WHere do you guys get your tires mounted? Their are a few fwd guys on this board alone running 225 width tires on their cars. The dunlop tire I selected says it can fit a 6-8" rim, and we have 6" wide rims stock.
Local shop VERY pissed about mounting 225/50/16 on stock rims
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personally i love les shwab and americas tire company.i pull up tell them what i want and they do it.no questions asked.wierd how some of you have such problems.and as far as pepboys goes,well lets just say that the local pepboys and i have a understanding.(got some NASTY dirt on the manager)
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From a former tech III at Sears...
A 225/50/16 really should NOT be put on a 6" rim, no matter what the manufacturer says. 6 - 8 is a HUGE difference in the angle of the sidewall - from almost perfectly flush to going in a good inch. I don't care if the bead seats correctly (which I sincerely doubt) or not - that's WAY too far for the sidewall to stick out with that small of an aspect ratio. It'll roll over WAY too easily - even 205s do.
Do yourself a favor and buy some 16x7s or larger.
Now, 225/50/16s are not very hard to mount. They're wide tires, so that 50-series sidewall isn't too small. A competant tire tech shouldn't even need to use the pneumatic arm to push it down, and some regular old tire lube (not that "high performance tire" crap) is totally fine for seating the bead.
A 225/50/16 really should NOT be put on a 6" rim, no matter what the manufacturer says. 6 - 8 is a HUGE difference in the angle of the sidewall - from almost perfectly flush to going in a good inch. I don't care if the bead seats correctly (which I sincerely doubt) or not - that's WAY too far for the sidewall to stick out with that small of an aspect ratio. It'll roll over WAY too easily - even 205s do.
Do yourself a favor and buy some 16x7s or larger.
Now, 225/50/16s are not very hard to mount. They're wide tires, so that 50-series sidewall isn't too small. A competant tire tech shouldn't even need to use the pneumatic arm to push it down, and some regular old tire lube (not that "high performance tire" crap) is totally fine for seating the bead.
225's do NOT stick out that much. Look:
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they seat perfectly every time too. i dont know what that "tech" at sears is doing wrong.
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they seat perfectly every time too. i dont know what that "tech" at sears is doing wrong.
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That's a hell of a lot of buldge there.Formz TSi said:225's do NOT stick out that much. Look:
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they seat perfectly every time too. i dont know what that "tech" at sears is doing wrong.
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Well, I'm the tech. Perhaps that wasn't clear... A tech III does tires, batteries, alignments, any other steering or suspension work, starters, alternators... Our particular store has crappy salespeople (which I also used to do) and they don't sell much of the wrench-turning stuff, so I've done lots and lots of tires.Formz TSi said:
I agree that they seat quite easily. Did I not say that in my post?
However, they roll over a hell of a lot easier than they would on say, a 16"x8" and that also moves the bead and can easily lead to a blow-out.
I actually believe that picture, due to the angle, understates said bulge, but that is still more than I'd be comfortable with.PokeyTheDSM said:
*EDIT* From the Aftermarket Wheels & Tires FAQ on DSM.org
7) What's wrong with the stock wheels, and why should I consider aftermarket wheels?
Nothing is "wrong" with the stock wheels for everyday driving, and even some spirited driving, but there are three reasons to consider aftermarket wheels: 1) you want more performance, 2) you want better or more distinctive styling, and/or 3) you have money to burn. (I will keep my remarks focused on the 1st reason.
) Finally, the stock wheels are allegedly quite heavy. The stock wheels on the T/E/Ls are 6 inches (152.4mm) wide. The tires are fairly wide at 205mm or 215mm. This means that over 50mm (almost 2 inches!) of tire width at the tread must be pinched down at the rim. Structurally, since the sidewalls of the tire are angled inward, there is less ability for them to withstand additional loads from cornering forces, so they "roll over" or "mush" at the limit.
For maximum performance, I've uncovered two rules of thumb in the course of research: 1) the tread width and wheel width should be about the same, and 2) in no case should the wheel width be less than 70% of the tread width. Doing the numbers, 215mm tires are right on the borderline of the 70% limit, and 205mm tires not much better. Yikes! Since you don't want to reduce your tread width (especially down to 150mm!), you probably want to increase your wheel width.
8) Can I put wider tires on the stock wheels?
As for putting wider tires on the stock wheels, proceed with caution. While a higher performance tire will probably give a bit better performance, the wheel width will still cause mushing at the cornering limits. BTW, a magazine article a few years back did a report comparing 1) stock wheels and tires, 2) stock wheels and wider tires, and 3) wider wheels and wider tires, using a VW Scirocco. Naturally, the combination (3) did the best, but the most improvement in lateral g's happened when the wider wheels were put on, not when the wider tires were put on the stock wheels.
http://www.voicenet.com/~coughlin/dsm/twheel.htm
you said " I don't care if the bead seats correctly (which I sincerely doubt) or not"
so do you mean they'll mount easily but wont stick to the rim properly?
and do you mean OVERSTATES the buldge?
here is another angle of the same tire.
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no jokes about the stock suspenion and wheel gap or that its not completely full of air ha
so do you mean they'll mount easily but wont stick to the rim properly?
and do you mean OVERSTATES the buldge?
here is another angle of the same tire.
no jokes about the stock suspenion and wheel gap
or that its not completely full of air ha
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I assume that you've seen the bead of a tire? That entire ~3/4" bead is supposed to conform to the lip of the rim. After the tire's on, a very small little rubber seam is supposed to be visible, just barely past the lip. Mounting a 225/50 on a 6" rim, I'd be amazed of the bottom of the serial number wasn't hidden.Formz TSi said:
No, I meant understates. The angle's just about as perfect as you can get, but the lighting's a little weird. I don't imagine it's something that can be properly conveyed with a photograph.Formz TSi said:
Sealed your own doom. That looks like a truck tire. Maybe you were going for the rally car look?Formz TSi said:225's do NOT stick out that much. Look:
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they seat perfectly every time too. i dont know what that "tech" at sears is doing wrong.
I still say that it looks like crap, and it's not recommended for a reason. I can't imagine what your handling is like with those tires balooning out like that. Wait, let me guess: It handles like a dream. Why do people always have to defend what they use, even if it's not right? Must be an ego thing.
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