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Well it's that time of the year again, where I'm inside most of the time planning next springs mod list. My largest or most exspensive upgrade next year will be a FMIC, so I need to make sure I get the right one:rolleyes: My mod list is at the bottom of the page for referance. I had my decision in the bag ( IRCs race core) untill venders started offering 'extrude' type intercoolers. I have read claims of them being more effective in cooling and press drop. Basicly claiming a 23.5x10x3.25 one row extruded tube design, will work better than a standard spearco 2-216 wich is larger. I will be upgrading to a 20G, but not for about another year after. If you were in my shoes, what would you go with? I'm finally getting a FMIC:D Now wich one:confused:
 
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Well Rodman those venders that claim there's is better than the other's is just that claiming. Is there solid proof of these IC on cars putting Impressive #'s down? I had a 20g on my car with the old style BR FMIC and I went 11.5 on 25psi. Many of the people I know have the same IC with the result's being very good. Now I have a different setup on the car I went to the 2-216 that you spoke of and the IC is great I think. I only got one pass at the track with new setup but it was the worst run with so many problem's ,But we won't talk about that . But my friend Nate of DSMotorsport runs the same IC as me and the car is running high ten's with that IC. So a little advice don't dump alot of money on a FMIC that you really don't know if it will perform the way it is intended. I would just stick with the IC's that are proven already like the BR, the 2-216, IRC, VP, to name a few. Just my 2 cent's. Hope I helped out. Later

Ed
 
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Close your eyes, take deep slow breaths, and repeat this over and over.

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but if you settle, do the indy street core. I also think Buschur dropped the price on his fmic set-up. Check that as it is also tried and proven too!
 
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It's very hard to beat the 90%+ efficiency of the extruded tube cores and although the 23.5x10x3.25 extruded core will most likely perform better than the 2-216 Spearco, it will also reduce the airflow to the radiator more than the 2-216 core - which should be also considered. If there's a 28x10" extruded tube core in the same price range as the bar-and-plate 2-216, I'd definitely go with the extruded tube, but I'm not sure if I'm willing to sacrifice effeiciency of the radiator for more efficient IC core and higher cost of the FMIC setup...
 
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it will also reduce the airflow to the radiator more than the 2-216 core
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This is a 'loaded' statement. Wile the Extrude type FMIC is smaller resulting in more blocked airflow to the radiator it actually flows MORE air through the fins much better than the 2-216. So I bet the 23.5x10x3.25 will flow as much air as the 2-216 to the radiator, but not sure about that one:rolleyes: Also, having a smaller more efficient core will make a better match to my B16G and be capable of handling a 20G no prob. Another advantage is that the Extrude type intercoolers are stronger, allowing one to rip down the highway behind sand trucks not worrying about rocks putting holes in the intercooler ( like I would ever do that anyway) but you can see the point here. New England is HARD on your car, durabilty is key here. I'm really considering ADFX 1G side to side FMIC, at under 1,000 shipped it seems like the best choice. Check it out
http://www.adfxracing.com/default.asp?action=product&vehicle_id=2&category_id=2
More info on the Extrude cores here
http://www.adfxracing.com/ic-info.asp?vehicle_id=1
I also like the fact of aluminum piping, it won't rust and hold heat like steel piping will. It also offers the same type of endtanks for short type piping the other venders use.
BTW, Taboo, your car looks bad ass now, looks alot like mine does:D
 
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Well, something happened and I lost my reply when trying to post it :mad: Merry Christmas to me huh? I'll just write it again...

Anyway, I was searching for the following product on this site and found zero results. Maybe no one knows about it. Spearco now offers the 3-178 core. I found this by looking for data on their site for the 2-178 because I think that's the intercooler I want, or wanted now that I found the 3-178. It's the tube and fin, extruded style. Check out the specs:

Core # 3-178: MSRP $474.00
Assembly # 3-247: MSRP $674.00
Core Dimensions: 2.87"D X 7.8"H X 20.0"L
Header Dimension: 3.5"D X 7.8"H
Flow rate: 710 CFM
http://208.55.223.137/tube_fin_intercoolers.html

So as you can see, it's the same size as the 2-178. And when you take the MSRP of $475, it's only about 100 beans more than the $370 you can get the 2-178 for. Maybe you'd be able to get it even cheaper than that MSRP. I just wanna know if the tube and fin style's performance justifies the extra loot, because this seems like a nice core. I'd like to see results or ideas though, what do you guys think?
 
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I have a feeling most venders producing FMICs for our cars will be switching to these 'new' more effic cores in a few months. I'm going to hold tight for awile and see what happens. I understand that poeple have run 10s with the older type FMICs, but this new type of intercooler has a good durability facter to it wich I like alot, plus it seems you can get away with using a smaller core with the same cooling effic.
 
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If that's the case.. then why did speaco drop the extruded tube cores from their lineup for 2003. I talked w/ Turbonetics at the PRI show & they told me that the extruded tube has been around for a long time & they actually see better gains w/ the proven bar/plate cores. The told me that the pressure drop was higher & that a bar/plate core of the same size actually cools better.
 
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Hey Ken, it's about time you jumped into this thread, I figured if I through out that last statement you would 'bite':p I'm still considering the 2-216 FMIC from you or DSM Motorsports, I'm just looking at all the options.

BTW, Ken are you making the 2-216 FMIC for DSM Motorsports? The pic on the website looks like your Race core FMIC:confused:
 
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We've done some dealings w/ Nate at DSMotorsports. He has gotten FMICs from us in the past.. but now I believe he deals mainly w/ VP. He orders his FMICs straight from Spearco already welded up. Shoot me an email or give me a call 317-716-3062 & we can discuss this further.
 
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