LS1 Z and a 97M3...went down!!!!

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) · Feb 2, 2003

I'll make this short and simple. Eric "Gopherhog" and I went out Saturday night looking for trouble. Well, we both ended up finding some. I raced a 97 M3, 5spd..... Anyway, both were from a roll on my gay ass slipping clutch. First one was from, I had it in 2nd gear and we went from 3 honks. Well, I instantly pulled about a car length and continued to keep pulling. At about 100 I had 3-4 cars on him. The second race he wanted to go from a stop but I wouldn't go do to the clutch. Well, he slowed way the hell down and I told myself that my clutch wasn't going to agree with this. Anyway, we ended up going from like at 10-15mph roll and I was in first. I punch it on 3 honks and I can feel the bastard slipping. As I pop it into second and I have some momentum, my car is a little more forgiving on the clutch and I start to pull and slowly keep creeping...at the end of that race around 70-80mph I had about 2 cars on him. I checked the stats and those should run 14 flat @ 99mph. Second race was with at 98+ LS1 Z-28 auto. I was scared shitless knowing these things can make some power and that I was already beating on a slipping clutch. Well, we raced from probably a 30mph roll, I was in 2nd up high in the RPM's. We honk 3 and we are off. To my surprise I gane and hold him off about a car back. "AMAZING" I take it up to 120mph and as I'm shutting her down I look in the review and see him starting to creep! I'm sure that if we would have kept going he would of eventually crept by me

But I did think it was pretty cool that my new turbo could do that

The Z-28 LS1's trap at 103-104mph....he was auto so I'll give him that. I'm not saying that I'm some bad ass or anything but yes, I am bosting and I am pretty damn proud of my kills. I guess we'll see what kind of numbers I lay down once the track opens. I want a FMIC, S-AFC and Injectors by summer. Hopefully that will bump me about around 110traps. "Praying" Thanks for reading my kills and any info or imput would be much appreciated!
-Ryan

Gopherhog · Feb 2, 2003

Muahahaha. See! I knew we'd find some people out to play around with. You take down an LS1 and an M3. All i get to beat on is a lousy Teg and Probe GT. Na, good times tonight

That M3 was pretty quick! I had him up till 110 or so.. Seems they are made for traveling on the autobahn. Imagine that

Good kills! I can't wait to see what you do once you turn up the boost back up from 12psi, and get that clutch in.

XiR_Eclipse · Feb 2, 2003

The rynoman, rynozola, rynorooski, the rynmeister, rynotastic. Nice kills man hopefully soon I'll be able to post kills of that calibur you deserve a tree :tree:

Darkstang · Feb 2, 2003

LS1 trap at 105-108mph

A guy in our car club had a 97 m3 and the best he could get was 14.4 @ 96mph. He said that fastest he'd heard them run stock was 14.1.

tekky_98_TSi · Feb 2, 2003

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) said:
I want a FMIC, S-AFC and Injectors by summer. Hopefully that will bump me about around 110traps. "Praying" Thanks for reading my kills and any info or imput would be much appreciated!
-Ryan

Screw the AFC, get DSMlink, take advantage of that aspect of 2G's, for tuning and monitoring, you cant beat it!

(can you tell I'm proud of my DSMlink?

)

Nice kills too

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) · Feb 2, 2003

Yea

Yea, I just look up the M3 on www.car-stats.com to find out the numbers a 97m3 can put down!
As for the LS1....yes, SS or WS6's can trap 107 stock. But like I said this was a Z-28....little slower and he had an AUTO! Here are some figures for you tested. A 02 SS manual will put down anywhere from 280-300hp to the wheels. An automatic 02 SS will put down anywhere from 260-280....see the power difference in autos. Plus the fact that this was a Z, meaning it has a little lest hp to start off with!
-Ryan
ps. Eric you had the M3 and your all stock! You must be trapping somewhere around 95+. Unless he wasn't trying

I bet you could take me!
j/k

BigBADGSX · Feb 2, 2003

Ryan: get yourself a new act2600 in that bad boy and im sure you will be roastin motha fuggas! as if you already cant!!!! GOOD RUNS MAN!!! i would be proud if i where you. Also once you get your fmic/injectors/afc....and maybe a few more modds im sure you will be very very very happy with your beast! :hail:

bobby
p.s. "you have a p.m."

Darkstang · Feb 2, 2003

Re: Yea

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) said:
Yea, I just look up the M3 on www.car-stats.com to find out the numbers a 97m3 can put down!
As for the LS1....yes, SS or WS6's can trap 107 stock. But like I said this was a Z-28....little slower and he had an AUTO! Here are some figures for you tested. A 02 SS manual will put down anywhere from 280-300hp to the wheels. An automatic 02 SS will put down anywhere from 260-280....see the power difference in autos. Plus the fact that this was a Z, meaning it has a little lest hp to start off with!
-Ryan
ps. Eric you had the M3 and your all stock! You must be trapping somewhere around 95+. Unless he wasn't trying I bet you could take me!
j/k

LS1s put down 300-320 hp, from what I've seen. Automatic trap at the same, and their really is no difference between ss and z.

