engine and it never leaked. I guess it is a Mitsu thing.
 
I love how my posts are edited in attempts to help the masses think higher of themselves. I'm only trying to help. Idiots need not apply.

There is a LARGE majority of people who have posted in this thread, with a TON of wrong information.
 
Stephen said:
I put the filter o-ring in oil first then i tighten the shit out of it with my hand...Ive never had a problema nd I always have high oil pressure...
Do you have a gauge?

What's it read at...

IDLE?

Cruise?

WOT, 3rd gear, near redline?

If you don't have a gauge, don't post things like "I have high oil pressure."
 
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Any Autometer and most other gauges will work fine, as long as they use standard oil pressure sendor sizes.

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You don't want to mount the sender directly to the block, as it has a greatly increased amount of vibration and kills sendors.

You can run both the stock and the aftermarket sensor, as I *believe* there is an extra plug somewhere on the oil housing.

The above part numbers allow you to mount the sendor off the block and probably onto a bracket or frame or some other place that smart and brilliant.

Your welcome. :)

[EDIT: This is for a mechanical gauge setup]
 
i believe the t/e/l runs 2 oil pressure senders, the galant only has one, for the lite. i used a vdo electrical sender, less problems with kinking a mechanical line, and the wires from the sender into the car are a lot smaller, therefore easier to route. placement of the gauge is also easier, because the wire will route and bend a lot easier than a hollow line. on the main sender, i used the vdo dual sender, allowing the idiot lite and the gauge to be used. instead of capping the second sender, i installed an oil temp gauge. there is no sender for dual contacts for oil temp. although the holes may be for 1/8 npt, i could only get the senders to go in a couple of turns. i dont like the senders sticking out like that, so i ran a tap father in, until the sender just started to bottom out, then i used a crush washer. i did this with the oil filter head off of the car, you cannot believe how much shavings it produced. i picked vdo because i get them for a very good price, and they have a very large selection of different gauges.
 
DSMu4ia said:
It's not a MATTER of how tight or loose it is, it backs off for a few reason.
Gimme a freakin break. The filter coming loose has EVERYTHING to do with how tight you put it on. If you put the filter on like you mean it, it doesn't come off... because the rubber seal keeps the filter in place when it's compressed. If you don't tighten the filter enough to compress the rubber seal, the filter can spin off with normal engine vibration. I'm not saying safety wire is a bad idea "just in case", but if your filter is spinning off, you've got a problem with the way you install it. It shouldn't require a safety wire tie-down to hold it on.
 
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James92TSi said:
Gimme a freakin break. The filter coming loose has EVERYTHING to do with how tight you put it on. If you put the filter on like you mean it, it doesn't come off... because the rubber seal keeps the filter in place when it's compressed. If you don't tighten the filter enough to compress the rubber seal, the filter can spin off with normal engine vibration. I'm not saying safety wire is a bad idea "just in case", but if your filter is spinning off, you've got a problem with the way you install it. It shouldn't require a safety wire tie-down to hold it on.
To stop the arguement before it begins... I have tightened the filter as much as possible WITHOUT ruining the seal on the filter AND YES I have tightened the filter too much before and ruined a perfectly good/new filter.

The problem is that with the mods on my car, I am pushing, apparenlty, a LOT of pressure and THAT is what makes the filter come loose.

Example. I used the filter wrench on the previous install of the filter to get it just that much tighter... guess what??? IT BACKED OFF!

When did it back off... after the 5th 1/4 pass of the night? Did I have ANY trouble with it before I started making passes? No.
 
James92TSi said:
Gimme a freakin break. The filter coming loose has EVERYTHING to do with how tight you put it on. If you put the filter on like you mean it, it doesn't come off... because the rubber seal keeps the filter in place when it's compressed. If you don't tighten the filter enough to compress the rubber seal, the filter can spin off with normal engine vibration. I'm not saying safety wire is a bad idea "just in case", but if your filter is spinning off, you've got a problem with the way you install it. It shouldn't require a safety wire tie-down to hold it on.
I've heard of more oil filters backing off, than your current DSMtalk.com posts divided by five. These are all guys that know wtf they are doing.

Some of THE FASTEST DSM's in the country, have filters back off.

For your sakes..

On a 90-style setup, you can tighten it as far and as hard as you want, without doing any damage. On anything but 90-style, you will eventually tighten it too much, and crush the sandwich cooler.

I can tell you this, they don't fall off because of vibration.

Recently, there has been people BLOWING out the o-rings in the oil filters, which is just as bad as having them spin off. BUT I'm sure since you are so knowledge-able you will have a fix for that too. Several different "FAST" guys, several different setups, several different oil filters, several different "fixes", nothing really works.
 
To stop the arguement before it begins...
Oh joy, message board drama! :rolleyes:
The problem is that with the mods on my car, I am pushing, apparenlty, a LOT of pressure and THAT is what makes the filter come loose.
If you're "pushing so much oil pressure" that you're blowing oil filters off, take a look at your relief valve.

I really don't want to beat this to death, but oil pressure doesn't magically turn the filter. Safety wire if you want, it's your car.
 
DSMu4ia said:
I've heard of more oil filters backing off, than your current DSMtalk.com posts divided by five. These are all guys that know wtf they are doing.
Hey, can you turn the "holier-than-thou" attitude OFF for a minute?
For your sakes..

On a 90-style setup, you can tighten it as far and as hard as you want, without doing any damage. On anything but 90-style, you will eventually tighten it too much, and crush the sandwich cooler.
Hey, no shit sherlock, I have a 92 with a 90 oil filter housing on it. I know the differences. You act like I bought my car last week and I'm playing 20 questions about "what are free mods?" Oh wait, I must not know anything, because I don't have 3 million DSMtalk posts.

I can tell you this, they don't fall off because of vibration.
Right. Must be the invisible hand then.

Several different "FAST" guys, several different setups, several different oil filters, several different "fixes", nothing really works.
If the Mitsu oil filter is causing that much of a problem for them, why don't they use a filter relocation and run a more suitable filter...

BUT I'm sure since you are so knowledge-able you will have a fix for that too.
I don't know where you got the idea that I claim to know everything. Nice ASSumption there, dick. <insert middle finger smiley here>
 
turboniam said:


Which relief valve?
Oil pressure relief valve, it's on the oil filter housing. Illustrated very well in your handy-dandy shop manual.
 
James92TSi said:
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Several different "FAST" guys, several different setups, several different oil filters, several different "fixes", nothing really works.
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If the Mitsu oil filter is causing that much of a problem for them, why don't they use a filter relocation and run a more suitable filter...

That would be a possible fix for the filters backing off.

But the quote above, was meant towards the o-rings blowing out. I haven't heard much about it in a while, so I don't know if they've found a suitable oil filter yet.

BTW: I'm done on this site for a few more months. Hope you all don't miss me too much. :D TIA.
 
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