107hp and 80 tq plus for only 640 dollars on stock 1g(14b)!!!

wearurpjs · Oct 17, 2003

On the newest issue of import tuner they did a power page on the amazing 4g63. With Just 3 simple mods they were able to put 106.7 more hp and 80 tq to the wheels. Baseline test of the 1992 Mitsubishi Eclipse was 183.6 hp and 198.6 tq with simple bolt-ons such as cat-back, cone filter, and mbc (not sure of the mbc) I believe.
Baseline hp and tq= 183.6hp and 198.6tq

1) Apexi N1 Downpipe gained 36.3 hp and 30.1 tq but with boost spiking to 17 psi and also hitting fuel cut.
Eclipse hp and tq= 219.9hp and 228.7tq

2) HKS FCD gained 47.2hp and 24.1tq with boost spiking 17 psi again but leveling off at 15psi.
Eclipse hp and tq=267.1hp and 252.8tq

3) Holley 255 LPH forced induction Fuel Pump gained 23.2hp and 25.6tq.
Eclipse hp and tq=290.3hp and 278.4tq!!!

With just these 3 parts the 1g Eclipse Dynoed close to 300hp and 280tq and again for a under 300 hp to the wheels with the stock 14b turbo.. aint the 4g63 amazing! :rudolph:

mnbv · Oct 17, 2003

thats cool. Did they run it at all yet?

wearurpjs · Oct 17, 2003

nope i believe not..

brryder · Oct 17, 2003

I dont know how these people (import tuner) have the courage to publish these bullsh*t. The 14b will never make 295hp on 17lbs. I mean 300hp is a low-13 high-12 1/4 mile. Luckly for them i dont have my flag.

91eclipsegsx16boy · Oct 17, 2003

Ya, their numbers seem completely arbitrary to me, lol.

-aaron

kris · Oct 17, 2003

The 14b will never make 295hp on 17lbs

Uh, I think it did. They didn't pull those numbers out of thin air. Now they did get some crazy high numbers out of each of their mods, but unless someone shows that their dyno is inaccurate, I'll beleive it.

I read that article and it amazes me that honda guys still pay 10 times as much for the same type of gains. The magazine could have done more for less too.

turbo_boy69 · Oct 17, 2003

HKS FCD...48 hp...

greenstreak · Oct 17, 2003

FCD? I would love to believe that our motor responds that well, but I don't.

jamGSX · Oct 17, 2003

greenstreak said:
FCD? I would love to believe that our motor responds that well, but I don't.

LOL no joke....

91eclipsegsx16boy · Oct 17, 2003

kris said:
Uh, I think it did. They didn't pull those numbers out of thin air.

Look at Phil Beers numbers and realize he's about the best you can do on 14b (other then reitman's 11.8 with more mods). Keep in mind he dynos @~20psi and 116.

Also for reference take a look at Hidley's (~260whp) and his 14b goes 12.8 on pump gas.

No way in hell 17 to 15psi on 14b is going to put down 290whp.

Import Tuners numbers always seemed more of engine dyno then chassis dyno numbers to me.

-aaron

Stephen · Oct 18, 2003

Well I put a K&n on my laser and I sure aint getting over 200hp

cbilmer · Oct 18, 2003

Those numbers are a little fishy for my liking... I only wish it were that easy. 600 bucks for 107hp!! But it just isn't happening in my eyes.

Eighty9tsi · Oct 18, 2003

even 1000 dollars for 107 hp is insane from base stock.

jamGSX · Oct 18, 2003

Im just pissed off cause more ricers are going to be looking for 1g talons when i want one! thus the demand is up and that is gay

verserv · Oct 19, 2003

Who in the holy horse shit does a Fuel Cut Defender pull of 47+ hp to the wheels?????????

I got fuel cut on my 2g, so if I buy that HKS hick-a-ma-dooey can I add almost 50hp?

Damn that would get me to well over 300hp at the wheels

Or I could stuff a taco in my tail pipe and see if my car gains 70whp from Super Bean Bruttiro Powas!!!!!

SDL Racer · Oct 19, 2003

300 HP on stock fuel injectors???

300 HP on stock fuel rail, fpr, lines???

What fuel pressure were they running? 90 psi!!!

How soon after the dyno did they melt a piston?

I ran a 13.2 on my 14b but with 550cc injectors, ugraded fuel lines, afpr, 2g MAS, AFC and 3" turbo back and that only put out 256 HP. I've seen a 14b do a low 12 on a built motor and head, but never with 3 simple bolt-ons with a stock motor.

This must have been a pre-modded motor solely for the glory of advertisement.

NOMIEZVR4 · Oct 19, 2003

where the hell did they get those damn numbers from?? where's the b.s. flag??

roadpie4u · Oct 19, 2003

That's some serious BS.

The 1g rocks, as does the 14b... but...no... not 300hp to the wheels with 3 mods.

Speaking... if they were running a *stock* car, theyd need to put a K&N onto it, and a catback, MBC, gauges etc. which were not listed in those 3 mods- Also...

Stock flywheel 195hp/200tq -15% drivetrain = 165hp/170tq to the wheels

Their baseline hp and tq= 183.6hp and 198.6tq (still assuming the 15% losses) to the wheels

That means their car was making 216hp/234tq off the flywheel. The 14b has enough top end to get more HP and more TQ when modded... but you cant get 30tq more then stock with no other mods, so that car couldnt have been stock...

GSXguy · Oct 19, 2003

kinda strikes me as criminal that magazines are publishing this BS.

170MPH-RX7 · Oct 20, 2003

i would

i would love to know how a FCD adds power without using a boost controller.

107hp and 80 tq plus for only 640 dollars on stock 1g(14b)!!!

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wearurpjs

brryder

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kris

turbo_boy69

greenstreak

jamGSX

91eclipsegsx16boy

Stephen

cbilmer

Eighty9tsi

jamGSX

verserv

SDL Racer

NOMIEZVR4

roadpie4u

GSXguy

170MPH-RX7

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