im really pissed

imdrax · Apr 28, 2003

ok so im cruising around town with one of my friends and i hear this loud ass civic hb and he pulls up next to me in heavy traffic. i mean this car was so loud i rolled up my windows and turned up my music cause it was huting my ears(im not poking fun at the fart muffler im serious it hurt). so theres a little known road for street racing so i go in that direction and he follows we both get there and hes like" so lets run em" i was like ok. so we rev up and he takes the inisitave*(however you spell it) and launches first. i follow and he is in fron of me the whole time. when i hit top of third he has like a car and half on me and then he throws his hazards so we pull ove and i ask him what he has under there. and he says." nuthin much just straight through 3" exhaust, cams, with stock b16" i was like thinkin WTF. i couldnt believe it . i was so ashamed and made my friend swear to secrecy not to tell people we know. i dont know whats going on. and when i was running about 5ps1 i ran high 15's at the track. i dont know why my car is so slow. i know some will say because im a bad driver but im not. sure im not the greatest but that cant account for this big of a loss and such bad times. someone help.i think i have some serious problems or tuning issues that need to be adressed. sorry this got so long. i have a forum with my datalogging results if someone can take a look and help me tune cause im new. heres the link http://www.dsmtalk.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89661

sleeperstyle · Apr 28, 2003

i just read your other post. you def. have tuning issues.

autoxr37 · Apr 28, 2003

dude, B16's aren't THAT slow. They run high 14's usually. And if you let him lauch first then you giving yourself a handicap on top of it. It's no wonder you lost.

autoxr37 · Apr 28, 2003

dude, B16's aren't THAT slow. They run high 14's usually. And if you let him lauch first then your giving yourself a handicap on top of it. It's no wonder you lost.

VR666 · Apr 28, 2003

civic hatch would/could have a real big weight advantage on you.

was it an older hatch late 80's/early 90's? or what?

imdrax · Apr 29, 2003

92+ hb. also im not trying to sound cocky here but from what ive read about our cars and what my mods are compared to what mods his car hadd my car should have been able to leave that civic at the starting line. i really need to figure out how to tune this car.

Defiant · Apr 29, 2003

imdrax said:
ok so im cruising around town with one of my friends and i hear this loud ass civic hb and he pulls up next to me in heavy traffic. so theres a little known road for street racing

Pf, where did you find "heavy" traffic in Napa?

Then what, Big Ranch Road, Oak Knoll, Congress Valley, Buhman, Henry?

MegaGS · Apr 29, 2003

Did anybody else catch the 5psi thing? or is that a typo?

autoxr37 · Apr 29, 2003

MegaGS said:
Did anybody else catch the 5psi thing? or is that a typo?

Either that or he's got a turbocharged GS. Unless he's built the block he can't run more than 7 or 8 psi without blowing it up in that case.

Tough to tell with the whole GS-T04E thing

imdrax · Apr 30, 2003

i was running 5psi when i had no boost controller. it was with the same turbo im using now

Grilf · Apr 30, 2003

its sounds like he has a star kit on a GS. He can't run more than like 5 lb without an intercooler, and i didnt see one listed in his mods

imdrax · Apr 30, 2003

ok i dont what you guys are talking about. first i have a gst i did the little gs-t3/t04e thing as like a little tidbit. second i have the stock smic. and like i said before i was running 5psi originally because i had no boost controller and thats what boost it was running.

zer0bot · May 1, 2003

if he has cams in that b16 he probally shiftin' at 9k. and then with him launchin' first, not much you could do

talonkid119 · May 1, 2003

if he has cams in that b16 he probally shiftin' at 9k. and then with him launchin' first, not much you could do

With a t3/to4e turbo it shouldn't even be a race even if the civic had cams. you have some tuning problems.

mike

gs-t spyder · May 1, 2003

zer0bot said:
if he has cams in that b16 he probally shiftin' at 9k. and then with him launchin' first, not much you could do

Cams by it self dont let you shift at 9k. You have to get at least springs also.

Ace140 · May 1, 2003

gs-t spyder said:
Cams by it self dont let you shift at 9k. You have to get at least springs also.

Wrong, you dont need new springs to rev to 9k on a B16... and a B18 MAYBE, but not a B16... they have basicly a ITR head

talonkid119 · May 1, 2003

I dont know much about honda's but usually with at least the 18a motor in the integra's you can"t take them much past 8500 or they start to get valve float. Springs may help you out a little bit, retainters along with the springs, will make it a lot lighter. Usually even the amount of just 7 grams less will let you take it up to 9000 with out any valve float.

With the dsm tuned out it should have won hands down.

mike

Brett95GST · May 1, 2003

That's what you get from buying a modded car that you don't know enough about.

eclipse98 · May 2, 2003

There is something wrong with you car. My friend had a 91 gst. With a small 16g @ 18psi. He race a 92 hatch modded b-16 and was pulling car length after car length.

Hor · May 3, 2003

Three basic rules to make sure you aren't slow:

1. General maintenance. If you have a CEL, figure out what it is. If something needs to be fixed, fix it!

2. Tuning. You either have to learn how to do it, or pay somebody to do it. People can't tune your car for you over the internet. Especially if you give them one frame datalogs of your car at idle!

3. No horribly mismatched mods. Case in point, a 50 trim with a stock SMIC. You will heat soak that POS by the end of 1st gear with a turbo that size.

im really pissed

imdrax

sleeperstyle

autoxr37

autoxr37

VR666

imdrax

Defiant

MegaGS

autoxr37

imdrax

Grilf

imdrax

zer0bot

talonkid119

gs-t spyder

Ace140

talonkid119

Brett95GST

eclipse98

Hor

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