PS automatics don't lose that much power, they dyno at around the same as a manual, maybe 5 hp less, but not 260 hp. that's alittle low

S8ER95Z · Feb 2, 2003

Re: Re: Yea

Darkstang said:
LS1s put down 300-320 hp, from what I've seen. Automatic trap at the same, and their really is no difference between ss and z.

PS automatics don't lose that much power, they dyno at around the same as a manual, maybe 5 hp less, but not 260 hp. that's alittle low

If your talking LT1 Autos..yeah 260 is about right.. LS1s are definately ~300rwhp... Darkstang hit it right on the nose... we are not talking about the ford AOD here...GM autos don't lose much power.

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) · Feb 3, 2003

my bad

my bad, thanks for clearing me up on that one!
-Ryan

92tealTSI · Feb 3, 2003

Good Kills.

Guys dont turn this thread into one of the countless threads that get whored up with debates over the rwhp of a stock LS1.

Darkstang · Feb 3, 2003

This is a message board right? If i said some incorrect info about a DSM you guys would correct me in a heart beat. Just trying to sound smart for a minute considering I know very little about DSMS

92tealTSI · Feb 3, 2003

=joking

I guess you make a pretty good point darkstang. Ill go crawl back into my cave now..

Die-Civic-Die · Feb 3, 2003

very Impressive kills, R.Y.N.O

autoxr37 · Feb 3, 2003

nice kills man. Question for ya, your able to run your 16G on 16psi with stock injectors without any issues? I didn't think that you could do that.

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) · Feb 3, 2003

YEP

Yea, when I ordered it from Forced Performance, I talked to Robert and he told me that was the highest and safest psi that I could run on the Big16 with my setup. I do have a 255 Walbro though! He said that I would not be running rich with the 255, and that is just an internet myth! He told me to be careful though....that when it is cold out it might start creeping and/or around 6000rpm's it might start creeping too, which in turn he said to let off the throttle. He stated that every car is different and on some cars you might not be able to run that much psi without it creeping. I guess I got lucky, because when it is warm out "which is was Saturday night, 65degrees" it will hold 16psi to redline!
-Ryan
ps. Once I get my Injectors, AFC, and FMIC I'll be running 18-20psi all day long!

Bluntdogg · Feb 3, 2003

Nice to see how well your car has progressed since being here. Nice kills, I would love to take down an LS1 (not gonna happen yet though).

DANS LS1 · Feb 6, 2003

Re: Yea

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) said:
Yea, I just look up the M3 on www.car-stats.com to find out the numbers a 97m3 can put down!
As for the LS1....yes, SS or WS6's can trap 107 stock. But like I said this was a Z-28....little slower and he had an AUTO! Here are some figures for you tested. A 02 SS manual will put down anywhere from 280-300hp to the wheels. An automatic 02 SS will put down anywhere from 260-280....see the power difference in autos. Plus the fact that this was a Z, meaning it has a little lest hp to start off with!
-Ryan
ps. Eric you had the M3 and your all stock! You must be trapping somewhere around 95+. Unless he wasn't trying I bet you could take me!
j/k

Those are good base numbers but not all fbodys dyno that especially the very strong 2002. I dont know what they put in those engines those are monsters, I was thinking of trading mine in for a 2002 TA..

Z28GSXRTSi · Feb 17, 2003

Re: Yea

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) said:
Yea, I just look up the M3 on www.car-stats.com to find out the numbers a 97m3 can put down!
As for the LS1....yes, SS or WS6's can trap 107 stock. But like I said this was a Z-28....little slower and he had an AUTO! Here are some figures for you tested. A 02 SS manual will put down anywhere from 280-300hp to the wheels. An automatic 02 SS will put down anywhere from 260-280....see the power difference in autos. Plus the fact that this was a Z, meaning it has a little lest hp to start off with!
-Ryan

To give you real facts, My LT1 (m6) stock internals with bolt ons runs consistant high 107's and sometimes breaks 108-109 depending on conditions.
We have a bone stock WS6 (a4) TA that runs consistant 105 traps, The six speeds run 107 stock.

If you would have kept racing another 20 mph at most, he would have walked right by you. I know this from experience. They just breathe too well, the components are matched from the factory and tuned very well for stock everything.

R.Y.N.O (98GSX) · Feb 17, 2003

Ya

Ya, he probably would have started catching back! I know for a fact I don't trap 107...probably not even 105mph! Possibly low 100's. The reason why I got such a jump and held it was because of dsm gearing and the fact that it was chilly out! Hopefully tuned I'll be able to get around 110mph

But then again, I don't even know if I'll take my car that far. Me and UnforgivenGSX are looking into the sunset of new cars. Him a LS1 Firebird and as for me.....SupraTT! Gotta love the stock power they are capable of!
-Ryan

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